Who needs men?

Barb Dwyer

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Well, I for one, do! I kind of like you fellas for more than just your reproductive capabilities.

But, I heard a report on the car radio today about this and had to come home to read more about it. I am sure it will be a boon and a blessing for infertile men who still want to biological fathers.

Obviously, they still need to get the cells from a male body, but sperm seems to be going the way of manual typewriters and record players! Still around but not really used or needed anymore. Obsoleted. Superceded!

But, in the future, will we get to the point where men will be obsolete? Then will women (wombs) become unnecessary? What do you think?

Australian Research Fertilizes Eggs Without Sperm

ADELAIDE (Reuters) - Australian researchers said on Tuesday they may have found a way to fertilize an egg with cells from any part of the body, rather than sperm--a finding they say offers hope to infertile men.

Australian infertility scientist Orly Lacham-Kaplan said early research on mice could produce a breakthrough for many men who have no sperm or sperm-making cells. "This is the group for which this kind of technique probably will be very helpful,'' she said. "A lot of these people would like to father their own biological children.''

Lacham-Kaplan said the research, if successful in humans, also theoretically could allow babies to be born without any input from men, although she admitted that such an outcome could open up an ethical can of worms. "If, as a technology, it would be used as a treatment for infertile couples, then I would accept it very well,'' she told Reuters in an interview. "However, I think we need to draw the line where it is used, and I believe a lot of ethical groups would draw the line.''

Lacham-Kaplan's research unit at the Monash University's Institute of Reproduction and Development in Melbourne has so far been able to fertilize mice eggs with somatic cells--derived from the non-reproductive parts of the animals' bodies. The process has effectively "mimicked'' fertilization with sperm, allowing the team to grow embryos in laboratory cultures.

The next critical test in the study is to transfer hundreds of those embryos into surrogate mice mothers, to see if they can survive and grow. "Then we have a long process of testing those pups to see whether they will be born, whether they are normal, whether they are capable of reproducing, and if the offspring from those pups will be normal as well,'' she said."If we get live, healthy babies out of those embryos, then we'll say yes, this is a possibility of fertilizing an egg with a somatic cell,'' she said.

The mice experiments were expected to take up to a year. If they are successful--and Lacham-Kaplan admits to some doubts--then it will be possible to experiment on humans, although where such trials could take place would be limited. Australia, like many other countries, has banned all experiments involving somatic cell transfer into human eggs, but the United States could be an option, she said. "At the moment I feel there will be more problems than success, but if it is a success, it will be quite a good surprise,'' she said. "It would be an incredible breakthrough.''
 
The concept if truly used for just allowing infertile men to father their wives children would be incredible if it did not leave open the possibility that the extreme feminist groups could use this as a way to dispose of the need for Daddy.

Sadly, my choices resulted in my sons living in a fatherless household and even though I do my best for them, they will never have the daddy they deserved.

Children need a mommy and a daddy. This completely removes the crucial need for a man to consent by the act of sexual intercourse or sperm donation.

Do we need to see if this works? Should we really continue to tamper with genetics? At what cost do we put science above human life?
 
Mommy and Daddy, if both are competent, are both needed in the home to have a solid family..its too tough for one to do it alone

The danger here is the same as cloning, there will be imperfections and problems that will show up at birth or later.

I have a feeling humanity is coming close to its comeuppance for fooling around with this shit. I don't know what form it will take, but it's coming.
 
I suppose I could point out that if this technique worked we could have Mommy and mommy making babies.
 
Never said:
I suppose I could point out that if this technique worked we could have Mommy and mommy making babies.

Never, I will play mummy for you

Couldn't they by the same token make two daddy families?
 
Errr, nope. You can't combine a sperm with cells from other parts of the body. That wouldn't work.
You can only combine an egg with the cell.
 
They still need the eggs Cheffie.


Amazing. My best friend is a nanny for a Lesbian couple with 3 children (1 set of twins) each of the women was inseminated and carried their children to term , they both wanted to experience the actual act of giving birth to a child that was "theirs"
While they are a beautiful family that has broken many barriers and squelched many stereotypes they still deal with a great amout of stress over the "Man" involved in the making of their babies. How wonderful it would be if they didn't have to deal with that.
 
Adoratrice said:
They still need the eggs Cheffie.


Amazing. My best friend is a nanny for a Lesbian couple with 3 children (1 set of twins) each of the women was inseminated and carried their children to term , they both wanted to experience the actual act of giving birth to a child that was "theirs"
While they are a beautiful family that has broken many barriers and squelched many stereotypes they still deal with a great amout of stress over the "Man" involved in the making of their babies. How wonderful it would be if they didn't have to deal with that.

I have to say as much as I love lesbian couples having kids and all, is it fair that a gay couple cant have the same supposed no female involvement. I know its a bitch but I'm for all equality or none.


I thought they would be able to strand splitting dna maybe...
 
Your right Cheffie...it isn't fair and I would also like to see equality for all.


And I must admit that as wonderful as it would be for those involved , I have a tendancy to distance myself from things that do not directly affect my life, to not think about the realities involved in such things as cloning & DNA splicing , global warming & such. So my first reaction to everything is to see the positive side of it..............it is sure to be my undoing some day.





(I was kidding about the Global warming)
 
If women no longer need male sperm...

...to produce a child and sex can be determined medically will we soon be seeing an imbalanced world more or less completely populated by females.

God! Even longer queues at the checkouts...:D
 
Re: If women no longer need male sperm...

p_p_man said:
...to produce a child and sex can be determined medically will we soon be seeing an imbalanced world more or less completely populated by females.

God! Even longer queues at the checkouts...:D

Imagine the traffic! :D

Yeesh, now we're really obsolete. Just remember who plays the only decent hockey you can watch.
 
I don't need men, but I need a particular man, someone who is special and honest to me. For that, I would give away everything I have.
 
I'm going to miss...

...male bonding - a truly man thing.

The smell of the pine trees, the splash of the fish at the end of the line, the beers, the deep philsophical chats, the fights...

sigh...
 
Myst said:
I don't need men, but I need a particular man, someone who is special and honest to me. For that, I would give away everything I have.


You will find that man one day.I have no doubts.




CH
 
who needs men.

Hey! I need to experience a man first before I say I don't need one.

Lonely 29yr. old Virgin looking for her first man. Must be gentle and considerate. Money not a factor.

I am not a Maryln Monroe but not a Phylilis Diller either.

Getting desperate.

Minnie(tired of being a virgin)
 
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