Who has fucked a animal

[entitled]

I guess I can see how you could argue that it is taking advantage of ignorance. It just seems to me that these animal are naturally inclined to do this. In most cases the person didn't try to trick the animal into doing it, the animal just came and did it out of the blue. So I can't see how letting the animal do what it is naturally inclined to do is harming it in any way.

i agree that some could easily take zoo behavior as taking advantage of the less intelligent, as most people are smarter than animals. Then again, there are those who are just dumb as a post.

As limited as it is, it has been my experience that the animals honestly do come to the person and did what came/comes naturally. Pardon the pun. There is no harm done to the animal. In fact, there could very well be more harm to the person involved. Thank You for putting it so gracefully.

 

[entitled]

Re: I can't believe this thread

This is SICK!

Anything beyond heavy petting is simply disgusting.

Yes, I know when a sheep teases and twirls that thang it's hard to control but COME ON have some self-respect.

To quote myself from an earlier post:

"Third, to whoever it was that said We bring Ourselves down by doing this: You don't know shit. This is NOT about demeaning Ourselves any more than sleeping with another human being is. Many people do it just for lust, which is fine. Then there's those of Us that do/would consider doing things with animals because We love them and feel that in some way it's very fulfilling. Quite literally at times. It does not take Us down a level and does not put the animals above Us in any sense (other than when We're literally under the critter if they mount). It's not Our problem that You can't deal with the fact that We're a little different in Our views on the subject. Just deal with it and move on."

In other words, We can look in the mirror and respect ourselves. It's people like You - the ones that simply cannot handle the fact that some of us are different - that should learn to look deeper.

 

[Felicia4411]

i agree that some could easily take zoo behavior as taking advantage of the less intelligent, as most people are smarter than animals. Then again, there are those who are just dumb as a post.

As limited as it is, it has been my experience that the animals honestly do come to the person and did what came/comes naturally. Pardon the pun. There is no harm done to the animal. In fact, there could very well be more harm to the person involved. Thank You for putting it so gracefully.

I really appreciate that you took the time to try and clear things up for me. I personally don't think it's wrong, I've never done it so therefore I don't think I should judge it. I had just been reading Sexy Sparkles posts and wasn't clear on what kind of harm she thought this was doing to the animals.
I agree with you that there is no harm done to the animal (as far as I can tell) and the person is the only one taking a risk.

 

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[entitled]

I really appreciate that you took the time to try and clear things up for me. I personally don't think it's wrong, I've never done it so therefore I don't think I should judge it. I had just been reading Sexy Sparkles posts and wasn't clear on what kind of harm she thought this was doing to the animals.
I agree with you that there is no harm done to the animal (as far as I can tell) and the person is the only one taking a risk.

No problem. Just don't take my word as that of an expert. It's been years since my last experience with an animal, and even that was just oral. Also, thank You for not being so judgemental on the topic.

 

[entitled]

WHAT???? ok ok, so if someone fucks a chimpanzee, will you get a human?

If we are speaking evolution here, the species evolved as whole, NOT from one evolving, then having sex with one that hadnt.

*laughs* No, no, no... That's my lack of ability to get the point across, though. i'll try to be a little more clear.

i was trying to talk about evolution. It didn't work. my fault. Yes, we evolved as a species. However, there had to be ONE to start with. Just one. One that was a little different, a little more advanced. This one had sex with one of the leftovers - an animal. That made another. Then another, and another, until from the one there came a species. i'm not trying to say that if a person were to fuck a chimp now a human would be born from it. When the species was just beginning, however, there was no other alternative. It still all came from that one (or one in the area, or whatever).

i apologize for muddling my words and such. i'm an idiot that way a lot and need to be reminded of it.

 

[SexySparkles]

Humans evolved over thousands of years. It's not like there was a present day person screwing a monkey.

And I DO have my facts straight. Just because someone, or an animal is willing to do something, doesn't mean you should take advantage of that, does it?

You said that the parents use it. And so what if a different species of animal initiates it? Most of the time children, namely boys are interesed in breasts. They often look up skirts. Does that mean we should just say "Oh, they initiated it, so it's alright". Good luck with that one in court.

And the animals very well could have psychological damage.

 

[entitled]

Humans evolved over thousands of years. It's not like there was a present day person screwing a monkey.

And I DO have my facts straight. Just because someone, or an animal is willing to do something, doesn't mean you should take advantage of that, does it?

You said that the parents use it. And so what if a different species of animal initiates it? Most of the time children, namely boys are interesed in breasts. They often look up skirts. Does that mean we should just say "Oh, they initiated it, so it's alright". Good luck with that one in court.

And the animals very well could have psychological damage.

Once again i suggest You reread posts. Namely the one just above Yours. Other than that, i - for one - forgive You for being such an obviously narrow-minded person. It's a shame that people like You simply cannot accept the fact that others derive pleasure from something a little different from what others think is acceptable. i'm not claiming to be perfect in that department. Not by a long shot. However, i do try to see it from the other person's point of view before simply saying 'that's something that's not for me' and moving on with life.

 

[James G 5]

Check Your previous posts. i'm quoting here: "It's my opinion that anyone that takes part in this sort of activity should be sentanced to the same punishment as child abusers." Seems somebody is disputing themself.

Goodie, I'm not the only one who noticed

 

[SexySparkles]

The cries of a defeted person. As stated before, I'm one of the most liberal people in the world. I just think that humans should have enough fucking commom sense to know that some things are just plain wrong.

 

[James G 5]

The cries of a defeted person. As stated before, I'm one of the most liberal people in the world. I just think that humans should have enough fucking commom sense to know that some things are just plain wrong.

WHY are they wrong?
Prove the harm
It's demonstrable that innapropriate sexual activity with children is harmful
Show some evidence that it would be bad for the animal
YOU find it repugnant, therefore you asset it's "just plain wrong"

I haven't decided one way or another, but I haven't seen you offer any solid argument

 

[entitled]

The cries of a defeted person. As stated before, I'm one of the most liberal people in the world. I just think that humans should have enough fucking commom sense to know that some things are just plain wrong.

Actually, that's the statement of somebody who's smart enough to know when they're arguing a point to an idiot that's convinced that their way is the only way. It's simply not worth the time or energy it takes anymore.

 

[pw96]

I hear your cries!

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Originally posted by SexySparkles
The cries of a defeted person. As stated before, I'm one of the most liberal people in the world. I just think that humans should have enough fucking commom sense to know that some things are just plain wrong.

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Your one of the MOST liberal people in the world?

I'd Hate to run into someone more uptight and repressed!

Again! This is a ZOO thread!

If you don't approve, GO AWAY!

Go find the " under the sheet whackers" or whatever it is that turns your sparkles sexy!

What is just plain Wrong, is repressed, sexualy frustrated sparkles that try to influence others into joining them under the sheet!

 

[Native Alien]

sexysparkles, i just have two questions for you:

1.) on what scientific evidence, research, or other credible source are you basing your opinion on?

2.) we all know that electrons make electricity, so it would seem that morons are now making the morality decisions for us all. are you one of them?

 

[SexySparkles]

Because the people are probably doing some psychological damage to the animals. Oh, they're of a different species so that okay, right?

And nope. I'm smart as hell. 4.0 GPA, thanks. Although I can tell some of you are probably high school drop outs.

 

[Native Alien]

i don't know who you are calling a high school dropout but that is beside the point. Mensa member then? because i am.

you show or cite no credible source of information to back up your claims that any kind of damage at all is being done to any animal. and i notice that you use the word probably in that statement.

you just bust into a legitimate thread and start spewing your morality at others. if you don't like the subject, if it bothers you, if it contradicts what you believe then just don't bother to post or even read it.

 

[entitled]

almost off topic

This reminds me of a conversation i once had with a fundamentalist Christian. This person was so convinced that they were right and i was wrong that they absolutely refused to believe even the most basic facts that can be proven by looking at religious history. This is not meant to make people mad. If You are easily offended by religious discussions, please stop now. If You don't mind a story:

One day, a door-to-door bible thumper came knocking. i was the only one home at the time. With me being the proverbial 98-lb. weakling (quite literally) and this person being about twice as big as i was, it was proving to be a little difficult for me to get him to leave without threatening him with the .22 that happened to be by the door for such occasions. With that thought in mind, i kept the screen door closed and started a conversation with this man. It went something like this:

"Have you found God? Have you read the holiest book of them all and accepted Jesus into your life as your light and savior?"

"Yep. i found God, and have found the concept of the Christian God to be incomplete. i've also read the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and have decided to think for myself. Jesus was nothing more than a very smart man that could manipulate the masses. No kind of savior there. Reminded me of Hitler, actually."

"How DARE you compare the light of the world to such an evil man!"

*insert cheeky grin here* "The same way Christianity dared to distort the pagan rites and rituals, and steal the pagan holy days, then claim them as their own."

"Christianity never did anything of the sort! It was the pagans, the heathens, that stole OUR holidays and OUR teachings and twisted them to the use of the devil!"

"That's crazy. Paganism was in effect long before whoever came up with Christianity was even thought of."

"But God - the real God - thought of everything before any of us were created."

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. By the end of the conversation i was laughing so hard i could barely stand up. He cursed me in the name of the Holy Father and all that rot then went on to the next victim.

What does this story have to do with this thread? Well, i learned something from that conversation. i learned that no matter how misguided some people are, they will argue until the sun goes down (quite literally - we were there for over three hours) and still have nothing to go on but their own views and opinions. It doesn't matter how many facts or how many sources the other person has, they refuse to listen. They're either too stupid or too narrow-minded to realize that the more they talk the more idiotic they make themselves out to be. That certainly reminds me of a certain sparkly person that's been contributing in their own feeble way to this thread.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

There is no way to have a reasoned debate about this. For the animal fuckers, there is a fetishized attraction to animals. For the rest of us, there is an automatic knee-jerk disgust. It is hard for either side to really understand the other...I personally wouldn't fuck an animal, but if some woman wants to get pounded by, say, a German Shepherd, I don't see how the dog is hurt.

 

[SexySparkles]

I'm not even Christian. God was made up to make the people feel safe...

Gotta get back to school now. I'll come discuss after school. Have a nice day!

 

[Felicia4411]

I have to agree with the majority of people posting on here. You have a right to your opinion Sparkles but you have to concede that it is just an opinion. You're assuming or guessing that the animal is in some way harmed by these actions but you don't have any proof that you're right. It's possible the animal is being harmed but in my opinion I don't think it is. So I don't see the point of your arguments. You obviously think this is wrong so why are you posting your arguments here? You can't expect anyone to change their thinking and come to your way of thinking when you have nothing more than your opinions to give them. If you're so determined to change people's mind on this topic I'd suggest you go find some facts that back up your claims of abuse and post those. Otherwise it seems like you're just wasting your time writing posts that will continue to fall on deaf ears.

 

[entitled]

I'm not even Christian. God was made up to make the people feel safe...

Gotta get back to school now. I'll come discuss after school. Have a nice day!

You also missed the whole point of the story. Sounds like You really DO need the schooling.

 

[SexySparkles]

I didn't even get to read it. I just saw you talking about God... Add that and the fact that you're the one who typed it, and I didn't think it was worth wasting my time.

You're all blabbing about "WHERE UR PROOF HOW U NO IT HURT TEH ANIMALS///?////?" I dunno. I'm not gonna waste my time debating. Because it would be pretty much one sided. If one of you puts forth the effort to show me it DOESN'T hurt animals, I'll be more than willing to research and debate with you.

 

[Felicia4411]

I had no idea I was blabbing, my mistake. It's true that someone else on here could get proof that this doesn't harm the animals. The only reason I suggested that you get proof was that you were the one who kept posting about how you had a problem with this that you should get the proof. This thread was started to talk about people who'd fucked or had any kind of sexual experiences with animals, not to prove that sexual relations with an animal were in no way harmful to the animal. So I figured if you wanted to debate it and be taken seriously you'd maybe want to get some proof. But I'm glad you're moving on, that way you won't be wasting anymore of your time and hopefully this thread will go back to what it was originally started for.

 

[pw96]

If electrons make electricity, then do morons make morality?"

Proof?

How about an animal that has free run.
Returns to "perform" on it's own.

In the far East, they EAT dogs.

I think it's a lot better for the K9 to eat pussy!

This started as a fantasy thread.. about zoo stories.
But thanks to sparkles, it has fallen to a defense of freedom of speech and thought.

Morality like that was rampant in Germany , 1930's.

Only NOW, ( in the name of homeland defense) we have the technology to inplant devices to police the population.

I can only hope that sexysparkles is the first to have her actions
(under her sheets ) monitored!

 

[KingDingaling]

Re: almost off topic

This reminds me of a conversation i once had with a fundamentalist Christian. This person was so convinced that they were right and i was wrong that they absolutely refused to believe even the most basic facts that can be proven by looking at religious history. This is not meant to make people mad. If You are easily offended by religious discussions, please stop now. If You don't mind a story:

One day, a door-to-door bible thumper came knocking. i was the only one home at the time. With me being the proverbial 98-lb. weakling (quite literally) and this person being about twice as big as i was, it was proving to be a little difficult for me to get him to leave without threatening him with the .22 that happened to be by the door for such occasions. With that thought in mind, i kept the screen door closed and started a conversation with this man. It went something like this:

"Have you found God? Have you read the holiest book of them all and accepted Jesus into your life as your light and savior?"

"Yep. i found God, and have found the concept of the Christian God to be incomplete. i've also read the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and have decided to think for myself. Jesus was nothing more than a very smart man that could manipulate the masses. No kind of savior there. Reminded me of Hitler, actually."

"How DARE you compare the light of the world to such an evil man!"

*insert cheeky grin here* "The same way Christianity dared to distort the pagan rites and rituals, and steal the pagan holy days, then claim them as their own."

"Christianity never did anything of the sort! It was the pagans, the heathens, that stole OUR holidays and OUR teachings and twisted them to the use of the devil!"

"That's crazy. Paganism was in effect long before whoever came up with Christianity was even thought of."

"But God - the real God - thought of everything before any of us were created."

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. By the end of the conversation i was laughing so hard i could barely stand up. He cursed me in the name of the Holy Father and all that rot then went on to the next victim.

What does this story have to do with this thread? Well, i learned something from that conversation. i learned that no matter how misguided some people are, they will argue until the sun goes down (quite literally - we were there for over three hours) and still have nothing to go on but their own views and opinions. It doesn't matter how many facts or how many sources the other person has, they refuse to listen. They're either too stupid or too narrow-minded to realize that the more they talk the more idiotic they make themselves out to be. That certainly reminds me of a certain sparkly person that's been contributing in their own feeble way to this thread.

A wise man once said never argue with an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.