who needs alqueada when you have americans who will do the job for free

Actually, I think GWB is doing a nice job for Osama and Al Qaeda.
 
Todd-'o'-Vision said:
Anti-war protestors = domestic terrorism - Volunteer Alqueda

Unfortunately that's how most people see the equation. :(
 
Re: Re: who needs alqueada when you have americans who will do the job for free

Sillyman said:
Unfortunately that's how most people see the equation. :(

It is quite sad and very untrue
 
Amen, Kitten......<sighs>....where is the capability to offer fair argument gone?
 
Todd-'o'-Vision said:
Anti-war protestors = domestic terrorism - Volunteer Alqueda


This is very true son...very very true.

The enemy within.
 
A friend of mine got spit on yesterday for going to the store. He got spit on (more than once) because he was wearing an Army PT shirt. Then there was a fight. The spitter went to jail.

I don't mine peaceful protests at all. But those who are going about it to purposly cause trouble for others like blocking road ways, abusing others who don't support their views.. Those people need to be arrested and held for more than the 4 hours they are being held.
 
There were supposed to be question marks surrounding the equation, but anyway now that I got some knee jerk responses and some thoughtful responses I will post my feelings on the matter.

I have nothing against protesting against what one believes in, wheter it be anti-war, proabortion, anti-union, anti big government, etc.

But like in christianity which people always throw at me its the small fringe elements that gives a bad name to the whole.

i don't mind picketers chaining themselves to buildings, or trees or fences, or even marching a picket line.

The ones I equate with domestic terrorism are those who maliciously go out of thier way to destroy public and private property, defacing buildings, cars, etc. breaking windows, doors, buildins, cars. disrupting the normal flow of public activity.

I give a protestor much more attention for thier matter when they go out and do things in an orderly manner, but like any group mob mentality soon takes over and ruins any good cause that they may be presenting by means of thier actions such as the person Prrde Flower mentioned, the vomit protest, loting and pillaging.

When damage outwieghs the good and erases the true cause, protesting turns to domestic terrorism and to me that is the same goals that people such as alqueda desire.

my 2 cents, 3 cents short
 
They want to protest? Fine let them walk around in circles on the sidewalk stating their opinion in a calm and orderly way. Once they start damaging property it is no longer protesting it is vandilism.

Unfortunately the penelty for vandilism really isn't strong enough.

There is my dimes worth.
 
Todd-'o'-Vision said:
There were supposed to be question marks surrounding the equation, but anyway now that I got some knee jerk responses and some thoughtful responses I will post my feelings on the matter.

I have nothing against protesting against what one believes in, wheter it be anti-war, proabortion, anti-union, anti big government, etc.

But like in christianity which people always throw at me its the small fringe elements that gives a bad name to the whole.

i don't mind picketers chaining themselves to buildings, or trees or fences, or even marching a picket line.

The ones I equate with domestic terrorism are those who maliciously go out of thier way to destroy public and private property, defacing buildings, cars, etc. breaking windows, doors, buildins, cars. disrupting the normal flow of public activity.

I give a protestor much more attention for thier matter when they go out and do things in an orderly manner, but like any group mob mentality soon takes over and ruins any good cause that they may be presenting by means of thier actions such as the person Prrde Flower mentioned, the vomit protest, loting and pillaging.

When damage outwieghs the good and erases the true cause, protesting turns to domestic terrorism and to me that is the same goals that people such as alqueda desire.

my 2 cents, 3 cents short

Yeah I agree with you there for the most part. I hate to see these protests turning violent. I thought the protests were about peace, non-violence, etc.

Someone spitting on another for wearing an Army PT shirt disgusts me. That's so wrong. I protest while wearing my ex's Army PT shirts and my dad's old Air Force unit shirts. The protests here have been nice and peaceful. Everyone I've encountered is pro-peace and pro-troops.
 
...which has got me wondering...who really is the true enemy within?
 
I know there are always those who will take pleasure in running amok and that this is often used to discredit protests, if a few hundred people at a sports event start a fight the event is not criticized, so why is the media so eager to tar a protest with the bad behavior of a minority.

There have also been protests which would have gone peacefully until aggression from the authorities provoked the crowds, the poll tax riots in London being a classic example of a peacefully protest aggressively aggravated by police brutality until the crowd turned, believe me seeing women with kids battoned will turn most crowds nasty.


You need to look deeper into the causes of violence at events and try not to pigeonhole all protesters, it makes you look stupid.;)

Do you take a few members of the Army stealing of committing worse crimes and believe the Army is bad? no you know it is individuals behaving badly, why allow your prejudices to prevent you giving the same respect to other groups?
 
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