Why do you hate Sarah Palin?

[WriterDom]

Be honest.

Poll to cum.

 

[ShyGuy68]

I won't say I hate her, but I don't like that she's so narrowminded

 

[the_mgp]

vomit

 

[WriterDom]

I don't get how politics relates to BDSM.. except maybe for that petition I signed over on the Talk forum.

Yeah, but read the threads here and see how many relate to bdsm. Almost none.

 

[the_mgp]

Meh.. I still reckon this place could do with a politics forum.

 

[CutieMouse]

Because even after 5 kids she looks better than you do

Does not compute.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

I won't say I hate her, but I do have a strong urge to wash my mouth out after hearing her speak the last couple of weeks. I gave as my reason that she's stupid, and I'll back that up with the plethora of easily proven outright lies that she's tried to put over on us during and since the convention. Everyone knows politicians lie; that's not the problem. The problem I have with her is that she tells lies that (1) IMO do not advance her and McCain's campaign to any significant degree, and (2) are easily shown to be blatantly and knowingly false (unless she's pathological, in which case she should not be holding any public office, let alone be a potential one 70-year-old's weak heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world). To tell a marginal untruth that enhances either herself, McCain or the campaign is SOP for a politician, and expected. To tell the types of lies she has been caught in, in the past couple of weeks, is weak, egoistic, and stupid.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Because even after 5 kids she looks better than you do

Does not compute.

Bwahahahahaha! You gots that right, Cutie! (For you, not me )

 

[JMohegan]

Be honest.

I honestly think this poll says a lot about you, WD. Let's flip it around.

Why do you love Sarah Palin?

1 - Because she diverts attention away from substantive issues.

2 - Because you're a member of the Limbaugh/Dobson crowd.

3 - Because you think she's Hot!

4 - Because you oppose a woman's right to choose.

5 - Because she reads teleprompter speeches drafted by Bush writers so well, and has absolutely no qualms about lying.

6 - All of the above.

 

[WriterDom]

I think she has a real toughness and grit to her. The Barracuda. I'm more of a fiscal conservative not a social one. But my one friend on our local board would have probably either not voted or voted for Barr, and now all that has changed. He's really fired up about Palin. She's going to bring all the people back who sat out in 2006. Will it be enough? We won't know until the fat lady sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

 

[WriterDom]

I hh Palin?


5 - Because she reads teleprompter speeches drafted by Bush writers so well, and has absolutely no qualms about lying.

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Obama now travels with a teleprompter. He's not very good without one.

 

[WriterDom]

I honestly think this poll says a lot about you, WD. Let's flip it around.

Why do you love Sarah Palin?

1 - Because she diverts attention away from substantive issues.

Yeah it's a political pick. Aren't they all?

2 - Because you're a member of the Limbaugh/Dobson crowd.

Not true. I will listen to Limbaugh in the car at times. But that's rare. And never watch any jesus tv.

3 - Because you think she's Hot!

Yes, she's pretty hot compared to most who hold office.

4 - Because you oppose a woman's right to choose.

That's not a big issue to me. I do think it is a state not a federal issue

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[Netzach]

I think she has a real toughness and grit to her. The Barracuda. I'm more of a fiscal conservative not a social one. But my one friend on our local board would have probably either not voted or voted for Barr, and now all that has changed. He's really fired up about Palin. She's going to bring all the people back who sat out in 2006. Will it be enough? We won't know until the fat lady sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

So basically you like the backstabbing bitch who fires anyone who stands in her way aspect of her. Popular girl wins again. Doesn't matter how much she has to lie or who she has to eliminate with smears, just imply the guy named Stein is a Jew and let people's worst instincts do the rest.

I had to file that under "stupid" because you didn't leave me an "evil lying" category.

It's interesting that SW and I both have "liar" issues here, as I know he's further to the independent/center part of the spectrum than I am.

Also you didn't leave a "delusional" option, for those of us who worry that she's not being disingenuous about how being mayor of Wamooseburger Alaska is going to prepare her to step in and have the veto pen over NYC and Boston and Chicago in the very possible event of McCain incapacitation.

 

[callinectes]

I self-ID as conservative (moderate), but this woman scares me.

Then again, so does the Dem ticket. Either way, I'm not happy. A private island in the Pacific is looking better every day.

 

[JMohegan]

I'm more of a fiscal conservative not a social one.

What evidence do you have that she's fiscally conservative? Other than Republican spin, that is. I'm looking for facts - real evidence as to what she's actually done.

Here's the way things look from where I'm sitting.


Point 1: Alaskans don't pay state taxes.

Alaska is the only state that does not collect state sales tax or levy an individual income tax on any type of personal income, either earned or unearned. To finance state operations, Alaska depends primarily on petroleum revenues.

Source.


Point 2: Alaskans actually RECEIVE annual dividend payments from the state.

It's the season for Alaskans to be rewarded just for living here, and this year's take is extra sweet: $3,269, a record share of the state's oil wealth combined with a special cash payout to help with stratospheric energy prices. Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell announced today that every eligible man, woman and child will receive $2,069, thanks to dividend payments from the state's oil royalty investment program distributed annually. On top of that, the checks will include another $1,200 from the state treasury to help offset soaring fuel prices. "The royalty dollars that flow through the state are the people's wealth," said Parnell. "The $1,200 resource rebate goes to that philosophy."

Source.


Point 3: Alaskans soak the rest of us for more money per capita than any other state.

Earmarks — pet projects that members of Congress fund but that no federal agency has requested — have become a mainstay of political life here, and one that Palin embraced from early on in her career as a mayor of Wasilla to the governor's mansion in Juneau. Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — more, per person, than any other state.

Source.



Conclusion: The key "challenges" in the Alaska budgeting process may be summarized as: "How should we spend our vast oil wealth?" and "How can we best milk the Lower 48?"

 

[Netzach]

What evidence do you have that she's fiscally conservative? Other than Republican spin, that is. I'm looking for facts - real evidence as to what she's actually done.

Here's the way things look from where I'm sitting.


Point 1: Alaskans don't pay state taxes.

Alaska is the only state that does not collect state sales tax or levy an individual income tax on any type of personal income, either earned or unearned. To finance state operations, Alaska depends primarily on petroleum revenues.

Source.


Point 2: Alaskans actually RECEIVE annual dividend payments from the state.

It's the season for Alaskans to be rewarded just for living here, and this year's take is extra sweet: $3,269, a record share of the state's oil wealth combined with a special cash payout to help with stratospheric energy prices. Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell announced today that every eligible man, woman and child will receive $2,069, thanks to dividend payments from the state's oil royalty investment program distributed annually. On top of that, the checks will include another $1,200 from the state treasury to help offset soaring fuel prices. "The royalty dollars that flow through the state are the people's wealth," said Parnell. "The $1,200 resource rebate goes to that philosophy."

Source.


Point 3: Alaskans soak the rest of us for more money per capita than any other state.

Earmarks — pet projects that members of Congress fund but that no federal agency has requested — have become a mainstay of political life here, and one that Palin embraced from early on in her career as a mayor of Wasilla to the governor's mansion in Juneau. Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — more, per person, than any other state.

Source.



Conclusion: The key "challenges" in the Alaska budgeting process may be summarized as: "How should we spend our vast oil wealth?" and "How can we best milk the Lower 48?"

No no, wait, it gets better.

The lower 48 send them 13,000 (I am not kidding) per capita.

If you divvy it up.

That's, um, almost a job.

(disclosure, it's a 2004 figure. From those wingnut conspiracy theorists of the MSM, NBC, a fact I've seen multiple places.)

 

[caela]

I self-ID as conservative (moderate), but this woman scares me.

Then again, so does the Dem ticket. Either way, I'm not happy. A private island in the Pacific is looking better every day.

Got room on that island for more than one???

 

[WriterDom]

She's vetoed about a half a billion from the budget over two years. Reduced earmarks from what Murkowski was getting. Sold his jet. And best of all, you have to love this, she took profits from the evil oil companies and gave the money to the people.

Can you name one tax cut that Obama supported? Can you name one tax increase he ever voted against in his entire career? Has he ever said anything but "Yes Sir, Master" when it comes to any bill before him? How do you think he got the label of most liberal in the senate?

I don't agree with McCain on everything but at least he votes with his head. Started with standing up to Reagan on sending troops into Lebanon. And we all know how that turned out.

 

[Netzach]

She's vetoed about a half a billion from the budget over two years.

Damn those rape kits are pricey.

 

[WriterDom]

Damn those rape kits are pricey.

Why is it that not one of your 30 Rambo lawyers have come up with one person who actually paid for a rape kit? Could it possibly be that they were charged to the insurance companies when possible and it was the insurance people who complained?

 

[Homburg]

I masturbated to Sarah Palin

I would Youtube more if they weren't being pricks towards Dan and JD (Two Knotty Boys).

 

[WriterDom]

I masturbated to Sarah Palin

I would Youtube more if they weren't being pricks towards Dan and JD (Two Knotty Boys).

That was good.

 

[WriterDom]

You know, that would pretty much seal the deal. Run an ad with a single mom.

"Hi, I was raped in Wasilla. Two weeks later I got a bill for $1200 dollars from the city. It wiped out my entire savings and that month my children went hungry. And what's worse, I felt raped all over again."

 

[Homburg]

That was good.

"Man, not in my car!"

 

[JMohegan]

She's vetoed about a half a billion from the budget over two years.

Do you know what she vetoed? Does it even matter to you what she vetoed?

Those are straight questions, because here's what I don't get. We're being asked to look at this woman as a model of fiscal responsibility, when she sits at the top of a budgetary system that never asks citizens for a single dime to fund anything at all. On the contrary, the state writes annual checks to each Alaskan, $3,269 for 2008 - i.e., $22,883 for Sarah Palin's family alone! How is this even *remotely* comparable to the fiscal challenges faced by other states - not to mention the Federal government?

In addition, consider the following facts.

According to the FBI, Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible rapes per capita, with a rate two and a half times the national average. Source.

Only one out of 20 children entering ninth grade in Alaska will have a college degree 10 years later. Alaska is eighth from the bottom among states in the number of ninth-graders graduating four years later; fourth from the bottom in high school seniors going directly to college, and last in the number of college freshmen receiving a bachelor's degree within 150 percent of the normal program length. Source.

Alaska has the highest suicide rate in the country. Source.

I could go on, but presumably I've made my point. Fiscal responsibility is great, but slashing budgets does not necessarily mean that the state's resources are being allocated in a responsible way.

The state has a responsibility to its citizens that goes beyond tapping oil wealth and milking the Lower 48 for infrastructure earmarks. How has Palin addressed those issues? In what way has she harnessed the SURPLUS at her command and combated the very real problems of the community in which she lives?

And best of all, you have to love this, she took profits from the evil oil companies and gave the money to the people.

I do NOT love the fact that she taxed oil companies and used the proceeds to write checks to Alaskans while milking you, me, Netzach, and everybody else in the Lower 48 for hundreds of millions of dollars in earmark funds.

Nor do I have evidence that she was responsibly addressing the dire social, educational, mental health, and other issues in her state while cutting checks to the non-tax-paying populace at the very same time.