Why do you think the vanilla world gets wiggy with bdsm?

[esclave_PP]

Okay we always hear about big bad bdsm in the news or see it depicted pitfully on TV or in movies. Why do you A/all think the vanilla world gets their undies in bunchies about Bdsm and what people do with it? It isn't like there aren't straight vanilla murderers....

Do you think it is because
1) What is offensive to one group isn't offensive to another?
2) Because they are just plain scared?
3) Because they are narrow minded?
4) Because they feel threatened by the mere mention or practice of bdsm in their little community?
5) Misperceptions of bdsm in the media?

Would love to hear what Y/your opinions are -- and what your theories are...all this girl knows is she sure gets tired of it...lol.

 

[Netzach]

The people who wig out over SM wig out over anything that's different from their norms.

I choose not to associate with them.

The majority of the "vanilla" people I *do* associate with are not these clueless, tightly wound schmucks, they just don't happen to have the same appreciation for painplay that I do.

I don't feel more enlightened yet.

 

[esclave_PP]

right on Netzach! Anyone else?

 

[James G 5]

I say we just need to kill off about 80% of the human population and sort out all the shitheads & judgers
Line them up & shoot them down

 

[Krinaia]

Just poked my head in because I was intrigued by the use of the word "wiggy". I'm not really out in the open about my bdsm desires/lifestyles so I'm not sure of people's reactions as it isn't a subject that comes up much in polite conversation. I will, however, say that my close vanilla friends who know of my fetishes ... don't think it's anything weird or abnormal. They usually act as though it's not all that far out of the mainstream. I suspect that this attitude sometimes comes from jealousy that they themselves are so unkinky in comparison.

 

[esclave_PP]

This girl agrees completely! Either jealousy or crankiness at their own inhibitions? Master actually came up with a great analogy, He said, what if someone wrote a racist erotic story, how many of us would be offended....? He always does that...but it is a good point. What is offensive to one group isn't to another. BUT, does this make it right for the group that finds it offensive to make it so difficult for the group that doesn't? Now at least in this girl's mind BDSM is not the same obviously as racism...and can see the validity of the argument... Loved your new pics btw, James very nice!

 

[Krinaia]

I say we just need to kill off about 80% of the human population and sort out all the shitheads & judgers
Line them up & shoot them down

Not exactly the most tolerant view on the world. Though I will agree that too often those most profusely repopulating the world aren't the ones whose genes I would truly care to see being passed on (remembers with distaste a certain ex-roommate now refered to as "the white trash whore" and shudders). SO you might say I'm more for disallowing that 80% to reproduce than to outright kill them.

 

[Skitten]

Because the vanilla community do not want to be open to what they call as different. Everyone should be like a cookie cutter, nothing out of the norm. And never opening up the possibility of differences in people. We have friends who just do not want to understand and just think it is not right. And they do have a right to their opinion but what is right? It is everyones choice of how they live their lives I chose to be more free. They chose to just do what others say is normal. And they are scared to actually listening and learning about any thing new or different. They just don't want to be open to change and believe that BDSM is wrong and their is no way in changing their minds.

lady skitten

 

[Desdemona]

I decided a while back that I didn't care what other people thought about my choices. That may not be 100% true but I honestly don't care whether or not anyone knows or approves of my kinks. So, that said, I don't much care what they think about BDSM in general as long as they leave us alone.

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[esclave_PP]

Yes I agree des, very much. I personally don't care what others think of my choices either. Just get tired of seeing things like on CSI when the sub kills the Master's wife because she thought that would please him..... I mean, come on!

 

[Madame Manga]

I don't get wiggy with it, if you mean that I condemn BDSM relationships out of hand without knowing the particulars. But there are two major obstacles in the way for most people who run across unfamiliar lifestyle practices.

One, they aren't inclined to ask about the genuine details of someone else's private life (especially when they almost always equate BDSM with specifically sexual kinks) and so they will rely on their own assumptions and information or misinformation. When I needed to know more about some ideas that I do not subscribe to, I came here to get it from the horse's mouth, but I think I am an exception.

Two, some aspects of some BDSM practices are distinguishable from criminal abuse only by the element of consent, and in legal reality, sometimes not even then. If a man whips, cuts or physically confines his wife or girlfriend, he can go to jail for it no matter what she says. Prosecution is up to the district attorney, not the "victim". Even if a man only accepts a woman's service as her master in BDSM terms, he is liable to be despised as a Neanderthal throwback, at the very least. I cannot explain what I have learned about BDSM to most of my feminist-identified friends; it doesn't accord with their value systems, and so they dismiss it out of hand.

MM

 

[MrChips]

Well personaly I don't rust anyone that's not wierd <BG> I figure they are hidding something <s>

I really haven't hit the wiggy area but then most the ppl I know are open minded.

 

[James G 5]

Loved your new pics btw, James very nice!

Which ones?
LOL

 

[James G 5]

Not exactly the most tolerant view on the world. Though I will agree that too often those most profusely repopulating the world aren't the ones whose genes I would truly care to see being passed on (remembers with distaste a certain ex-roommate now refered to as "the white trash whore" and shudders). SO you might say I'm more for disallowing that 80% to reproduce than to outright kill them.

MUCH easier to just put them out of our misery than to sterilize them all

 

[l8texluver]

People tend to fear what they do not understand.

 

[MasterNico]

I say we just need to kill off about 80% of the human population and sort out all the shitheads & judgers
Line them up & shoot them down

Damn James, have I told you I love you lately? BTW, I got the xanax refilled, come by let's get you medicated again soon, huh?

 

[Tx girl]

People are narrow minded. And sadly the facts are some/most aren't really open to different things. Even if they know someone who may be part of the bdsm world, they still aren't open to learn. Much less try and understand it or why someone may want to be a part of it. But in the end its up to the person who is in the bdsm world to just be happy about it.

 

[Never]

Vanillas are so intolerant and close-minded.

If only they were like wonderful BDSMers. I mean, people in BDSM are always tolerant, always open-minded, never pre-judge people, never try to cram others into their narrow view of humanity, and certainly never think others are wrong because they’re doing something differently.

And they excrete strawberry yogurt. Can’t forget the strawberry yogurt.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Posted by mwsb in her thread mwbs' thought of the day...

Nothing James, when I first got to lit I thought I'd ask for critique of the poems on the poetry discussion board, but little did I realize how closed minded folks can be hence the why do vanilla folk get so wiggy post . Not even sure why they came here other than to harrass me. Oh well Pity. Killer muffin please leave me be.

This current thread is a passive/aggressive attempt and a poor one at best.

So-called vanilla people are no different than anyone else. They have their predjudices and biases, just like the rest of the world. All people are colored by differences, some are more tolerant and more astute than others are.

And that is all there is to that.

Never said it better than I did.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Vanillas are so intolerant and close-minded.

If only they were like wonderful BDSMers. I mean, people in BDSM are always tolerant, always open-minded, never pre-judge people, never try to cram others into their narrow view of humanity, and certainly never think others are wrong because they’re doing something differently.

And they excrete strawberry yogurt. Can’t forget the strawberry yogurt.

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[catalina_francisco]

 

[A Desert Rose]

backatcha Catalina.... ;-)

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[catalina_francisco]

backatcha Catalina.... ;-)

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[Desdemona]

ADR and Catalina, you two are SICK. LOL