When does the left actually stop this crying act?

[underguy1]

Nope, no ironic lack of self awareness here...

I thought you were pretending to be a progressive. And here you are agreeing with an extreme right wing libertoonian nut job.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm not playing your stupid game. Austrians and libertarians can't be reasoned with.

I'm not an Austrian or a libertarian.

You can consent to giving the implicit right of force.

But you can't oppose, or opt out, the individual doesn't get to tell socialism (the collective/government) "no" or they either go to prison or are just shot and shoved in a ditch depending on how civilized the collective exerting force decides to be.

Socialism (in all it's forms) is the FORCE of the collective (government) over the individual and their rights. Good or bad.

I'm glad we have roads, public education and personally I want a nationalized HC system.

But I don't pretend either.

Those things only happen when the government sticks a gun to everyone's head and forces them to do it. That's the ONLY way.

Your 'argument' goes nowhere.

Because it's a fact not an argument, it doesn't have to go anywhere it just is.

 

[1sickbastard]

You haven't made a single argument. It's all personal abuse and high school grade 'demands'.

And we don't go to "college". We go to university.

Oh, I do apologise.
Tell me again how you're more than a sophomore in uni, but a fifty seven year old man with a daughter seeking a Master's Degree instead of a punk-ass college kid living with his folks.
No, I haven't made any arguments.
What I HAVE done is challenge you to make ANY arguments instead of ducking them with any number of fallacies.

I thought you were pretending to be a progressive. And here you are agreeing with an extreme right wing libertoonian nut job.

I've seen how you "think", and am thoroughly unimpressed. I won't speak for others, but my guess is that I'm not the only one who is also unimpressed.
You can "think" (assuming you have the capacity to do so) that I'm a "progressive".
You've also labeled me a "fascist" a "racist" an "ignoramus", an "islamophobe, and a "Russiaphobe".
Clearly you find labels a convenient expedient for actually defending your ideas.

One day you will realize that doing so says far, far more about you than it does anyone else.

Usually that happens in the mid 30's. If an individual makes it to his/her late 50's without it happening, that's often an indication that said individual is not normal, and usually not in a complimentary sense.

 

[sr71plt]

I've seen how you "think", and am thoroughly unimpressed. I won't speak for others, but my guess is that I'm not the only one who is also unimpressed.

Nope, not a bit impressed with Underwhelmingguy1.

 

[underguy1]

I'm not an Austrian or a libertarian.

Your entire schtick is Austrian/libertarian shibboleths. You can't even be honest about what you believe.

But you can't oppose, or opt out, the individual doesn't get to tell socialism (the collective/government) "no" or they either go to prison or are just shot and shoved in a ditch depending on how civilized the collective exerting force decides to be.

Socialism (in all it's forms) is the FORCE of the collective (government) over the individual and their rights. Good or bad.

This is History Channel level propaganda.

I'm glad we have roads, public education and personally I want a nationalized HC system.

But I don't pretend either.

Those things only happen when the government sticks a gun to everyone's head and forces them to do it. That's the ONLY way.

Ridiculous.

Because it's a fact not an argument, it doesn't have to go anywhere it just is.

It's a pointless journey to nowhere. It's a libertarian trick to grind and bore the other party to death.

 

[1sickbastard]

Nope, not a bit impressed with Underwhelmingguy1.

That's because you're a fascist, racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, Russiaphobic, brainwashed by Zionist, pro-American propaganda, white male intent on supporting whatever underoos disagrees with. Because (insert epithets here).

 

[underguy1]

Oh, I do apologise.
Tell me again how you're more than a sophomore in uni, but a fifty seven year old man with a daughter seeking a Master's Degree instead of a punk-ass college kid living with his folks.
No, I haven't made any arguments.
What I HAVE done is challenge you to make ANY arguments instead of ducking them with any number of fallacies.

I've seen how you "think", and am thoroughly unimpressed. I won't speak for others, but my guess is that I'm not the only one who is also unimpressed.
You can "think" (assuming you have the capacity to do so) that I'm a "progressive".
You've also labeled me a "fascist" a "racist" an "ignoramus", an "islamophobe, and a "Russiaphobe".
Clearly you find labels a convenient expedient for actually defending your ideas.

One day you will realize that doing so says far, far more about you than it does anyone else.

Usually that happens in the mid 30's. If an individual makes it to his/her late 50's without it happening, that's often an indication that said individual is not normal, and usually not in a complimentary sense.

That's just another nonsensical rant.

You don't want any evidence or reasoned argument. You're like Botany Boy. You're just a wum.

I don't care what your opinion is of me. It can't be worse than mine of yours.

I 'labelled' you those things because your words indicated that those labels were appropriate.

If you make racist statements you will be called for it. If you attack people on the basis of nationality and/or sexual preference, that makes you a bigot.

That's how language works.

 

[1sickbastard]

That's just another nonsensical rant.

You don't want any evidence or reasoned argument. You're like Botany Boy. You're just a wum.

I don't care what your opinion is of me. It can't be worse than mine of yours.

I 'labelled' you those things because your words indicated that those labels were appropriate.

If you make racist statements you will be called for it. If you attack people on the basis of nationality and/or sexual preference, that makes you a bigot.

That's how language works.

In other words, you have jack shit.

If you had evidence or reasoned argument you'd have presented them.
But that would take actual effort and having to leave the echo chamber of your safe spaces, wouldn't it?

By all means, present your arguments and "evidence'. Of course, that means having to stake a position you will have to defend.

Seriously, being wrong isn't a problem for me, if one can do so. For me, finding out that I'm wrong is part of the process of figuring out what is "right" (aka congruent with demonstrable reality).
So I have zero to lose and everything to gain.
Can you, truthfully, say the same?

 

[sr71plt]

That's because you're a fascist, racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, Russiaphobic, brainwashed by Zionist, pro-American propaganda, white male intent on supporting whatever underoos disagrees with. Because (insert epithets here).

Don't forget queer.

 

[underguy1]

In other words, you have jack shit.

If you had evidence or reasoned argument you'd have presented them.
But that would take actual effort and having to leave the echo chamber of your safe spaces, wouldn't it?

By all means, present your arguments and "evidence'. Of course, that means having to stake a position you will have to defend.

Seriously, being wrong isn't a problem for me, if one can do so. For me, finding out that I'm wrong is part of the process of figuring out what is "right" (aka congruent with demonstrable reality).
So I have zero to lose and everything to gain.
Can you, truthfully, say the same?

You don't recognise reasoned argument. Your assertions of facts are nonsense.

And you will lie through your teeth rather than admit you're wrong.

 

[underguy1]

Don't forget queer.

You're a sociopath that thinks that causing wars that kill millions of brown people is 'excellent policy' and good for the USA.

It's about you and your abhorrent beliefs. Language, not labels.

And you have the gall to pretend to be a progressive.

You're not. You're closer to Hitler than you are to FDR.

And your 'thoughts' on Bernie Sanders are Clintonista talking points and untrue.

 

[1sickbastard]

You don't recognise reasoned argument. Your assertions of facts are nonsense.

And you will lie through your teeth rather than admit you're wrong.

I don't reconize anything you've presented as a reasoned argument because, quite simply, you haven't presented any.

If it will take a reposting and restatement of your so-called arguments to force you to admit as much, I might be willing to engage in the effort. Despite your interactions so far, I have some expectation you migth be bright enough to be worth the trouble.
As you've done nothing to address my assertions of facts, your assertion is invalid.

If I've "lied" (aka made a knowing, deliberate misrepresentation) about you, please, by all means present your case.

I'm willing to admit when I've fucked up and made a mistake.

Are you?

 

[underguy1]

I don't reconize anything you've presented as a reasoned argument because, quite simply, you haven't presented any.

Then there is nothing further to discuss.

So why all your tantrums and foot stamping?

Why all the whining and moaning and bitching?

Fuck you and your American exceptionalism.

Get back on the plantation that is American capitalism and be happy.

 

[JackLuis]

Back On Topic:

I believe the Left will soon loose it's shell shock and will shake off the malaise from the election and lay plans and groom candidates to recover the country from the Fascists. It will onl take two years and we can obstruct Trumpinistas by taking the House away form the Tea Party Twits, dump Pelosi and the Establishment she represents, and take a few more seats in the Senate to seal the deal.

But it won't be lead by Chuck Schumer, The Senator from Citi Bank, who even now is currying favor with Heir Trump and the Neo-Theo-Con gangsters.

I laughed as Mike Huckabee was mentioned as Ambassador to Israel. He can play bass in the Zionista Band.

Oh Christ, we are soooooo FUCKED!

 

[1sickbastard]

Then there is nothing further to discuss.

So why all your tantrums and foot stamping?

Why all the whining and moaning and bitching?

Fuck you and your American exceptionalism.

Get back on the plantation that is American capitalism and be happy.

Blah, blah, blah.

You have jack shit and you either know it, or are to damned stupid to figure it out.


If you had shit to say (other than 'Muricka sucks and is to blame for the rest of the world's suck) you'd have said it clearly and defended your position.

But you hadn't said shit, which pretty much means you have jack shit to say.

Yes, I know you'll disagree, but I challenge you to PROVE IT by taking a positive stand.


Put up or shut up time, buckwheat.

 

[1sickbastard]

Back On Topic:

I believe the Left will soon loose it's shell shock and will shake off the malaise from the election and lay plans and groom candidates to recover the country from the Fascists. It will onl take two years and we can obstruct Trumpinistas by taking the House away form the Tea Party Twits, dump Pelosi and the Establishment she represents, and take a few more seats in the Senate to seal the deal.

But it won't be lead by Chuck Schumer, The Senator from Citi Bank, who even now is currying favor with Heir Trump and the Neo-Theo-Con gangsters.

I laughed as Mike Huckabee was mentioned as Ambassador to Israel. He can play bass in the Zionista Band.

Oh Christ, we are soooooo FUCKED!

It will take more than two years.

"Taking back America" means taking back a majority of state houses and legislators. That means real, honest to god, blood sweat and tears at the local level in areas where pink haired grrls, dark skined people, and SJW's with X-number pronouns don't mean a goddamn to folks just trying to pay rent, eat, and have one or two non-shit moments in their lives.

 

[underguy1]

Blah, blah, blah.

You have jack shit and you either know it, or are to damned stupid to figure it out.


If you had shit to say (other than 'Muricka sucks and is to blame for the rest of the world's suck) you'd have said it clearly and defended your position.

But you hadn't said shit, which pretty much means you have jack shit to say.

Yes, I know you'll disagree, but I challenge you to PROVE IT by taking a positive stand.


Put up or shut up time, buckwheat.

I've no idea of what you are on about, kid.


You've made a bunch of assertions that were way off the mark in your quest to censor me.

Censor me because of my positions.

What else have you done?

I'd mention the irony of all this but like most of your countrymen you don't actually understand the term.

 

[JackLuis]

It will take more than two years.

"Taking back America" means taking back a majority of state houses and legislators. That means real, honest to god, blood sweat and tears at the local level in areas where pink haired grrls, dark skined people, and SJW's with X-number pronouns don't mean a goddamn to folks just trying to pay rent, eat, and have one or two non-shit moments in their lives.

That is true, to take back the States Leg's will be hard, but if the Demo's control the State Leg's in 2020 they can gerrymander their ass off and set the fascists back for a decade.

 

[1sickbastard]

I've no idea of what you are on about, kid.

There seems to be quite a bit of which you've no idea. The issue is that you haven't the awareness to admit as much to yourself, much less others.[/quote]

You've made a bunch of assertions that were way off the mark in your quest to censor me.

Censor me because of my positions.

How have I censored you?

Do I have the ability to edt or remove your posts/threads?
No.
Do I have the ability to ban you from Lit?
No.

So, just how is it I've "censored" you?
Care to explain that position? More to the point, can you back it up with objectively verfiable evidence?
Keep in mind, an accusation is not "evidence". An accusation is a claim. A claim is NOT evidence..

What else have you done?

Mostly I've mocked you.
Then again, you've shown littlle that derserves more that a mocking.

I'd mention the irony of all this but like most of your countrymen you don't actually understand the term.

Sure, go ahead and stereotype. It's easier than engaging with an individual. Which is an attitude common among children and adults that never progressed beyond their A levels.

 

[1sickbastard]

There seems to be quite a bit of which you've no idea. The issue is that you haven't the awareness to admit as much to yourself, much less others.

How have I censored you?

Do I have the ability to edt or remove your posts/threads?
No.
Do I have the ability to ban you from Lit?
No.

So, just how is it I've "censored" you?
Care to explain that position? More to the point, can you back it up with objectively verfiable evidence?
Keep in mind, an accusation is not "evidence". An accusation is a claim. A claim is NOT evidence..

Mostly I've mocked you.
Then again, you've shown littlle that derserves more that a mocking.

Sure, go ahead and stereotype. It's easier than engaging with an individual. Which is an attitude common among children and adults that never progressed beyond their A levels.[/QUOTE]

 

[1sickbastard]

That is true, to take back the States Leg's will be hard, but if the Demo's control the State Leg's in 2020 they can gerrymander their ass off and set the fascists back for a decade.

That's a bif IF.

It took the GOP six election cycles to start flipping statehouses and govenorships. Twelve before that delivered the House to the GOP.

The DNC is just as out of touch with "Murika" as the GOP

 

[underguy1]

How have I censored you?

.

[/QUOTE]

You haven't. But you've tried.

I'm bored with your bigoted shit. And that's all it is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's a pointless journey to nowhere. It's a libertarian trick to grind and bore the other party to death.

No it's not, you just can't form an argument against it so you name call.

That's all you do. Make claims and then name call anyone who wishes to discuss it.

Kinda like "Preadatory finance capitalism".....can't even explain what it means but you defend the shit out of it as a 'thing' . LOL

 

[RUlookingup]

Crying is all they know, it is instinct.

 

[RUlookingup]

Like a Roy Orbison song