Whistleblower

[RobDownSouth]

Another good read

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dail...cndid=26099613&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

I'm going to go on record and predict that Moscow Mitch McMassmurder will do everything in his power to prevent a public roll call vote on impeachment conviction in the Senate.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'm going to go on record and predict that Moscow Mitch McMassmurder will do everything in his power to prevent a public roll call vote on impeachment conviction in the Senate.

I would have said the same two days ago.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Those are six of ten Republicans who didn't read either the call transcript or the whistleblower charge. With luck those are six of ten Republicans who will be out of a political job in the next election--and maybe on a boat to some other country.

Yes, and 0-10 lit right wingers clearly haven’t read them either.

 

[pointless]

State Dept inspector general requests 'urgent' Ukraine briefing on Capitol Hill

 

[Aglaopheme]

State Dept inspector general requests 'urgent' Ukraine briefing on Capitol Hill

Less than an hour after Pomapeo said the SD would not cooperate, and mere hours after the DOJ said they could say for sure if the WH would secure the related documents.

 

[doowdniw]

I know a USAG has gone to prison for obstruction in the past. Has a Secretary of State?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Soon Faux News, Limbaugh and Breitbart will have nothing left to cover.

Poll: Only 4 in 10 Republicans think Trump mentioned Biden on Ukraine call even though he acknowledged doing so


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3829338002?__twitter_impression=true

They should run the poll again and replace "Trump" with "Obama".

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I'm going to go on record and predict that Moscow Mitch McMassmurder will do everything in his power to prevent a public roll call vote on impeachment conviction in the Senate.

Didn't he say something like he has to bring it up by the Senate rules but that it didn't mean when or "for how" long or something like that?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I know a USAG has gone to prison for obstruction in the past. Has a Secretary of State?

Nah.... elite (D)'z so are above the law, even when the FBI busts them and publicly lists the crimes.

 

[KeithD]

I'm going to go on record and predict that Moscow Mitch McMassmurder will do everything in his power to prevent a public roll call vote on impeachment conviction in the Senate.

A secret vote would be just dandy.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm going to go on record and predict that Moscow Mitch McMassmurder will do everything in his power to prevent a public roll call vote on impeachment conviction in the Senate.

Mitch has no choice in the matter. In a Presidential impeachment trial, the Chief Justice presides.

 

[zipman]

Why should they fear that. The whistle blower act would protect them.
If it’s safe for a second party then why not the person who has first hand knowledge. I’m talking about ancillary staff and not cabinet members. Pretty cowardly to pawn that responsibility off to a second party. Smells of Party politics and a few Trump haters. Obama would have gone insane with rage and on several occasions prosecuted leakers.

Maybe the whistleblower is a more senior level staff person who felt more comfortable raising the red flag. I really don't know.

You can believe what you want but I certainly wouldn't rule out that they are just a patriotic civil servant disgusted by Trump's abuse of power.

 

[doowdniw]

Nah.... elite (D)'z so are above the law, even when the FBI busts them and publicly lists the crimes.

Names and crimes?

 

[doowdniw]

What’s in the box, dick? Anyone else believe that the WH will not destroy records?

Federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson held a hearing today on whether to intervene immediately in the Trump administration's record-keeping practices, especially regarding calls/mtgs between Trump and foreign leaders

“DOJ couldn't yet say in court that the WH would preserve all records related to Trump's calls with foreign leaders--yet they added that they don't believe there's a risk the WH would destroy records.

Judge told them to say for sure by tomorrow.“

https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1179125295816818688?s=21

My money is on the paper shredder/burner working overtime tonight.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Names and crimes?

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Comey lists the crimes of H. R. Clinton, admits if this was anyone else they'd be getting hammered all the way to prison, just like all the poor little people regularly prosecuted for FAR smaller infractions 3 of which were happening at the same time and were denied the same "intent" defense Clinton was allowed to slide on because intent is irrelevant. Unless you're a rich powerful (D) that is....

No biggie though....being above the law is great as long as it's a (D).

 

[bodysong]

Anything on the second Whistleblower, and the IRS ?

 

[adrina]

Names and crimes?

The tl;dr translation of his answer: Clinton, as an evil America hating democrat, should be tried in the criminal court system for things that are usually handled with security or administrative sanctions.

 

[doowdniw]

The tl;dr translation of his answer: Clinton, as an evil America hating democrat, should be tried in the criminal court system for things that are usually handled with security or administrative sanctions.

Oh, that old saw.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Oh, that old saw.

Well, it's good for some things...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/source.gif

 

[BotanyBoy]

The tl;dr translation of his answer: Clinton, as an evil America hating democrat, should be tried in the criminal court system for things that are usually handled with security or administrative sanctions.

Security sanctions that end at Ft.Leavenworth...but hey don't let that stop you from supporting overt elitism.

Oh, that old saw.

Well, it's good for some things...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/source.gif

More partisan elitist!! Breaking the law is all good for rich (D)'z!!

 

[someoneyouknow]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/226db50e4ea5f72f3691bf96cb563ed5/tumblr_pyq1uoFwNL1rbam90o1_500.jpg

 

[adrina]

Oh, that old saw.

Yup. And still at it.

Well, it's good for some things...

https://media0.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/source.gif

Hey hey I'm in that state currently.

Security sanctions that end at Ft.Leavenworth...but hey don't let that stop you from supporting overt elitism.






More partisan elitist!! Breaking the law is all good for rich (D)'z!!

Nowhere does it say that. That's your added interpretation you want to believe. Security/administrative sanctions do not lead to Fort Leavenworth. But for you to acknowledge that reality would require you to admit you're wrong and drop that narrative.

Which we know you can't do.

Next.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nowhere does it say that.

Why don't you look up what the penalty is for stealing classified US information is.....for poor people that is.

That's your added interpretation you want to believe. Security/administrative sanctions do not lead to Fort Leavenworth.

For poor people it does. 10-20 years for an intentional disclosure.

5 years and a fine for each count of mishandling....which HRC was without a doubt guilty of.

Definition of sanction (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb

3a: to attach a sanction or penalty to the violation of (a right, obligation, or command)
… the status, procedures, rights, and duties of members are carefully defined by rules that are sanctioned by fines should they be contravened by members.

b: to impose a sanction or penalty upon

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sanction

What sanctions or penalties did HRC get for her gross violation of national security laws??

Not even the equivalent of a speeding ticket.

But for you to acknowledge that reality would require you to admit you're wrong and drop that narrative.

Which we know you can't do.

Next.

How am I wrong?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

 

[adrina]

Yup. And still at it.

But for you to acknowledge that reality would require you to admit you're wrong and drop that narrative.

Which we know you can't do.

Next.

Called it.

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

Spin spin spin. Gotta have a "them".

Remember folks:. At least half of America, if not more than - depending on the issue, hate their country and want to destroy it. In his world.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Called it.



Spin spin spin. Gotta have a "them".

It's not spin, it's the law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

Not that it means anything to you as long as a rich (D) is violating it.

Keep strutting around on the chessboard, we all know you can't admit you were wrong or that Hillary is anything less than an altruistic saint who never did ANYTHING wrong.

Remember folks:. At least half of America, if not more than - depending on the issue, hate their country and want to destroy it. In his world.

Not in my world....the real world.

If you're trying to undermine the borders, laws and rights of the people.....you clearly hate the country and are trying to destroy it. That's a fact neither you nor any of your other anti-American comrades have been able to refute.