Le Jacquelope
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Miles refuted by BUSH HIMSELF...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051120...46Ebob9xg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
Bush Tones Down Attack on Iraq War Critics
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent 34 minutes ago
After fiercely defending his Iraq policy across Asia, President Bush abruptly toned down his attack on war critics Sunday and said there was nothing unpatriotic about opposing his strategy.
"People should feel comfortable about expressing their opinions about Iraq," Bush said, three days after agreeing with Vice President Dick Cheney that the critics were "reprehensible."
The president also praised Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pa., as "a fine man" and a strong supporter of the military despite the congressman's call for troop withdrawal as soon as possible.
Bush brought up the growing Iraq debate when he met reporters after inconclusive talks with President Hu Jintao about friction in U.S.-China relations. Bush ran into stiff resistance from the Chinese to his call for expanding religious freedom and human rights.
He also reported no breakthroughs toward reducing China's massive trade surplus, overhauling its currency system or protecting intellectual property rights.
The president took satisfaction simply in the fact that Hu mentioned human rights when the two leaders made joint statements to the press. "Those who watch China closely would say that maybe a decade ago, a leader wouldn't have uttered those comments," Bush said. "He talked about democracy."
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complained that "we've certainly not seen the progress that we would expect" on a months-old U.S. request for action by China on specific human rights cases. Bush said the U.S. had presented a list of "dissidents that we believe are unfairly imprisoned."
China was the most anticipated stop on Bush's weeklong visit, which has included Japan and South Korea.
Bush flies home on Monday after a four-hour stop in Mongolia, the first ever by an American president. The brief visit is a reward for Mongolia's pursuit of democracy and support for the U.S. fight against terrorism.
The president packed a lot into his Beijing visit.
In a country where the practice of religion is harshly restricted, Bush worshipped at a church and complimented the preacher on her sermon. He went mountain bike-riding with six young athletes vying for spots on China's Olympic team. "How do you say, `Take it easy on the old man,'" Bush joked.
When a reporter suggested Bush had seemed unenthusiastic in his joint appearance with Hu, the president responded, "Have you ever heard of jet lag?"
Thousands of miles from home, Bush and other White House officials have not let a day go by without a tough counterattack against Democratic critics of the president's Iraq policies. But the president replaced the no-holds-barred approach with a softer tone Sunday.
"I heard somebody say, `Well, maybe so-and-so is not patriotic because they disagree with my position.' I totally reject that thought," Bush said.
"This is not an issue of who's patriotic and who's not patriotic," he said. "It's an issue of an honest, open debate about the way forward in Iraq."
The Iraq war has undercut Americans' confidence in Bush's credibility and his response to terrorism and has helped drop his approval rating to the lowest point of his presidency. Nearly 2,100 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war began in March 2003.
Bush came to the defense of Murtha, the hawkish congressman who has been denounced by Republicans for advocating withdrawal. Bush's own spokesman had compared the combat-decorated Vietnam veteran to war critic-movie producer Michael Moore and suggested Murtha was counseling surrender to terrorists.
On Sunday, Bush called Murtha a "fine man and a good man."
"I know the decision to call for the immediate withdrawal of our troops by Congressman Murtha was done in a careful and thoughtful way," the president said. "I disagree with his position."
Murtha told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday he hoped the administration would take his proposal seriously and the president would "get a few of us to the White House and talk to us about this very difficult problem which the whole nation wants to solve with a bipartisan manner."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051120...46Ebob9xg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
Bush Tones Down Attack on Iraq War Critics
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent 34 minutes ago
After fiercely defending his Iraq policy across Asia, President Bush abruptly toned down his attack on war critics Sunday and said there was nothing unpatriotic about opposing his strategy.
"People should feel comfortable about expressing their opinions about Iraq," Bush said, three days after agreeing with Vice President Dick Cheney that the critics were "reprehensible."
The president also praised Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pa., as "a fine man" and a strong supporter of the military despite the congressman's call for troop withdrawal as soon as possible.
Bush brought up the growing Iraq debate when he met reporters after inconclusive talks with President Hu Jintao about friction in U.S.-China relations. Bush ran into stiff resistance from the Chinese to his call for expanding religious freedom and human rights.
He also reported no breakthroughs toward reducing China's massive trade surplus, overhauling its currency system or protecting intellectual property rights.
The president took satisfaction simply in the fact that Hu mentioned human rights when the two leaders made joint statements to the press. "Those who watch China closely would say that maybe a decade ago, a leader wouldn't have uttered those comments," Bush said. "He talked about democracy."
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice complained that "we've certainly not seen the progress that we would expect" on a months-old U.S. request for action by China on specific human rights cases. Bush said the U.S. had presented a list of "dissidents that we believe are unfairly imprisoned."
China was the most anticipated stop on Bush's weeklong visit, which has included Japan and South Korea.
Bush flies home on Monday after a four-hour stop in Mongolia, the first ever by an American president. The brief visit is a reward for Mongolia's pursuit of democracy and support for the U.S. fight against terrorism.
The president packed a lot into his Beijing visit.
In a country where the practice of religion is harshly restricted, Bush worshipped at a church and complimented the preacher on her sermon. He went mountain bike-riding with six young athletes vying for spots on China's Olympic team. "How do you say, `Take it easy on the old man,'" Bush joked.
When a reporter suggested Bush had seemed unenthusiastic in his joint appearance with Hu, the president responded, "Have you ever heard of jet lag?"
Thousands of miles from home, Bush and other White House officials have not let a day go by without a tough counterattack against Democratic critics of the president's Iraq policies. But the president replaced the no-holds-barred approach with a softer tone Sunday.
"I heard somebody say, `Well, maybe so-and-so is not patriotic because they disagree with my position.' I totally reject that thought," Bush said.
"This is not an issue of who's patriotic and who's not patriotic," he said. "It's an issue of an honest, open debate about the way forward in Iraq."
The Iraq war has undercut Americans' confidence in Bush's credibility and his response to terrorism and has helped drop his approval rating to the lowest point of his presidency. Nearly 2,100 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war began in March 2003.
Bush came to the defense of Murtha, the hawkish congressman who has been denounced by Republicans for advocating withdrawal. Bush's own spokesman had compared the combat-decorated Vietnam veteran to war critic-movie producer Michael Moore and suggested Murtha was counseling surrender to terrorists.
On Sunday, Bush called Murtha a "fine man and a good man."
"I know the decision to call for the immediate withdrawal of our troops by Congressman Murtha was done in a careful and thoughtful way," the president said. "I disagree with his position."
Murtha told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday he hoped the administration would take his proposal seriously and the president would "get a few of us to the White House and talk to us about this very difficult problem which the whole nation wants to solve with a bipartisan manner."
Don K Dyck
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LovingTongue said:
heheheheh . . . and all the aussie television evening news services ran pics of Shrubya getting lost finding the door our of the conference room . . .
THe commentary went: "[Shrubya] couldn't find the correct door to escape from the news conference. When the door wouldn't open, he stood to attention like the little boy who had been sent into the corner, and waited until somebody directed him to the correct exit door". heheheheheheh
Bet you didn't see THAT on Fauxsmell . . .
Le Jacquelope
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Awwwwwwww hell no... are you serious?! Damn, I want linkage!Don K Dyck said:heheheheh . . . and all the aussie television evening news services ran pics of Shrubya getting lost finding the door our of the conference room . . .
THe commentary went: "[Shrubya] couldn't find the correct door to escape from the news conference. When the door wouldn't open, he stood to attention like the little boy who had been sent into the corner, and waited until somebody directed him to the correct exit door". heheheheheheh
Bet you didn't see THAT on Fauxsmell . . .
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1) Who is more deserving of the American people's tax dollars? The Iraqi's or the American people? What ever happened to "patriotism"? Is now the love of one's own people "isolationism" in his book? Does Gringao believe in the subjugation of America to a global world order?Gringao said:
2) Why does Gringao want the poor in America to beg at the private charity house, but yet he wants the working class to pony up by means of forcible confiscation of wealth (taxes) to support the better health and welfare of the Iraqi's?
3) If Iraq's freedom is so necessary, why not let the private market - the mercenaries, and the privately run charity telethons - finance their liberation? Gringao wants this nightmare for America, why does the rest of the world deserve first class treatment at the expense of confiscating Americans' wealth? I thought he was against forcible confiscation of wealth, and his support of "liberating Iraq" is a clear and undeniable contradiction of his ideals.
Peregrinator
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Borscht said:
Um, I'm in the National Guard now. I said willie pete or illum rounds. The question is what the target was, I think, not whether it's still in the arsenal.
Ishmael
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Peregrinator said:
The problem is that these assholes haven't considered that military technology has progressed far beyond their knowledge or ability to even consider same.
WP was effective against dug in troops up to the end of Viet Nam. As world opinion turned against it's use as an anti-personel weapon the military found other, more effective, methods of dealing with that problem.
However, WP still remains the most cost effective method of producing smoke and illumination.
But you're correct. Without considering the manner in which it is used, it's just another talking point. <shrug>
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