who will run in 2004?

WriterDom

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Regardless of how close the election was, Al Gore losing was like the Oklahoma Sooners losing to the Temple Owls in football. A sitting VP for 8 years with a strong (maybe) economy and a world not at war losing to a dyslectic Texan with a shaky record as Governor and a DUI revealed on the weekend before the vote.

Who runs in 2004? Do you trust Gore, or perhaps Hillary? And assuming Gore runs and wins two terms, would Hillary be willing to wait 12 years to face an energized Republican party in 2012?

And please, no posts about how Gore won. Time to get beyond that.
 
WriterDom said:
Do you trust Gore, or perhaps Hillary?
I didn't trust Gore in 2000, why would I trust him in 2004?

Depending on how Hillary does in her new post, she could maybe be a candidate in 2004. That is so far away though, so many other people could come to the front of the line between now and then. In other words, it is a little early for this discussion, I think. Give it a year or two.
 
Question: Who will run in 2004?

Unfortunate Answer: The American public. FROM the voting polls.


MP
 
Some bland creature of the media, packaged to suit the masses, I suppose. Does it really matter?

Right now I'm getting very discouraged; I'm trying to find one, honest-to-goodness liberal. It's hard going.

As the song says, "What's Left, America?"
 
Hey I want Laurel to run for president in 2004!! Anybody agree with me? I'm sure she could do wonders for the states!! lol
 
Laurel has a more important job here. Besides, she's too young anyway.
 
Politics schmolitics. I'd rather put my head in a vice.

A better question is this: will the Republicans run Dubyah in 2004, or will the abandon him in favor of McCain? It could happen...
 
CreamyLady said:
Some bland creature of the media, packaged to suit the masses, I suppose. Does it really matter?

Right now I'm getting very discouraged; I'm trying to find one, honest-to-goodness liberal. It's hard going.

As the song says, "What's Left, America?"


Indiana to the rescue - we've got Evan Bayh for consideration. Dishwasher safe and able to avoid being connected to any issue, no matter how benign. He even copped the Clinton method by boring the shit out of the delegates at the last convention.

Gore is a proven loser and burned a bunch of bridges with his campaign. He will share a box seat with Dukakis from now on.
 
I think Jesse jackson HAS to make a major comeback now. Let's face it - he's lied, he's cheated, he's slept with women he isn't married to, he's caused a public scandal, the newspapers are baying for his blood. In all, he's a bloody disgrace. Er...isn't it mandatory to have heaps of dirty linen in order to run for Prez?
 
RonG said:
Gore is a proven loser and burned a bunch of bridges with his campaign. He will share a box seat with Dukakis from now on.

Amen. He blew it. It never should have come down to Florida. He did everything wrong. Hopefully, the Dems will come up with someone better, someone I can support wth more confidence. Bradley, maybe?
 
I'd vote for Bradley. I like his stance on gun control and abortion. And we already know he's not a bumbling idiot. He's a Rhodes Scholar, and everytime he's called on the floor regarding any of his opinions he's really straightforward
 
No possible women candidates for Prez? Personally, I think that's the problem. Really astute women (like Laurel) wouldn't run for Prez. They are all out doing something useful in the UN or WHO or Amnesty International. Prez is a job for boys with small dicks and big egos. OOOOppps. Seriously, are there any women?
 
Maybe we could coax Collin Powell to run with Elizabeth Dole as his running mate? Just an idea, though Powell has said he would not..........Maybe Cheney with Powell as his VP?
 
Elizabeth Dole is a bad campaigner or has questionable policies or doesn't understand issues?
 
Hmmm..don't know enough about American politics. Seems to me just about impossible for a woman to be Prez. If she's seen to "have balls" like Maggie Thatcher the public won't like her. If she does charity work she's going to be seen as "too lightweight". Can't find a good pic of ED on the net. Does she have big hair? I think big hair is female equivalent of male penis. I have a theory that men with small penises and women with big hair are trying to make up for other inadequacies by seeking power. As Hillary gained more control of policy her hair got bigger. Back to being short and clipped last I saw.
 
I got the impression that Gore had given up long before the election; he never seemed to be there, or want to be there.

I do wonder how much of this is sometimes a case of a momentary enthusiasm turning into a commitment nightmare -- rather like a one-night stand. "I can do a a few terms as a senator, sure . . . but I want out after that."

Anyway, I managed to miss all of the inaugural festivities, and the speeches, and the commentary. I went shoe shopping instead.
 
CRaZy said:

"No possible women candidates for Prez? .....Prez is a job for boys with small dicks and big egos. OOOOppps. ......."

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I think you just discribed Hillary... Would'nt that be great if she turned out to a transvestite(sp)!! [no it would'nt cause them I'm sure (he/she/it) would be a sure thing......]

Honestly you better GW more credit.. (he wasn't my first choice) .... but he is there for 8..... and no this is NOT....
 
I think both sides have women waiting in the wings, it just takes so long to properly groom and train a candidate. This difference showed up in this election, which is why I think so many people get a dumb impression from Bush and not from Gore. Gore has had more practice reps and pulls it off better, and just like stories or martial arts, reps are the key to success. Christine Todd Whitman and Hillary come to mind, but there are more.

I think, like in Minnesota, that the established, bland candidates are just setting themselves up for a major fall if some major charismatic steps into the fray.
 
I think a lot of the "dumb Bush" was put out to destroy him by left. Backfired a little in the first debate when he went up against the "Tammy Faye Baker" Gore. I think gore probably would have won if his advisors had quit dicking with his personality. Or his lack of one.
 
WriterDom said:
I think gore probably would have won if his advisors had quit dicking with his personality. Or his lack of one.

Dom,

I can't tell you how strongly I agree with this statement. While I was not an enthusiastic supporter of Gore, I did think he was the better choice, and I had seen him speak a couple times BEFORE the election. Granted, he's not a gifted speaker, but he did have a sincerity and an intelligence about him that made him personable. I saw NO TRACE of that man during the election. It wasn't until his CONCESSION speech that the real Al Gore stood up. THAT, to me, is what lost him the election.

MP
 
Who knows?

2004 is such a long time away that there's no way to know who might oppose Bush. But I can say who I think it WON'T be:

No Al Gore. He was the incumbant, he was up against a weak opponent, and he let himself get beat. Gore should be in the White House right now (I think legally, too), but he should have coasted to victory. No way the Democratic party risks the nomination on him in 2004. And I don't think he'd want it. He's not a natural political animal like Clinton was (and is).

No Hillary, no way. She ran for the Senate in a very liberal state against a relative nobody and only got 55% of the vote. Lots of people love Hillary. Trouble is, lots of people hate her guts. She's unelectable.

No Bill Bradley. He couldn't out-run Gore, who is a terrible campaigner. No way the Dems give Bradley the nod.

I think in the next two years you'll be seeing a number of young, aggressive, and ambitious Democratic senators and governors suddenly showing up on national TV more often and making waves. Bayh from Indiana, that guy from North Carolina (sorry, hate to refer to a potential most powerful man on earth as 'that guy'), Davis from California (if the lights don't go out for good).

Look for the jockeying to begin very, very soon. Bush is an eminently beatable Prez, and I'm sure there are many Dems out there who think they could very easily become the next Bill Clinton, minus the weakness for intern nookie.
 
"Intern nookie"--Bubba was a wild and crazy guy--gonna miss him-

Vlad
 
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