Why I no longer believe in evolution
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Calamity Jane
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Riff, that is one of the scariest fucking avs i have ever seen. Can I blame that on Chik too?
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Holy Shit! You win!
Your av is officially more frightening than Dilly's Flaming Cock.
And the cartoon is great, but as soon as I came back I forgot it when I looked at your av.
Warn a girl, huh?!?!?!
(Or do you just need some Visine?)
[edited because riff scares me into mispellings]
Your av is officially more frightening than Dilly's Flaming Cock.
And the cartoon is great, but as soon as I came back I forgot it when I looked at your av.
Warn a girl, huh?!?!?!
(Or do you just need some Visine?)
[edited because riff scares me into mispellings]
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Calamity Jane
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GreenEyedGirl said:
Hijack alert
I was heading home from my company christmas party this year, pleasantly stoned and slightly drunk... and i stopped at the gas station for munchies...
when i walked in, the town cop (yes, there really is only one) was in there... he looked at me, at my munchies (a heath bar, beef jerky, ho ho's, and a chocolate milk) and then walked over to the medicine aisle, grabbed a bottle of visine, added it to my purchases, and told me to drive straight home. I nearly died laughing.
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No Riff! NO!
Dammit, Chick publications warped another impressionable mind!
or to quote the Chickmeister directly: HAW HAW!
Dammit, Chick publications warped another impressionable mind!
or to quote the Chickmeister directly: HAW HAW!
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Sillyman said:
Sure, how about the part about protons, neutrons, electrons, and gluons? Now, I haven't had chemistry in four years, so if I'm wrong correct me... The kid says the following:
"We know that the electrons of the atom whirl around the nucleus of the atom billions of times every millionth of a second... and that the nucleus of the atom consists of particles called neutrons and protons. Neutrons have no electrical charge and are therefore neutral!" (great deduction, Sherlock
) "BUT Protons have positive charges. One law of electricity is: LIKE CHARGES REPEL EACH OTHER! Since all the protons in the nucleus are positively charged, they should repel each other and scatter into space."I'm not sure where gluons fit into this, but if, like the neutrons in the nucleus, they have no electrical charge, then the electrons serve as the particles that keep the protons from flying "into space." Gina 1, Jesus Freak 0.
The chart of "human evolution" the kid provides is obviously shit. I'm sure the people found a chart by some nut whose work was completely bogus and therefore rejected by the scientific community. He just happened to provide them with the "proof" they needed to get the science teacher all sweaty.
Furthermore, the whole petrified trees found "going through many of the layers" is not such an anomaly if you think about it. Perhaps they were knocked over in a storm and the rock just built up around them. There is no way a tree could pierce through layers of solid rock unless it was hurled at great speeds from a great distance, anyway. I'm not sure how to answer his "point" about their being upside down and going through "millions of years worth of rock," but I'm sure he's just twisted words and concepts to suit his own purpose.
The fact that these crazy bastards have depicted those who believe in evolution as Christian-blood-thirsty bigots who are quick to shout at and judge those who hold different views disgusts me. These things actually teach people to twist people's words and use anti-logic. They're teaching them to be stupid. I feel sorry for anyone who reads that drivel and thinks, "Yeah, man! I finally see the light!"
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Wow! That is exactly how my science teacher was! Or, to put it another way, he actually gave the Christian students protesting the teaching of evolution two entire class periods devoted to a presentation they were allowed to make to discuss the theory of creatitionism. Since the topic of evolution covered two days of class too, both parties got equal time.
No one wanted to hear my theory of spontaneous groovin'. I was robbed.
I noticed a distinct lack of dinosaurs in this debate.
No one wanted to hear my theory of spontaneous groovin'. I was robbed.
I noticed a distinct lack of dinosaurs in this debate.
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Why is Pekin man carrying his willy? Were they once detachable?
That would be handy. "Love I'm away this weekend, keep your self happy with this." And she'd know you weren't screwing around.
That would be handy. "Love I'm away this weekend, keep your self happy with this." And she'd know you weren't screwing around.
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naudiz said:
I noticed that well myself.
Chick does use a lot of anti-logic and they do twist shit around. They make non Christians look stupid, bigoted, and hateful. Naturally there is nothing hateful about a bratty nine year old getting hit by a car and going to Hell. God is love, after all.
Seriously, has anyone ever ever ever been arrested or had any kind of negative consequences result from praying in school? I know they had open lead prayer at mandatory attendance pep rallies when I was in high school.
If we have to give equal time with creationism, what about other world creation stories?
Proof of Evolution in Action!
When I was younger, my dad and I did a lot of hard rock gold mining. I've spent quite a lot of time underground, not in caves that were thousands of years old, but rather in mine tunnels that were 100 years old, tops. I used to trip on the eyeless albino crickets that I used to find underground. Their ancestors had entered the mine as normal crickets, but after many generations below the surface they lost the need for color and sensory organs to detect color. But I have even plainer evidence of evolution. I can show that humans are, right now, on the road to becoming two entirely separate species.
Consider the following: What is the definition of a 'species'? A species is a separate population of unique appearance that does not breed with others outside of it's own species. Now, what might be the two human populations that are at this very moment diverging from one another? The tall and the short? Hah! The black and the white? Not even! The smart and the dumb? Get real! The two human populations that do not interbreed and are, each generation, becoming less and less alike are the Good Looking People and the Ugly People! Think about this for a second. Sit in a public place, anywhere in the world, and observe. See the ugly kid. When called, he runs to the ugly parents. But they're not quite as ugly as the kid. This pattern will reinforce itself generation after generation until the Good Looking People and the Ugly People will become truly separate and unique populations.
Sure, Julia Roberts married Lyle Lovett. There will always be exceptions, but when you look at the wedding announcements in the paper, the pattern emerges. It's a real trend. It's happening now. It's hard to deny.
Just an observation.
When I was younger, my dad and I did a lot of hard rock gold mining. I've spent quite a lot of time underground, not in caves that were thousands of years old, but rather in mine tunnels that were 100 years old, tops. I used to trip on the eyeless albino crickets that I used to find underground. Their ancestors had entered the mine as normal crickets, but after many generations below the surface they lost the need for color and sensory organs to detect color. But I have even plainer evidence of evolution. I can show that humans are, right now, on the road to becoming two entirely separate species.
Consider the following: What is the definition of a 'species'? A species is a separate population of unique appearance that does not breed with others outside of it's own species. Now, what might be the two human populations that are at this very moment diverging from one another? The tall and the short? Hah! The black and the white? Not even! The smart and the dumb? Get real! The two human populations that do not interbreed and are, each generation, becoming less and less alike are the Good Looking People and the Ugly People! Think about this for a second. Sit in a public place, anywhere in the world, and observe. See the ugly kid. When called, he runs to the ugly parents. But they're not quite as ugly as the kid. This pattern will reinforce itself generation after generation until the Good Looking People and the Ugly People will become truly separate and unique populations.
Sure, Julia Roberts married Lyle Lovett. There will always be exceptions, but when you look at the wedding announcements in the paper, the pattern emerges. It's a real trend. It's happening now. It's hard to deny.
Just an observation.
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Ishmael said:
It makes you talk funny!
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Ishmael said:
What's the problem with Helium? 2 neutrons, 2 protons, 2 electrons: net charge=0
Besides which, it's the "strong nuclear force" which binds nuclei together. Operative at distances of less than 2x10 to the -15th meters, it dominates the repulsive Coulomb force and binds the nucleus together.
Doubt it's existence? Argue with victims of Hiroshima or Nagasaki. They have first-hand experience in just how much energy is present to be released by the "strong nuclear force", which is the operative principle in fission bombs.
Or.. argue with me. I have first-hand experience with just how much energy is available there, via the controlled fission that runs nuclear plants. Having been a submarine reactor operator, I think I can attest to the fact that there's plenty of energy stored up in the strong nuclear force, and that the cartoon's bullshit example about what holds atoms together is just that: total, complete and utter bullshit.
There's nothing like a little real-world engineering to put the lie to a bunch of people writing checks with their mouths that their asses can't cash.
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I have read a couple of Chick articles and found them so damned ridiculous I had a hard time believing they were not pranking people. I especially like the one about Dungeons and Dragons gaming and how the books are really grimoirs of Satan that give gamers evil powers to do the devil's work here on Earth. Luuuuuv that one.
I really think these people should be eliminated from mankind. Stop them from spreading genes.
I really think these people should be eliminated from mankind. Stop them from spreading genes.
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Good Gracious!
A Flick And A Kiss Fer YOU, riff
A Flick And A Kiss Fer YOU, riff
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paphian said:
What's the problem with Helium? 2 neutrons, 2 protons, 2 electrons: net charge=0
Besides which, it's the "strong nuclear force" which binds nuclei together. Operative at distances of less than 2x10 to the -15th meters, it dominates the repulsive Coulomb force and binds the nucleus together.
Doubt it's existence? Argue with victims of Hiroshima or Nagasaki. They have first-hand experience in just how much energy is present to be released by the "strong nuclear force", which is the operative principle in fission bombs.
Or.. argue with me. I have first-hand experience with just how much energy is available there, via the controlled fission that runs nuclear plants. Having been a submarine reactor operator, I think I can attest to the fact that there's plenty of energy stored up in the strong nuclear force, and that the cartoon's bullshit example about what holds atoms together is just that: total, complete and utter bullshit.
There's nothing like a little real-world engineering to put the lie to a bunch of people writing checks with their mouths that their asses can't cash.
It makes you talk funny!!!!!!!!!!!!! You wanker!
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I've heard every one of these arguments, and any junior scientist with a bunsen burner can easily point out where the Creationists have gotten information wrong, misrepresented and misunderstood everything from the definition of "theory" to what color underwear Darwin wore (blue), and basically break every rule about critical thought Aristolte ever came up with.
It's just sad that kids who only get their classical music from car commercials and art references from Ninja Turtles are now going to be handed the latest edition of Cretin Comics and told that they're reading Chrisitan "Science".
It's just like smoking, get them while they're young...
It's just sad that kids who only get their classical music from car commercials and art references from Ninja Turtles are now going to be handed the latest edition of Cretin Comics and told that they're reading Chrisitan "Science".
It's just like smoking, get them while they're young...
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Of all the theories science has put forward in the last 2000 years, inlcuding the theory of gravity, few have been substantiated more than the Theory of Evolution and Natural Selection. Most Creationists confuse the word "theory" and "hypothesis". A "theory" doesn't mean "pretty good guess". It's a scientific safeguard. The idea that we breathe oxygen is a "theory".
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