Who Decides What Misinformation Is?

[Rightguide]

Harvard Study: Misinformation 'Experts' a Bunch of Leftists​

DAVID STROM 12:30 PM | March 25, 2024

No doubt many of the people who make these judgments actually believe them to be good ones, because they begin with the belief that their vision of the good is superior to yours, so they should be in charge of deciding what you believe for your own good. Others don't care whether it is good for you or not, because their only concern is what is good for them.

They are all Left-wing. The modal "disinformation expert" classifies himself as "fairly left-wing," and 85% of them classify themselves as at least somewhat left-wing.

It is quite possible to be left-wing and honest, but it is impossible to have an ideologically homogenous group whose job it is to determine "truth" to be unbiased. When everybody begins the process with a set of biases, those biases get reinforced rather than challenged. When everybody in the same room agrees at the beginning, everybody in that room will come to the same conclusion.

And that's if you assume everybody has goodwill, which in a politically charged environment is a rather generous assumption. I don't assume that to be the case when I walk into a room of Republican politicians, and given what I know about how political debates take place I am quite confident that isn't true of anybody else trying to convince people of a position.



Moore here: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024...ormation-experts-a-bunch-of-leftists-n3785263

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.e...ltay_survey_expert_views_misinfo_20230727.pdf

It turns out that the judges of "misinformation" are those who create most of it.

 

[Rotadom]

Do you believe "Leftist Harvard" or "Leftist Experts?"

https://media.tenor.com/FpJGKzaLNj0AAAAj/i%27m-struggling-with-it-nik-nocturnal.gif

 

[Rightguide]

Do you believe "Leftist Harvard" or "Leftist Experts?"

https://media.tenor.com/FpJGKzaLNj0AAAAj/i%27m-struggling-with-it-nik-nocturnal.gif

The point is, even leftist Harvard knows they create the most misinformation.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Why did they put the left-leaning bars on the right side of the graph.


Oh, I know. It must be Stage Left.

 

[Rightguide]

You decide, and so do I. That's why freedom of speech is so important and censorship so damaging.

True but many of the young are lacking in experience of separating truth from fiction and rely on these "experts" for their information. This board is full of them.

 

[Rightguide]

Why did they put the left-leaning bars on the right side of the graph.


Oh, I know. It must be Stage Left.

I thought that strange as well, but your explanation is as good as any other.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I thought that strange as well, but your explanation is as good as any other.

Just like them, I made that shit up outta whole cloth.

 

[Rotadom]

The point is, even leftist Harvard knows they create the most misinformation.

Where in your article did Harvard come to that conclusion?

 

[YDB95]

Where in your article did Harvard come to that conclusion?

We both know he either didn't read the whole link, or read it but failed to grasp the point it was really making. It happens every time.

 

[Rotadom]

We both know he either didn't read the whole link, or read it but failed to grasp the point it was really making. It happens every time.

The best is when he doesn't read the article that he posted, blames the Left but it turns out it was a fellow MAGAt at fault.

 

[Lazaran]

Harvard Study: Misinformation 'Experts' a Bunch of Leftists​

DAVID STROM 12:30 PM | March 25, 2024

No doubt many of the people who make these judgments actually believe them to be good ones, because they begin with the belief that their vision of the good is superior to yours, so they should be in charge of deciding what you believe for your own good. Others don't care whether it is good for you or not, because their only concern is what is good for them.

They are all Left-wing. The modal "disinformation expert" classifies himself as "fairly left-wing," and 85% of them classify themselves as at least somewhat left-wing.

It is quite possible to be left-wing and honest, but it is impossible to have an ideologically homogenous group whose job it is to determine "truth" to be unbiased. When everybody begins the process with a set of biases, those biases get reinforced rather than challenged. When everybody in the same room agrees at the beginning, everybody in that room will come to the same conclusion.

And that's if you assume everybody has goodwill, which in a politically charged environment is a rather generous assumption. I don't assume that to be the case when I walk into a room of Republican politicians, and given what I know about how political debates take place I am quite confident that isn't true of anybody else trying to convince people of a position.

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Moore here: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024...ormation-experts-a-bunch-of-leftists-n3785263

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.e...ltay_survey_expert_views_misinfo_20230727.pdf

It turns out that the judges of "misinformation" are those who create most of it.

^
(Quotes for posterity and stupidity)

Is it the left’s fault that most right leaning people are low education individuals who aren’t qualified to be experts in anything except bullshit (literal and figurative)???



"Right"guide

 

[Rotadom]

Harvard Study: Misinformation 'Experts' a Bunch of Leftists​

DAVID STROM 12:30 PM | March 25, 2024

No doubt many of the people who make these judgments actually believe them to be good ones, because they begin with the belief that their vision of the good is superior to yours, so they should be in charge of deciding what you believe for your own good. Others don't care whether it is good for you or not, because their only concern is what is good for them.

They are all Left-wing. The modal "disinformation expert" classifies himself as "fairly left-wing," and 85% of them classify themselves as at least somewhat left-wing.

It is quite possible to be left-wing and honest, but it is impossible to have an ideologically homogenous group whose job it is to determine "truth" to be unbiased. When everybody begins the process with a set of biases, those biases get reinforced rather than challenged. When everybody in the same room agrees at the beginning, everybody in that room will come to the same conclusion.

And that's if you assume everybody has goodwill, which in a politically charged environment is a rather generous assumption. I don't assume that to be the case when I walk into a room of Republican politicians, and given what I know about how political debates take place I am quite confident that isn't true of anybody else trying to convince people of a position.

View attachment 2331621

Moore here: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024...ormation-experts-a-bunch-of-leftists-n3785263

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.e...ltay_survey_expert_views_misinfo_20230727.pdf

It turns out that the judges of "misinformation" are those who create most of it.

You're the guy who perpetuates election fraud lies along with misidentifying mass shooters, yes?

 

[PaxNurgle]

Here's the thing.
Either something is true or it isn't.
Either it is factual, or it is fiction. If it's neither, then it's just speculation or theory- and if that's the case, sometimes the theory is proven correct, sometimes it is debunked.

NOBODY- left or right- gets to decide what is "Fact" or "Fiction." This is the key point, so I'll repeat it:
Nobody- on the "left" or the "Right" gets to decide what is fact or fiction.

So, to claim that misinformation "Experts" are "A bunch of leftists" is an idiotic statement AT BEST. Leftists do not have a monopoly on truth any more than rightists.

Unfortunately what happens all too often is, someone, usually either a public figure or a questionable news source, will make a false statement. Someone else will come along and prove, without a reasonable doubt, that this statement is incorrect.

However, people who make such statements tell people what they want to hear, and these same people cannot accept that such statements are debunked becuase they WANT to believe it. I want, desparately, to believe that St. Mary's has a chance to win the NCAA tournament and that San Francisco rightfully won the Super Bowl. So, if the St. Mary's dean, or the San Francisco Chronicle claimed that yes, St. Mary's college did not lose in the first round and that Kansas City "Cheated" and thus, the 49ers are the true Super Bowl champions, then of COURSE I'd want to believe it.

But neither statement is true. If such statements can be debunked- and they easily can be- that is not the fault of the "Leftists" or anyone else.

And here you have the O.P who has this fantasy of an iron-fisted totalitarian, corrupt Apartheid style government. Led by an individual who frequently lies and manipulates people through false statements. These statements are easily debunked- not because the debunkers are "Leftists" but because they were never true statements to begin with.

I am really trying to explain this as clearly as possible, since some people have trouble understanding this concept (hopefully this clears it up for them.)

 

[PaxNurgle]

True but many of the young are lacking in experience of separating truth from fiction and rely on these "experts" for their information. This board is full of them.

You, my friend, are by far the worst offenders in this case. Please read my post above to understand why. You may not even realize it.

You need unbiased sources of information. Yet instead you seek out only propaganda pieces masquerading as "News" which are under no obligation to be factual- because you want your extreme (and highly unpopular) views to be validated, not because you want the Truth.

Because, the point is... you cannot handle the truth when it contradicts your extreme and unpopular beliefs. So, you blame a falsely perceived "liberal bias."

 

[dkovic77]

Harvard Study: Misinformation 'Experts' a Bunch of Leftists​

DAVID STROM 12:30 PM | March 25, 2024

No doubt many of the people who make these judgments actually believe them to be good ones, because they begin with the belief that their vision of the good is superior to yours, so they should be in charge of deciding what you believe for your own good. Others don't care whether it is good for you or not, because their only concern is what is good for them.

They are all Left-wing. The modal "disinformation expert" classifies himself as "fairly left-wing," and 85% of them classify themselves as at least somewhat left-wing.

It is quite possible to be left-wing and honest, but it is impossible to have an ideologically homogenous group whose job it is to determine "truth" to be unbiased. When everybody begins the process with a set of biases, those biases get reinforced rather than challenged. When everybody in the same room agrees at the beginning, everybody in that room will come to the same conclusion.

And that's if you assume everybody has goodwill, which in a politically charged environment is a rather generous assumption. I don't assume that to be the case when I walk into a room of Republican politicians, and given what I know about how political debates take place I am quite confident that isn't true of anybody else trying to convince people of a position.

View attachment 2331621

Moore here: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024...ormation-experts-a-bunch-of-leftists-n3785263

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.e...ltay_survey_expert_views_misinfo_20230727.pdf

It turns out that the judges of "misinformation" are those who create most of it.

How could I miss this one? So your biased wrong wing site has a graph?
“Not quite un biased”?

Comical how their first recruitment strategy was looking for folks who use the words “fake news” in google scholar. No way that could ever lead to a biased sample.

And of course you like it because out of the 150 sampled, there were only 51 women. You, of course, would be happier if there were much fewer since what do they know about anything?

The part where researchers say that since they didn’t use gender in their data analysis the gender breakdown didn’t have impact is comical as well.

But this seems just like the research methods you and your wrong warped view friends would love. Presenting the set up of this to anyone say, age 6, would show there is something unfair.

-Hey kids, let’s do some research. We see in the school cafeteria there are three lines. Each one serves something different. Let’s see what prefer like by only asking folks over in just this line….
“Not fair!”

The kids wouldn’t know the research terminology, but neither do you (as you make abundantly clear with every thread you start), so it’s okay.

But thanks for providing the whole source, because it provides the context your Cherry picked graph doesn’t. It just confirms the bias of the study. It doesn’t actually convey what you biased hot air hot head thinks it does.

Did you read it? Nope. You still liked the graph since it says what you think you wanted it to say.

Surprised you didn’t use the one with the left on the left, confuses fewer of your knuckle draggers. (As if they would ask that question anyway, “yeah, why isn’t the left on the left!)

Please do partake in a great film, Idiocracy.

“Brawndo, it’s what plants crave!, it’s got electrolytes!”

Oh did you suddenly just think you wanted some Brawndo? Poor small minded Wrongguide.

Maybe you will wake up one day?

Doubtful. (But comical, and a little sad)

 

[Chobham]

Harvard Study: Misinformation 'Experts' a Bunch of Leftists​

DAVID STROM 12:30 PM | March 25, 2024

No doubt many of the people who make these judgments actually believe them to be good ones, because they begin with the belief that their vision of the good is superior to yours, so they should be in charge of deciding what you believe for your own good. Others don't care whether it is good for you or not, because their only concern is what is good for them.

They are all Left-wing. The modal "disinformation expert" classifies himself as "fairly left-wing," and 85% of them classify themselves as at least somewhat left-wing.

It is quite possible to be left-wing and honest, but it is impossible to have an ideologically homogenous group whose job it is to determine "truth" to be unbiased. When everybody begins the process with a set of biases, those biases get reinforced rather than challenged. When everybody in the same room agrees at the beginning, everybody in that room will come to the same conclusion.

And that's if you assume everybody has goodwill, which in a politically charged environment is a rather generous assumption. I don't assume that to be the case when I walk into a room of Republican politicians, and given what I know about how political debates take place I am quite confident that isn't true of anybody else trying to convince people of a position.

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Moore here: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024...ormation-experts-a-bunch-of-leftists-n3785263

https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.e...ltay_survey_expert_views_misinfo_20230727.pdf

It turns out that the judges of "misinformation" are those who create most of it.

What's scary is that we have at least one Supreme Court Justice that thinks government control of the media (censorship) is perfectly fine.

 

[icanhelp1]

Just like them, I made that shit up outta whole cloth.

 

[icanhelp1]

^
(Quotes for posterity and stupidity)

Is it the left’s fault that most right leaning people are low education individuals who aren’t qualified to be experts in anything except bullshit (literal and figurative)???



"Right"guide

You just proved his point with that statement. Disinformation on steroids.

 

[icanhelp1]

What's scary is that we have at least one Supreme Court Justice that thinks government control of the media (censorship) is perfectly fine.

The lefty lunes believe that if they control the media, suppress free speech then in their mind they hold the moral high ground and they’re never wrong. They’re content to live in their delusional dystopia.

 

[goldytheGoldfish]

Why did they put the left-leaning bars on the right side of the graph.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

What's scary is that we have at least one Supreme Court Justice that thinks government control of the media (censorship) is perfectly fine.

Well you should be cheering that person then. Maybe they can shut down the misinformation you claim the mainstream media is always using....isn't the SCOTUS now Rightwing dominated?

 

[MajorRewrite]

Who decides what misinformation is?

I asked our reptilian alien overlords, and they say they have the final say about what is misinformation. They use Jewish space lasers to punish those who spread misinformation.

Question answered.

 

[goldytheGoldfish]

Question answered.

 

[ll74]

If you don't trust authorities, then someone fact checking doesn't matter because you already don't trust their status as authorities.

So when your doctor tells you not to eat lead paint, you may eat lead paint.

 

[Chobham]

If you don't trust authorities, then someone fact checking doesn't matter because you already don't trust their status as authorities.

So when your doctor tells you not to eat lead paint, you may eat lead paint.

"Authority" should never be trusted at ANY time.

Doctors do not issue orders, they render opinions. Are you aware that more Americans are killed annually by their doctors than auto accidents AND firearms combined?