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Why have Republicans stopped bragging about the stock market?

HisArpy said:
Yes.

Some people are taking it in the shorts, others are selling short. Guess which ones are making the money.

As a note bene, I don't do that. I'm not astute enough to gauge the market and know which stocks are going to fall and by how much. However, I sold my last ETF on a bump the other day. Which stopped the blood loss and gave me a bit more cap gains in my portfolio. When the market stabilizes, I'll buy back in again to the same ETF's when their prices are at or near the bottom. IIRC, my best ETF has something like a 19% average return over 10 years with moderate risk. That's a good investment in my opinion.
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Bezos is sitting pretty right about now. Didn't he sell off 2.8 billion in stock about 3 weeks ago? But i don't know how much prettier it gets than 110 billion. :D
I hear ya, i'm not savvy enough either, but high risk = high return, amirite? ;)
 
doowdniw said:
"Edificate"? Is that even a word? Edify -yes. Educate = yes. Edificate - not so sure, or at least Webster doesn't think so.
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dudly, at one time the word "ain't" wasn't a word according to Websters.

Guess what happened next...
 
Carnal_Flower said:
Dow had its worst week since the Recession, that's MAGA
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Trump's first crisis that's not of his own making, and the results are not encouraging.

New York Times op-ed summed it up nicely today....
the Trumpian response to crisis is completely self-centered, entirely focused on making Trump look good rather than protecting America. If the facts don’t make Trump look good, he and his allies attack the messengers, blaming the news media and the Democrats — while trying to prevent scientists from keeping us informed. And in choosing people to deal with a real crisis, Trump prizes loyalty rather than competence.
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SusanHaack said:
I hear ya, i'm not savvy enough either, but high risk = high return, amirite? ;)
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Not always. Morningstar gives risk/return ratings and other critical info. You can sign up (for a fee) and browse if you want. I'm a cheap bastard so in the beginning I surfed the interwebs and followed "similar investments you might be interested in" links. Most investments will have some kind of information and most usually provide the Morningstar ratings. Plus a few more of those "similar investments you might be interested in" links.

I did try recently to start a conversation in the lounge on investing ideas, but no one seemed all that interested. Probably because there weren't any "hot stock tips" or recipes for "easy money". Instead the troll showed up and the thread died.

For basic information, every investor should do a couple of things. READ READ READ and learn. They should also do a portfolio diversification analysis. You can do a search for those, most of the big trading houses give that stuff away for free because it gets them clients, and take the quiz. It's all based on your personal investing ideas, age, income, and so on.

As for the reading part, the more you know the better investor you become. When I first started investing I didn't know squat about ETF's, but I learned and then invested some of my portfolio funds in them. My personal diversification analysis suggests that type of investment and I went up to the recommended percentages for my risk tolerance after searching for an investment that matched my goals and risk/return comfort level.

Once you have enough information about what you want to invest in, then you can look for investments that match the categories in the diversification results. Those will be spelled out as things like (for example ONLY) 40% in Large Cap funds/stocks; 30% in Mid Cap funds/stocks; 15% in Bonds; 15% cash, etc. Do a search for "large cap mutual funds" and then visit the links in the results. Somewhere on the link page should be a Morningstar rating for both "risk" and "return", plus other links. Keep searching and reading and book mark those that interest you. Watch them on a weekly basis (NEVER daily) to see how they're performing and if the current performance matches their historic performance.

When you find the ones that suit you, invest to the percentages suggested in your analysis and you're suddenly "diversified". Which means that when the market goes up, you make money. When it goes down, at best you still make money. At worst you don't lose money, or not as much.

Most brokerages will allow you to open an account with as little as $100. There are a LOT of mutual funds that will let you invest with as little as $1. Yes that's pretty small but the largest Redwoods and Sequoia's grow from little tiny seeds. Your investments can do the same thing given enough time even when you start small. (Yecht, I sound like a commercial/shill saying that.)


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I'm still learning. For instance, the knowledge of WHEN to buy/sell only comes from doing it at the wrong time. Following other advice as to "how to minimize costs" can often lead one astray. I held on to 1 ETF because of that 'advice" when I should have sold it a month ago. I lost about $150 overall because I followed the advice to hold it to minimize the fees for "active trading". I should have just sold it when I thought I should have and paid the $35 trading fee. If I'd done that, I'd have kept the cap gains I lost in the downturn. Live and learn.
 
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HisArpy said:
Ok dudly, give us your reason why the market tanked. Let's hear how you spin the fact that <.01% (less than 1 tenth of 1 percent) of the global population being sick can cause a global financial catastrophe. We're all ears (noses, teeth, scales, tails, and firey breath too) waiting on your heretofore unexhibited financial genius and expertise to edificate us.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, shit, you're not! You really think your porn board proclamations are explaining the market drop. Unbelievable!

I guess that is what happens when your restrict your news sources to a partisan echo chamber. Meanwhile, actual market analysts are looking at the CoronaVirus supply chain impacts in China, where quarantine measures were applied during the past several weeks, and extrapolating them to nations that are even less prepared to handle a major health crisis.

Meanwhile, you are jacking off on the porn board with a theory about Bernie Sanders causing the sell-off. I didn't believe you actually missed the whole thing about social disruption due to quarantine measures, but, like your cult leader, you are obviously living in an alternate reality.
 
coati said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, shit, you're not! You really think your porn board proclamations are explaining the market drop. Unbelievable!

I guess that is what happens when your restrict your news sources to a partisan echo chamber. Meanwhile, actual market analysts are looking at the CoronaVirus supply chain impacts in China, where quarantine measures were applied during the past several weeks, and extrapolating them to nations that are even less prepared to handle a major health crisis.

Meanwhile, you are jacking off on the porn board with a theory about Bernie Sanders causing the sell-off. I didn't believe you actually missed the whole thing about social disruption due to quarantine measures, but, like your cult leader, you are obviously living in an alternate reality.
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As a working hypothesis, it accounts for all the factors.

Your explanation however, fails to account for how <1 tenth of 1% of the population can cause total "social disruption".
 
HisArpy said:
Not always. Morningstar gives risk/return ratings and other critical info. You can sign up (for a fee) and browse if you want. I'm a cheap bastard so in the beginning I surfed the interwebs and followed "similar investments you might be interested in" links. Most investments will have some kind of information and most usually provide the Morningstar ratings. Plus a few more of those "similar investments you might be interested in" links.

I did try recently to start a conversation in the lounge on investing ideas, but no one seemed all that interested. Probably because there weren't any "hot stock tips" or recipes for "easy money". Instead the troll showed up and the thread died.

For basic information, every investor should do a couple of things. READ READ READ and learn. They should also do a portfolio diversification analysis. You can do a search for those, most of the big trading houses give that stuff away for free because it gets them clients, and take the quiz. It's all based on your personal investing ideas, age, income, and so on.

As for the reading part, the more you know the better investor you become. When I first started investing I didn't know squat about ETF's, but I learned and then invested some of my portfolio funds in them. My personal diversification analysis suggests that type of investment and I went up to the recommended percentages for my risk tolerance after searching for an investment that matched my goals and risk/return comfort level.

Once you have enough information about what you want to invest in, then you can look for investments that match the categories in the diversification results. Those will be spelled out as things like (for example ONLY) 40% in Large Cap funds/stocks; 30% in Mid Cap funds/stocks; 15% in Bonds; 15% cash, etc. Do a search for "large cap mutual funds" and then visit the links in the results. Somewhere on the link page should be a Morningstar rating for both "risk" and "return", plus other links. Keep searching and reading and book mark those that interest you. Watch them on a weekly basis (NEVER daily) to see how they're performing and if the current performance matches their historic performance.

When you find the ones that suit you, invest to the percentages suggested in your analysis and you're suddenly "diversified". Which means that when the market goes up, you make money. When it goes down, at best you still make money. At worst you don't lose money, or not as much.

Most brokerages will allow you to open an account with as little as $100. There are a LOT of mutual funds that will let you invest with as little as $1. Yes that's pretty small but the largest Redwoods and Sequoia's grow from little tiny seeds. Your investments can do the same thing given enough time even when you start small. (Yecht, I sound like a commercial/shill saying that.)


*******

Edited to add:


I'm still learning. For instance, the knowledge of WHEN to buy/sell only comes from doing it at the wrong time. Following other advice as to "how to minimize costs" can often lead one astray. I held on to 1 ETF because of that 'advice" when I should have sold it a month ago. I lost about $150 overall because I followed the advice to hold it to minimize the fees for "active trading". I should have just sold it when I thought I should have and paid the $35 trading fee. If I'd done that, I'd have kept the cap gains I lost in the downturn. Live and learn.
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I'm just starting to learn and i love it. Thanks for the advice, i'll take it to heart, accordingly.
Been looking into penny stocks, too. Again higher risk....
 
SusanHaack said:
I'm just starting to learn and i love it. Thanks for the advice, i'll take it to heart, accordingly.
Been looking into penny stocks, too. Again higher risk....
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IMO, Penny Stocks are the modern day game of "3 card Monte".
 
Also, flat out lying to the public.

And oh yeah, there's that new WB report about how Alex Azar sent in people without PPG to deal with the quarantined patients. So, possibly being the source to spread it far and wide in the US. MAGA!


RobDownSouth said:
Trump's first crisis that's not of his own making, and the results are not encouraging.

New York Times op-ed summed it up nicely today....
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LOL

The Orange Genius is so incompetent. The markets wouldn't be responding so badly if he weren't such a fool. They're not only reacting to virus fears but to the total panic emanating from Trump. He's floundering, lying, pretending. He's totally incapable of conveying assurance. Hilarious since he has made the "stock market" his primary indicator of his "great economy." Dummy is making the whole situation worse.
 
The markets, which deplore uncertainty above all else, don’t know if they can believe China or the Trump administration. Trump has muzzled the health experts. I would not be surprised to see Dr. Fauci get fired for telling an uncomfortable truth in the future.
 
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