While lameduck Obama plays hardass about possible outside election hacking...

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Obama orders 'deep dive' of election-related hacking
The White House said it would 'make public as much as we can,' but cautioned that portions would remain classified.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

...his DHS remains silent about its own election hacking:

Georgia says it's traced an attempted voter hack to the Department of Homeland Security
An IP address from the agency was the source of an attempted breach of the state's voter registration database, according to Georgia's secretary of state.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3148...ts-traced-an-attempted-voter-hack-to-dhs.html

You know, if states choose to allow the federal government access to their digital sources, that's one thing. But if the federal government chooses to act criminally, anyway, when states specifically refuse them access, then the full force of the law should come down especially heavy on the fed perps, probably even heavier than on anyone else because of the treasonous-to-republicanism political betrayal.
 
blah blah blah... I don't like Obama, progressives or liberals... blah blah blah... If I went to Politics thread no one would pay any attention to me... blah blah blah!
 
blah blah blah... I don't like Obama, progressives or liberals... blah blah blah... If I went to Politics thread no one would pay any attention to me... blah blah blah!

Why don't you like Obama?
 
Obama orders 'deep dive' of election-related hacking
The White House said it would 'make public as much as we can,' but cautioned that portions would remain classified.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

...his DHS remains silent about its own election hacking:

Georgia says it's traced an attempted voter hack to the Department of Homeland Security
An IP address from the agency was the source of an attempted breach of the state's voter registration database, according to Georgia's secretary of state.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3148...ts-traced-an-attempted-voter-hack-to-dhs.html

You know, if states choose to allow the federal government access to their digital sources, that's one thing. But if the federal government chooses to act criminally, anyway, when states specifically refuse them access, then the full force of the law should come down especially heavy on the fed perps, probably even heavier than on anyone else because of the treasonous-to-republicanism political betrayal.

As his last official act, Obama will blame Hillary.
 
As his last official act, Obama will blame Hillary.

As much as the clintons and the Obamas do not like each other I think it's very curious that with all the opportunities to do so, he did not throw her under the bus. That smacks of self preservation. What does she have on him?
 
He owns Ping Pong Pizza


As much as the clintons and the Obamas do not like each other I think it's very curious that with all the opportunities to do so, he did not throw her under the bus. That smacks of self preservation. What does she have on him?
 
Russia actively worked to get Tromp elected.

Will GOP electors cast ballots for Putin's puppy?

Sure. None dare call it treason.
 
Flashback: Obama: ‘No Serious Person Thinks You Can Rig America’s Elections’



Democrats are flipping out now with the WaPo story claiming ‘Secret CIA assessment that Russia tried to influence Election for Trump’.

There have been no facts even suggesting that the vote was in anyway hacked or ‘rigged’. As Obama notes, the decentralized nature of the elections makes it virtually impossible to do it as a national effort.

Yet, we’re treated to an untestable amorphous claim from an official saying “CIA said” that Russians might have tried to influence the election to have Trump win, with no evidence as to what that might pertain, no evidence that it even has anything at all to do with the vote itself, right as the electors are getting ready to vote.

Moreover, this beat of Russian influence has been constant since the DNC hack. Yes, the Russians may(or may not have) hacked the DNC. People were aware of that. They gave it what wait they thought it deserved. It didn’t invalidate the information released which was true, and showed the DNC improperly trying to influence the election toward Hillary.
 
A: "Hillary won popular vote by almost 3 million."
B: "Comey and the Russians cost her the election."
Pick one, folks, you can't have both.
 
Obama orders 'deep dive' of election-related hacking
The White House said it would 'make public as much as we can,' but cautioned that portions would remain classified.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419
Is that a bad thing?

In any case.
Trump lies again
"These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," the Trump transition team said in a unsigned press release. "The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It's now time to move on and "Make America Great Again.'"
Three sentences, two lies.

...his DHS remains silent about its own election hacking:

Georgia says it's traced an attempted voter hack to the Department of Homeland Security
An IP address from the agency was the source of an attempted breach of the state's voter registration database, according to Georgia's secretary of state.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3148...ts-traced-an-attempted-voter-hack-to-dhs.html

You know, if states choose to allow the federal government access to their digital sources, that's one thing. But if the federal government chooses to act criminally, anyway, when states specifically refuse them access, then the full force of the law should come down especially heavy on the fed perps, probably even heavier than on anyone else because of the treasonous-to-republicanism political betrayal.
Did you read your link?

From the GA Sec State
Recently, I was made aware of a failed attempt to breach the firewall that protects Georgia's voter registration database by an IP address associated with the Department of Homeland Security. On Thursday morning, I sent a letter to DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson demanding to know why.
Three possibilities:
- The feds were trying to hack state voter registration databases
- Federal servers have been hacked a number of times. Someone had breached them again and using a machine there, tried to breach GA servers
- DHS was doing penetration testing, something many security people/organizations do.
IMO this is the most likely scenario since Kemp refused offers of assistance of the Feds to ensure the integrity of the state systems (many states did).
Sounds like they didn't need the help.
 
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Is that a bad thing?

In any case.
Trump lies again
Three sentences, two lies.

Did you read your link?

From the GA Sec StateThree possibilities:
- The feds were trying to hack state voter registration databases
- Federal servers have been hacked a number of times. Someone had breached them again and using a machine there, tried to breach GA servers
- DHS was doing penetration testing, something many security people/organizations do.
IMO this is the most likely scenario since Kemp refused offers of assistance of the Feds to ensure the integrity of the state systems (many states did).
Sounds like they didn't need the help.

The feds have absolutely no authority to do unauthorized "penetration testing" of anyone's system, let alone a soverign State's system. Someone committed a federal crime in this little endeavor. Most likely a State Crime as well.
 
The feds have absolutely no authority to do unauthorized "penetration testing" of anyone's system, let alone a soverign State's system. Someone committed a federal crime in this little endeavor. Most likely a State Crime as well.
I would hope not, but I really have no idea. I don't know every nuance of all the exemptions that DHS has for invading our privacy.

And for another take on idiot Brian ("our systems can't be hacked because there's no evidence anyone has") Kemp's accusation:

http://arstechnica.com/security/201...e-feds-tried-to-hack-georgias-voter-database/
 
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I would hope not, but I really have no idea. I don't know every nuance of all the exemptions that DHS has for invading our privacy.
Any gov't does whatever they they think they can get away with. Until courts tell them otherwise, and cops enforce the orders, you're prey.
 
- DHS was doing penetration testing, something many security people/organizations do.
IMO this is the most likely scenario since Kemp refused offers of assistance of the Feds to ensure the integrity of the state systems (many states did).
Sounds like they didn't need the help.

Except that DHS isn't even offering that as a possibility:

On Friday afternoon DHS initiated a conference call with members of Georgia’s congressional delegation to discuss the cyber-attack, a Capitol Hill staffer with knowledge of the call told LifeZette.

DHS officials said on the call that there were two possible explanations for the hack, the source said. Either a malicious third-party mirrored the DHS IP address linked to the hack — or someone within the department executed the attempted infiltration without authorization. DHS is currently investigating both possibilities.

Exclusive: DHS Says Georgia Hack May Have Been Rogue Employee
Officials tell members of Congress the attack on state firewall could have been inside job
http://www*****zette.com/polizette/exclusive-dhs-admits-georgia-hack-may-inside-job/

DHS is denying any agency involvement in, or knowledge of the failed hack: their "two possible explanations" only include "malicious third party" mirroring and/or rogue "infiltration without authorization."

If DHS was public servicingly "doing penetration testing, something many security people/organizations do", why wouldn't they simply cop to that? Instead, they obviously intend to play this as a "third party" violation and now maintain they are investigating whom the culprit is.

This tells me it was the DHS, because instead of just copping to what would most likely be nothing but a hand slap for condemnation - and business as usual after that - they're doing classic facade because they're nothing but chronic deceivers, first.

Last week or the week before, the feds publicly - LOUDLY - proclaimed victory over a nefarious network of malware distributors and cyber money launderers worldwide, and every piece I read on it - and I intentionally tried to read as many as possible - they just as LOUDLY announced that computers once infected with any of the malicious malware menued under Operation Avalanche were still infected with it, and that they should visit here so their computers could be scanned:

https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA16-336A

Edward Snowden instructs that that vast majority of American federal government-implanted malware is almost totally undetectable; FBI Director Comey and Director of National Intelligence Clapper BOTH insist that American federal law enforcement needs free access to every nook and cranny on the internet to keep America secure and safe. Microsoft and almost innumerable other outfits are on the record as intimately cooperating with the federal government's longing for full intrusion capability.

So, what easier way to inject malware into someone's computer than hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of users dutifully going to a government website and clicking on a government approved link which not just acts like it's scanning a user's computer, but also plants a backdoor?

Snowden's testimony is that the US government has pulled that same ploy over and over again throughout the years with other strategies - only a naive believer in, "We're from the government; trust us" cannot be totally suspicious and almost totally distrustful of anything the American federal government says.

That's the result of flat-out lying to intentionally deceive: whether it's true or not in any particular situation, the cancer of chronic deception eventually infects every situation.
 
An employee in the department who worked far removed from cybersecurity operations visited the Georgia secretary of state's website for his work, an official told The Associated Press. The employee's system was configured in a way that caused Georgia's outside security vendor to misinterpret the visit as a scan of its systems. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because this person was not authorized to publicly discuss preliminary findings.

...The employee told investigators that he was checking the state website to determine whether an individual had a certain type of professional license issued by the state. Due to the way the employee's computer was configured, it appeared his computer was scanning the state system, which can be interpreted as a prelude to a hacking attempt, the official said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c82...close-solving-mystery-alleged-hacking-georgia

What a total boatload of horse crap.
 
What a total boatload of horse crap.

You don't belive in coincidences?

DHS asks for a peek, Georgia says, explicitly, no thanks.

Random DHS employee wanders in, totes not in the cyber-sleuthing business happens to have a computer that accidently looks like it is cyber-sleuthing...
 
Flashback: Obama: ‘No Serious Person Thinks You Can Rig America’s Elections’



Democrats are flipping out now with the WaPo story claiming ‘Secret CIA assessment that Russia tried to influence Election for Trump’.

There have been no facts even suggesting that the vote was in anyway hacked or ‘rigged’. As Obama notes, the decentralized nature of the elections makes it virtually impossible to do it as a national effort.

Yet, we’re treated to an untestable amorphous claim from an official saying “CIA said” that Russians might have tried to influence the election to have Trump win, with no evidence as to what that might pertain, no evidence that it even has anything at all to do with the vote itself, right as the electors are getting ready to vote.

Moreover, this beat of Russian influence has been constant since the DNC hack. Yes, the Russians may(or may not have) hacked the DNC. People were aware of that. They gave it what wait they thought it deserved. It didn’t invalidate the information released which was true, and showed the DNC improperly trying to influence the election toward Hillary.

A: "Hillary won popular vote by almost 3 million."
B: "Comey and the Russians cost her the election."
Pick one, folks, you can't have both.

For a very long time, the Democrats here and in the media have been scoffing at claims of voter fraud, but lose an election and suddenly it is a very real and pervasive phenomenon guided by nefarious players in a rogue nation...

;) ;)

Four years of fervent belief that "the election was stolen." Just look at the popular vote!

It will be lovelynice and the 9-11 conspiracy all over again!
 
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You don't belive in coincidences?

DHS asks for a peek, Georgia says, explicitly, no thanks.

Random DHS employee wanders in, totes not in the cyber-sleuthing business happens to have a computer that accidently looks like it is cyber-sleuthing...

We are supposed to believe that there was no way that Hillary was hacked (by Russia) but that the election most surely was (by Russia)...

:nods:
 
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