Which part of this don't some of you understand?

[miles]

In the past week, Iraq has destroyed 40 of its 100 Al Samoud 2 missiles, prohibited by the United Nations because some tests indicated they could fly farther than a U.N.-imposed limit of 93 miles. It also has been destroying equipment used to make them

Blix also documented lingering questions about Iraqi weapons program in a 173-page dossier, which said Baghdad may still possess about 10,000 liters of anthrax, Scud missile warheads and drones capable of flying far beyond a 93-mile limit.

Very nice. These are the missiles Iraq claimed they didn't have. Even Blix knows they have plenty more. He just doesn't have the balls to deliver the truth.

The UN is dead. Their voice is meaningless.

Do you guys live in a parallel universe where there is no logic?

 

[Guest]

Well, I do. The taxes are cheaper here.

Morning Miles.

edit - this reply has nothing to do with the validity of this thread or the post above.

 

[Viper Vic]

Leftists can't think, they only spout slogans.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Leftists can think...

The ultimate Freudian slip here!

 

[Guest]

 

[Viper Vic]

The ultimate Freudian slip here!

Not really.......just a typo.

 

[Lost Cause]

Those that do not learn from the past..

There was essentially no stopping aggression, since the League of Nations lacked the power to enforce its treaties. (The League had been formed after World War I as an international forum for disputes.)
In 1936, German and Italy allied. Japan joined in 1940, forming the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo Axis.

Hitler and British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain held several meetings to restore peace. They agreed that if Hitler took Czechoslovakia, he would not try to acquire more territory.
Hitler defiantly broke his promise by invading Poland 11 months later, on September 1, 1939.
Britain and France pledged their support for the Allied cause, but stood by while Hitler swallowed Poland.
Journalists dubbed this the Phony War.
The French signed an armistice on June 22. France had fallen.

 

[Hamletmaschine]

I haven't had a geography class in a long time, but I thought the United States was more than 93 miles away from Iraq. Did they move it? Are countries like sports franchises now? Did Iraq relocate to Cuba or something?

 

[LadyG]

Apparently, the U.S. has moved to be closer to Saddam

 

[miles]

First people said there was no proof Iraq had any weapons, that the US was making the whole thing up, just like we always do. After all, we're just looking for a reason to start a war.

Now that the UN is finding the weapons, the excuse is that they only have limited range. I can only imagine what you guys are going to dream up the next time a new weapon is found.

 

[Hamletmaschine]

I believe Iraq has WMDs. Hell, we probably sold 'em to Iraq--or at least the technology to produce them--back in Reagan's day when Iraq was on our Buddy List.

So what? Lots of countries have them.

 

[LadyG]

Including North Korea, who have already said they will use them.

The U.S. has them too, but that's okay.

 

[p_p_man]

First people said there was no proof Iraq had any weapons, that the US was making the whole thing up, just like we always do. After all, we're just looking for a reason to start a war.

Now that the UN is finding the weapons, the excuse is that they only have limited range. I can only imagine what you guys are going to dream up the next time a new weapon is found.

Certainly not bullshit like you're fond of spouting.

First there still is no proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction...

Second the UN didn't just find the weapons (if you're talking about the rockets that fly too far), they were declared by Iraq in a document they handed over to the Inspectors. What they hadn't realised was their flying distance. Stripped of all guidance systems and explosive hardware the rockets fly 20 miles further than Iraqi missiles are allowed. During test runs that's what happened but was ignored by the Iraquis as not being relevent as the missiles were not war ready...

Fully armed and with guidance systems in place they're within the boundaries. The Inspectors found the anomoly not the weapons but decided the weapons should be destroyed anyway...

Which Iraq is doing despite being surrounded by hostile forces.

As for looking for a reason to start a war America doesn't need one...

It has Bush...

ppman

 

[miles]

My sincere and humble apologies, peeps. I forgot you are the keeper of the real truth.

Now I get it. Because Iraq declared them instead of the UN finding them, that makes it okay. We're just picking on them, despite the fact that Iraq claimed they didn't have the missiles to begin with.

I'm sure that's the only thing they're lying about.

 

[jodarby]

You're Right

Leftists can't think, they only spout slogans.

Absolutely!

Bring back prayer in school. No separation of church and state!

 

[miles]

peeps

One other note Cha-Cha.

You have an excuse for everything. Whether it's the Palestinians, Iraq, or Billary. It's always someone else's fault.

You're so predictable, and a bit of a dim bulb.

 

[Guest]

 

[miles]

Emerald_eyed

Back at you 3x

 

[Guest]

My sincere and humble apologies, peeps. I forgot you are the keeper of the real truth.

Now I get it. Because Iraq declared them instead of the UN finding them, that makes it okay. We're just picking on them, despite the fact that Iraq claimed they didn't have the missiles to begin with.

I'm sure that's the only thing they're lying about.

You've just ensured that he won't post on this thread again.

 

[Lasher]

Re: Those that do not learn from the past..

Hitler and British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain held several meetings to restore peace. They agreed that if Hitler took Czechoslovakia, he would not try to acquire more territory.
Hitler defiantly broke his promise by invading Poland 11 months later, on September 1, 1939.

History buddy says that the Munich Agreement of September 1938 that you're referring to only ratified the decision to give the Sudetenland - a traditionally German speaking region of Czechoslovakia - to Hitler, not all of Czechoslovakia.

On March 15, 1939 Hitler then moved to occupy other portions of Czechoslovakia - Bohemia and Moravia - Slovakia was created as an indepedent state, and Hungary also at this time occupied sections of the former Czechoslovakia.

A week later on March 23rd, Hitler then occupied Memel in Lithuania and also at that time issued a demand for the annexation of Danzig and for rights of passage thru the Polish corridor between Germany proper and East Prussia.

It was at this time that Britain and France guaranteed the integrity of Polish territory.

 

[clit_licker30]

Re: You're Right

Absolutely!

Bring back prayer in school. No separation of church and state!

No thankyou. Church should be learned at home. Just kill Saddam, OK?

 

[clit_licker30]

I believe Iraq has WMDs. Hell, we probably sold 'em to Iraq--or at least the technology to produce them--back in Reagan's day when Iraq was on our Buddy List.

So what? Lots of countries have them.

Now he (Iraq) is our enemy. A lot of countries may have WMD's but they haven't used them lately. Saddam has and against his on people.

 

[70/30]

My problem with supporting Perle/Cheney/Wolfowitz/Miles, is they see Baghdad as being the first of many steps to turn the nations (tribes) of the Middle East/Northern Africa into "free market democracies" (greater world oil supply, less Islam). Since diplomacy and multilateral negociation seem the third or fifth route with this administration, I expect more threats and more invasions.

I don't have a problem with Blair he said some good stuff on MTV, just like I didn't have a problem with Clinton in 1998--they have some cognition of the objections people voice. I would like to hear GWB face the public without distance or the Milesque whine and smirk. Also, if Bill and Blair would be ambitious enough to try to build free market democracies in all parts of the world, I'm pretty sure they would commit to the effort without including religion, w/o further threatening nuclear strikes, and immediate invasion. In charge, they would also clearly reveal how they'll balance the Turk/Kurd/Sunni/Shiite power pull.

I would like someone to recognise that we spent trillions to win the cold war, the conflicts were to win over LDCs. GWB foreign policy and bad rhetoric regularly gives them away. Also a major threat comes from starving fmr. Soviet nuclear scientists that know where plutonium and HEU reside. How about spending a couple billion to neutralise those stocks.

Al Qaeda has attacked us, they don't have to have Saddam to get access. The more entities we upset using the Perle Plan, the less they'll need Saddam to get access. Global PR campaigns are good policy, of course, unless your policy is for Baghdad to be the first of many steps.

 

[p_p_man]

My sincere and humble apologies, peeps. I forgot you are the keeper of the real truth.

Now I get it. Because Iraq declared them instead of the UN finding them, that makes it okay. We're just picking on them, despite the fact that Iraq claimed they didn't have the missiles to begin with.

I'm sure that's the only thing they're lying about.

Not to worry miles, you'll soon be getting the killing sands you crave...

ppman

 

[Tungwagger]

Certainly not bullshit like you're fond of spouting.

First there still is no proof that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction...

Second the UN didn't just find the weapons (if you're talking about the rockets that fly too far), they were declared by Iraq in a document they handed over to the Inspectors. What they hadn't realised was their flying distance. Stripped of all guidance systems and explosive hardware the rockets fly 20 miles further than Iraqi missiles are allowed. During test runs that's what happened but was ignored by the Iraquis as not being relevent as the missiles were not war ready...

Fully armed and with guidance systems in place they're within the boundaries. The Inspectors found the anomoly not the weapons but decided the weapons should be destroyed anyway...

Which Iraq is doing despite being surrounded by hostile forces.

As for looking for a reason to start a war America doesn't need one...

It has Bush...

ppman

In another thread, you agreed that Saddam was destroying the missiles because he was surrounded by superior forces.....

Which is it?