Why do they hate us?

[SisterJezabel]

See Post #3.

I wish I could love and thumbs up posts on here. Thanks for your input KimGordon67.

 

[SpeareChucker]

You mean like this?

 

[KimGordon67]

Explain yourself.

You feel you can, from your glass house, cast these straw-man stones?

Who are the dicks and what is scaring them?



(Better yet: Link to me to your thread where you describe your systemic Racism.)

The systemic racism here is not the topic of this thread. I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, but try. No where, not once, have I said that there isn't racism in NZ, nor have I once held Aotearoa up as some sort of model.
But THIS thread is clearly about the current situation in the US, so that's what I'm commenting on. The situation here has literally no bearing on my ability to do so.

 

[Bad_Egg]

The systemic racism here is not the topic of this thread. I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, but try. No where, not once, have I said that there isn't racism in NZ, nor have I once held Aotearoa up as some sort of model.
But THIS thread is clearly about the current situation in the US, so that's what I'm commenting on. The situation here has literally no bearing on my ability to do so.

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[SisterJezabel]

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28). (For those God-fearing people who like to complain about 'The PC brigade' or basically anyone who wants to treat anyone other than white cisgendered males as inferior to them.

“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love.” —Nelson Mandela

And KimGordon67- I'm surprised they haven't told you to cook the man some effing eggs!

 

[KimGordon67]

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28). (For those God-fearing people who like to complain about 'The PC brigade' or basically anyone who wants to treat anyone other than white cisgendered males as inferior to them.

“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love.” —Nelson Mandela

And KimGordon67- I'm surprised they haven't told you to cook the man some effing eggs!

I'm literally laughing out loud.

 

[Bad_Egg]

cisgendered

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[SpeareChucker]

The systemic racism here is not the topic of this thread. I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, but try. No where, not once, have I said that there isn't racism in NZ, nor have I once held Aotearoa up as some sort of model.
But THIS thread is clearly about the current situation in the US, so that's what I'm commenting on. The situation here has literally no bearing on my ability to do so.

The main point is that you cannot resist any thread that gives you the opportunity
to bash the United States, I can't even recall a time when you weren't
position about how Racist we are, how we own guns, and abortion.

And you always get a little, I mean a lot hateful,
so I want to know who are the dicks and
why are they scared???

 

[SpeareChucker]

And then there is also your proclivity to cherry-pick
your facts and than make everyone argue to them
and you won't consider anything other than that
which you have decided is true, which is what
you are accusing others of in your anger.
I know... YOU NEVER SAID THAT!!!

 

[KimGordon67]

The main point is that you cannot resist any thread that gives you the opportunity
to bash the United States, I can't even recall a time when you weren't
position about how Racist we are, how we own guns, and abortion.

And you always get a little, I mean a lot hateful,
so I want to know who are the dicks and
why are they scared???

I think you are confusing my dislike of racism, my commitment to the need for gun control, and my abhorrence at restrictions on women's access to healthcare, with a hatred of the US.
Or your confusing my dislike of you with a hatred for the US.
Neither of these things are true - I have issues with the first three things regardless of context, and I don't think I'd like you no matter where you came from. But THIS thread is about the current situation IN THE US, so that's what I'm commenting on. I'm not 'bashing the US' - I'm comment on the situation that's happening right now. It's hardly my fault that it happens to be in the US.

Again, if you want to start a thread about racism in NZ, or about the need for less gun control here, or railing against the actually very recent legislation decrimininalising abortion here, by all means do - you seem to be quite upset about at least the first thing, so maybe it's something you'd like to discuss.

 

[SpeareChucker]

WHO ARE THE DICKS???


What are they scared of???

 

[SpeareChucker]

Why should I start a thread that you won't???



GLASS HOUSES!!!

 

[WillJ8787]

It is very clear that as long as the urban black population wants to hate
others based upon their skin color that they will receive
plenty of support and encouragement...





.... from the people they hate.
Self-loathing by education?



If you will not forgive you, no one else will.

Yep, this is right on the money!

 

[KimGordon67]

And then there is also your proclivity to cherry-pick
your facts and than make everyone argue to them
and you won't consider anything other than that
which you have decided is true, which is what
you are accusing others of in your anger.
I know... YOU NEVER SAID THAT!!!

LMAO - I'm not 'making everyone argue' to anything - how the fuck would I do that? The OP asked a question - I simply linked to material that pretty much answers the question.

But if you have evidence that black people aren't x times more likely to experience negative outcomes from the same event involving the criminal justice system, the education system, the health system, employment, etc etc as white people, by all means stump up with it. (Like, 'evidence', not research where n=1.)

Or just continue to deflect by pointing out that other places are racist too ... which seems ironic, considering you also seems to be trying to say that the issue in the US isn't racism, it's ... something else.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Bye Kimmie...


No dicks. No fear. You're full of shit, as usual.

 

[KimGordon67]

Why should I start a thread that you won't???



GLASS HOUSES!!!

Your glass house analogy would hold up if I was for a nano-second suggesting that there is no systemic racism in NZ.

I'm not the one who seems to think there's a need for a thread about systemic racism in Aotearoa. It is something I talk about, a lot, but I can't really seem the point in starting one here - Lit has a handful of Kiwi, and none of them frequent the GB. But, like I say, if you want to discuss it, by all means start the thread, and I'll happily respond to any thoughts you might have on the topic.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Yep, this is right on the money!

Hmmm...



Interesting.

 

[WillJ8787]

Looking at these mobs of mostly young and heavily non-white "protestors" marching and rioting in our streets I have to wonder where they get this hate for white people. It seems the farther we get from the civil rights era, the more not less many non-whites hate whites. I used to ask this question when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Here we are a generation and a half later and kids not even born then are as full of hate and resentment toward their fellow white neighbors then ever.

The fact they are willing to believe the media narrative that the Floyd incident was racially motivated despite zero evidence it had anything to do with race, as well as believe that somehow they are getting screwed by a society that bends over backwards to give them every advantage it can, and have so much rage toward society they literally take to the streets and try to destroy it, is puzzling.

My personal feeling is that anti-white racism is similar to anti-Semitism of the past. It shares many of the same hallmarks as traditional anti-Semitism. I fully suspect as time goes on, the hate to advance to pogroms or worse toward whites especially with the way the government encourages the narrative of white "privilege."

You exemplified the problem...you don't understand. Once you do you'll have more answers that you seem to be seeking.. Your also talking in generalisation. Hate does exist in all directions and from all political camps. So does empathy and tolerance. That usually doesn't get media attention. The only way to understand the level of anger that has exploded recently.... destroying things that also destroy ones community(like looting and arson), that only comes from the real sense that your not a part of that community and the real sense that that cops knee was also on your neck as well!

 

[SpeareChucker]

Here's part of the problem in the search for a solution,
the soft bigotry of low expectation. Before AntiFa
could arrive on scene, the rioting and looting
had already commenced but the Progressive
movement then began putting the blame on
outsiders and not the community.

If you know you're going to be absolved of blame,
then any behavior is a condoned behavior,
and bad behavior is equivalent to good.

 

[IsItBad]

reality

Looking at these mobs of mostly young and heavily non-white "protestors" marching and rioting in our streets I have to wonder where they get this hate for white people. It seems the farther we get from the civil rights era, the more not less many non-whites hate whites. I used to ask this question when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Here we are a generation and a half later and kids not even born then are as full of hate and resentment toward their fellow white neighbors then ever.

The fact they are willing to believe the media narrative that the Floyd incident was racially motivated despite zero evidence it had anything to do with race, as well as believe that somehow they are getting screwed by a society that bends over backwards to give them every advantage it can, and have so much rage toward society they literally take to the streets and try to destroy it, is puzzling.

My personal feeling is that anti-white racism is similar to anti-Semitism of the past. It shares many of the same hallmarks as traditional anti-Semitism. I fully suspect as time goes on, the hate to advance to pogroms or worse toward whites especially with the way the government encourages the narrative of white "privilege."

always keep in mind that what the news is reporting, what is being heralded on social media......is by far the minority......look around your own life....your neighborhood.....do you hate people because of their skin color? do you treat people differently because of race? the reality is - MOST Americans treat one another well and are willing to do anything to help one another......

the media and the democratic party is driving the attempts at division and race war for the continued purpose of destabilizing the country even more in hopes of unseating the President. Antifa is a Soros funded hate mongerer who apparently wants socialism and a one world order. What they most want is hate and dissention.

the reality is that there is a powerful faction in high places who hope they can cause us all to turn against one another.......what we all need to do, however, is turn towards one another, treat one another the best we can, and unite against THEM. we are all being manipulated and what we are seeing now is just another extension of russia collusion, impeachment, the scamdemic, and now race riots.

none of this is about George Floyd. It is about George Soros. WE have to stop playing into their hands.

and to help pundits......yes, i am well aware that there remains some racism in this country and others, there remains social injustice across class lines, races, religions and other factors......what i am saying is that MOST Americans are not that way, do not condone or support that, and will do the right things given the opportunity

 

[FlowersForFun]

I don't think years of rigorous and well articulated research, nor clearly verifiable statistics count as 'op-eds'.

Your first link, wapo, is literally an Op-ed.....written by a self described opinion writer.

Statistics, none of which mean a whole lot.

But I've also posted on the GB for long enough to know that literally no evidence that was presented would be 'enough' ... whatever was provided, y'all would be 'no, not THAT evidence'.

Yes, make an assumption about us so you don't have to defend your "evidence".

Basically, you're a bunch of self-entitled dicks

How do you figure?

As I see it the only self entitled dicks are the people rioting.

who, right now, are a bit scared, and it's easier to blame 'them' than actually accept the blindingly obvious evidence that people might have a reason to be angry.

Well THEY are the ones running around setting homes on fire and killing people.

They have a reason to be angry sure, that does not excuse their violence against their own communities and each other though.

Or make it any less self destructive or stupid.

 

[Ramone45]

Since this has become a white and black issue, with the white community held responsible for problems in the black community, do you think the black community can do to improve their situation proactively?
The failure of the nuclear family seems to have had a terrible effect on the black community. There seems to be difficulty for the black community to conform toan American ideology, such has valuing hard work, valuing education, rejecting lawlessness and crime, rejecting violence, valuing family and relationships, taking responsibilitiy. If you consider modern American Black Culture and Asian culture, there are differences, I think.
Sometime I think there is a segment of modern White political culture that perhaps intentionally or unintentionally creates a victim mentality for blacks from which they can't or won't escape.
Stereotypes begin somewhere, for both blacks and whites.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Since this has become a white and black issue, with the white community held responsible for problems in the black community, do you think the black community can do to improve their situation proactively?
The failure of the nuclear family seems to have had a terrible effect on the black community. There seems to be difficulty for the black community to conform toan American ideology, such has valuing hard work, valuing education, rejecting lawlessness and crime, rejecting violence, valuing family and relationships, taking responsibilitiy. If you consider modern American Black Culture and Asian culture, there are differences, I think.
Sometime I think there is a segment of modern White political culture that perhaps intentionally or unintentionally creates a victim mentality for blacks from which they can't or won't escape.
Stereotypes begin somewhere, for both blacks and whites.

Segregation

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1525284

It's the soft bigotry of low expectations;
when Progressive white America stops bending over backwards
to blame the sins of the past and the current curse of conservatism,
then we have a shot at honest race-relations, but as long as it is an industry
and the cornerstone of our higher educational institutions, we're going to have the
perception of systemic Racialism because when you look hard enough you can always
find the exception and when your educational standards are to teach to the LCD, the exception
can be marketed by those who rely on race-bating for power, prestige and financial gain as the rule.

 

[hogjack]

"They" hate whites because whites:

• are racists;
• are killers;
• and cause all the world's problems.

That goes for ALL whites. You aren't even white. Basically various shades from extreme pale to a light pink tone except for those with tans.

A world without whites is a world of peace and prosperity for all.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Progressive brainiacs:

Rioters vandalized the Robert Gould Shaw 54th Regiment monument, which celebrates the first all-volunteer black regiment of the Union Army during the Civil War.

“A thousand men signed up just after President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, just think about that,” Liz Vizza, executive director of Friends of the Public Garden, told ABC affiliate WCVB. “These are men who, if they were captured in the South, would be enslaved or murdered. But this cause was so important to them, they signed up to go fight for their freedom.”

https://pjmedia.com/culture/tyler-o...ment-celebrating-black-union-patriots-n495913