Aquila
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Socialism/Communism/Marxism/Leninism/Maoism, however you term it, is an invalid and historically flawed system. In its purest form (on paper), these ideologies may indeed have some merit. However once these ideologies hit real world problems, they are inadequate to the task of truly governing, providing for, and sustaining a nation.
These systems do not work because they depend too much on pie in the sky, everyone doing their fair share, perfect people. Put bluntly these people do not exist. As anyone that has lived past the age of five can tell you. These systems also depend on less skilled labor and more uneducated labor. Under the flawed notion that a college education or advanced education of any type, beyond what the state provides, could be considered elitist. Thus they pull any person of sufficiently political reliability off the street and train them to do a job they do not fully understand. Teaching their populaces that steps A,B,C,D,E,F and G must be performed, but if something goes wrong with step B, the workers are unable to figure out why, do to the fact that they have been conditioned to only perform and not to think.
Heinlen said it best when he brought this idea up in his book entitled Starship Troopers.
In one of the chapters dealing with a fictional class on history and moral philosophy he wrote (paraphrase) that no matter how many unskilled workers are thrown at a problem, only one skilled worker can accomplish better than all. And for the most part this is true.
The systems that depend on a socialist structure also assume that by just existing a person is entitled to certain handouts from the government, while in an ideal society this may be feasible, you will always run into the problem not enough resources for too many people. Thus providing widespread and almost unilateral poverty across the nation that implements these systems.
To date the greatest country that tried Communism has been Russia, which ultimately failed precisely because of their misguided beliefs that the state could provide for its populace with undedicated and unmotivated workers. Not rewarding workers that performed better than any others, but allotting them the same share of government stipends. Thus workers where unmotivated to perform, as nothing was in it for them.
China is the current largest Communist government, and has been able to survive only because of two major factors. A. The cultural bias towards accepting rule from above, without question. And B. They started integrating capitalist economic models into their society as a whole, thus giving themselves an economic boost, that their little red book states should be impossible.
And lastly I touch upon Cuba as an example of non-functioning communist government. The people in Cuba are dirt poor, many having nothing more than overcrowded houses and at best running water. Yet the Cuban government tells these people they have reached utopia. Cuba may as well be a third world nation, yet it sits bare miles off the coast of the united states. However its economic system and communist government ideology prevents any sort of trade normalization to vitalize the country. The united states is not at fault because of their trade embargo, namely because as free people they have the right to trade with whom they please. And trading with and enriching a country that extols political beliefs so far from the U.Ss is akin to you as a normal person choosing not to purchase your groceries at a store that blatantly supports Satanism. For the trade issue alone, Cuba will eventually rot and wither on the vine.
These few historical examples prove that the pipe dream of communism, is just that, a pipe dream, and nothing more.
If you want to bring power to the people, educate the people and teach them self discipline. Only education and motivation can combat poverty. Not handouts from the government, that require the government to mug the middle and upper classes.
These systems do not work because they depend too much on pie in the sky, everyone doing their fair share, perfect people. Put bluntly these people do not exist. As anyone that has lived past the age of five can tell you. These systems also depend on less skilled labor and more uneducated labor. Under the flawed notion that a college education or advanced education of any type, beyond what the state provides, could be considered elitist. Thus they pull any person of sufficiently political reliability off the street and train them to do a job they do not fully understand. Teaching their populaces that steps A,B,C,D,E,F and G must be performed, but if something goes wrong with step B, the workers are unable to figure out why, do to the fact that they have been conditioned to only perform and not to think.
Heinlen said it best when he brought this idea up in his book entitled Starship Troopers.
In one of the chapters dealing with a fictional class on history and moral philosophy he wrote (paraphrase) that no matter how many unskilled workers are thrown at a problem, only one skilled worker can accomplish better than all. And for the most part this is true.
The systems that depend on a socialist structure also assume that by just existing a person is entitled to certain handouts from the government, while in an ideal society this may be feasible, you will always run into the problem not enough resources for too many people. Thus providing widespread and almost unilateral poverty across the nation that implements these systems.
To date the greatest country that tried Communism has been Russia, which ultimately failed precisely because of their misguided beliefs that the state could provide for its populace with undedicated and unmotivated workers. Not rewarding workers that performed better than any others, but allotting them the same share of government stipends. Thus workers where unmotivated to perform, as nothing was in it for them.
China is the current largest Communist government, and has been able to survive only because of two major factors. A. The cultural bias towards accepting rule from above, without question. And B. They started integrating capitalist economic models into their society as a whole, thus giving themselves an economic boost, that their little red book states should be impossible.
And lastly I touch upon Cuba as an example of non-functioning communist government. The people in Cuba are dirt poor, many having nothing more than overcrowded houses and at best running water. Yet the Cuban government tells these people they have reached utopia. Cuba may as well be a third world nation, yet it sits bare miles off the coast of the united states. However its economic system and communist government ideology prevents any sort of trade normalization to vitalize the country. The united states is not at fault because of their trade embargo, namely because as free people they have the right to trade with whom they please. And trading with and enriching a country that extols political beliefs so far from the U.Ss is akin to you as a normal person choosing not to purchase your groceries at a store that blatantly supports Satanism. For the trade issue alone, Cuba will eventually rot and wither on the vine.
These few historical examples prove that the pipe dream of communism, is just that, a pipe dream, and nothing more.
If you want to bring power to the people, educate the people and teach them self discipline. Only education and motivation can combat poverty. Not handouts from the government, that require the government to mug the middle and upper classes.
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