When does it become a problem?
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In somewhat more serious, than my usual, vein
I have 'highlighted' the part of your post that seems to underpin the issues and questions you have.
But..I think , really, you already know that.
Some of your posts conjure the image of a guy who was maybe fat during his formative years as a sexual entity, a guy who is still dealing with the after taste of that time/experience.
I don't think the fact you are, and revel in, being sexually rampant is the real problem. Perhaps it is the apparently smaller , more symptomatic, aspects that cause concern.
Recidiva suggested that addiction is a matter of brain chemistry. That is still debated by the psychs. I feel there is an element of this within any addiction.
Whatever we do to or with our body , we experience chemical changes. Even excercise , producing endorphins (sp) is claimed to be addicitive.
However, I believe that quite often what we recognise as the addiction is possibly an 'overlay', merely a symbol. From what you have said I am far from convinced you are actually addicted to sex. I wonder if it is more true that you are addicted to the acceptance, the success, the sense of victory, even the inferred acceptance of self, that is achieved with each conquest. All these factors might easilly be 'hangovers' from the highlighted text in your statement.
Perhaps what you are addicted to is proving and celebrating the fact you are no longer how you once were.
Again there is nothing innately wrong in that. Far too many people get buried by what should be seen as a symptom neurosis, where the accumulated worry swamps and overwhelms the original concerns/problem. Often that can become a self-feeding spiral.
The aspect that is most worrying would seem to be your embracing danger.
Your statements about unprotected sex are of obvious concern for you and others. I believe AIDS now exceeds a million cases in the USA. If we take out the elderly, the vast majority of children under 13, special needs categories, etc, ( all of whom I guess would fall outside your target group)
the odds of a contact increase significantly. Throw in all the other STDs
and I think you might agree reckless mutates into 'fucking stupid'.
That is not said as an insult. It is said as emphasis.
Smaller things quietly underline the suggestion that it is the feeling of possessing control that holds you 'captive'.
Take a look at some of your own pics. One in particular, on a balcony, with an
AK ( or a clone there of) across your shoulders. Check out the 'tell-tale' that yells volumes. It looks like you have a full stick in that thing. Even if you haven't. you do not handle such a weapon that way,you do not have your trigger finger through the guard like that.
Some would come back with 'I am good with firearms, I know what I am doing, blah blah blah'. They'd be dickheads. Little boys trying to bluster their way out of being stupid. I spent over 20 years in HM armed forces, using, teaching, training, and what I would ask , is , think about what that blase little indicator is whispering about.
You yourself use the term russian roulette.
I wonder if that needs thinking about.
Would you take a revolver, load one, give it a spin, shove it in a subs mouth and fire it ?
No Dom would, because there is no control in that, either of self or others. Carrying out the act is no more a control scenario than a random hit and run , or drive by. It would be a sham of control, fake power.
BUT.....That is exactly what you are doing with the unprotected sex, it is just like using a revolver with a bigger capacity and longer odds, thats all.
The AK...again indicating a reckless gamble rather than control ?
All it needs is one weak condom, one split, and it is Deerhunter time.
All this is not actually meant as an attack, more to prompt thought.
Sorry it is so long, and possibly boring.
From my personal persepective, any Dom who exposes a sub to risk they are not aware of , or did not 'sign up for', has crossed the line. Consensual use then becomes abuse, respect becomes contempt, the dom becomes the slave of his own innability to wield 'trust'. Power becomes weakness.
Someone said a dom didn't have to be perfect, in control all the time. Maybe not perfect, but, Yes they do have to be in control. Someone else's safety is reliant on that control.
But...I actually think most of this will not read as anything too surprising to you.
Then again , I don't know you.I could be way off.
Marquis said:
I have 'highlighted' the part of your post that seems to underpin the issues and questions you have.
But..I think , really, you already know that.
Some of your posts conjure the image of a guy who was maybe fat during his formative years as a sexual entity, a guy who is still dealing with the after taste of that time/experience.
I don't think the fact you are, and revel in, being sexually rampant is the real problem. Perhaps it is the apparently smaller , more symptomatic, aspects that cause concern.
Recidiva suggested that addiction is a matter of brain chemistry. That is still debated by the psychs. I feel there is an element of this within any addiction.
Whatever we do to or with our body , we experience chemical changes. Even excercise , producing endorphins (sp) is claimed to be addicitive.
However, I believe that quite often what we recognise as the addiction is possibly an 'overlay', merely a symbol. From what you have said I am far from convinced you are actually addicted to sex. I wonder if it is more true that you are addicted to the acceptance, the success, the sense of victory, even the inferred acceptance of self, that is achieved with each conquest. All these factors might easilly be 'hangovers' from the highlighted text in your statement.
Perhaps what you are addicted to is proving and celebrating the fact you are no longer how you once were.
Again there is nothing innately wrong in that. Far too many people get buried by what should be seen as a symptom neurosis, where the accumulated worry swamps and overwhelms the original concerns/problem. Often that can become a self-feeding spiral.
The aspect that is most worrying would seem to be your embracing danger.
Your statements about unprotected sex are of obvious concern for you and others. I believe AIDS now exceeds a million cases in the USA. If we take out the elderly, the vast majority of children under 13, special needs categories, etc, ( all of whom I guess would fall outside your target group)
the odds of a contact increase significantly. Throw in all the other STDs
and I think you might agree reckless mutates into 'fucking stupid'.
That is not said as an insult. It is said as emphasis.
Smaller things quietly underline the suggestion that it is the feeling of possessing control that holds you 'captive'.
Take a look at some of your own pics. One in particular, on a balcony, with an
AK ( or a clone there of) across your shoulders. Check out the 'tell-tale' that yells volumes. It looks like you have a full stick in that thing. Even if you haven't. you do not handle such a weapon that way,you do not have your trigger finger through the guard like that.
Some would come back with 'I am good with firearms, I know what I am doing, blah blah blah'. They'd be dickheads. Little boys trying to bluster their way out of being stupid. I spent over 20 years in HM armed forces, using, teaching, training, and what I would ask , is , think about what that blase little indicator is whispering about.
You yourself use the term russian roulette.
I wonder if that needs thinking about.
Would you take a revolver, load one, give it a spin, shove it in a subs mouth and fire it ?
No Dom would, because there is no control in that, either of self or others. Carrying out the act is no more a control scenario than a random hit and run , or drive by. It would be a sham of control, fake power.
BUT.....That is exactly what you are doing with the unprotected sex, it is just like using a revolver with a bigger capacity and longer odds, thats all.
The AK...again indicating a reckless gamble rather than control ?
All it needs is one weak condom, one split, and it is Deerhunter time.
All this is not actually meant as an attack, more to prompt thought.
Sorry it is so long, and possibly boring.
From my personal persepective, any Dom who exposes a sub to risk they are not aware of , or did not 'sign up for', has crossed the line. Consensual use then becomes abuse, respect becomes contempt, the dom becomes the slave of his own innability to wield 'trust'. Power becomes weakness.
Someone said a dom didn't have to be perfect, in control all the time. Maybe not perfect, but, Yes they do have to be in control. Someone else's safety is reliant on that control.
But...I actually think most of this will not read as anything too surprising to you.
Then again , I don't know you.I could be way off.
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Not sure, Marquis, if you're going to read this or not. So far there has been talk only of STDs. And by 'only' I don't mean there aren't important or that the risk should be neglected.
But in all this thread I haven't read once 'pregnancy'. Are you prepared to be father of a child whose mother you only met for a casual sexual moment? To at least pay for it? If your sex partners don't take the pill they are stupid. Or want to bind you to them with a child.
If any man, even hotter than hell, started fucking me without a condom I would yell bloody murder. And if he didn't stop instantly I would notify the police as that would be rape.
But in all this thread I haven't read once 'pregnancy'. Are you prepared to be father of a child whose mother you only met for a casual sexual moment? To at least pay for it? If your sex partners don't take the pill they are stupid. Or want to bind you to them with a child.
If any man, even hotter than hell, started fucking me without a condom I would yell bloody murder. And if he didn't stop instantly I would notify the police as that would be rape.
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chris9 said:
I subscribe it !
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I'd advise you to at least test the other women first, if not use a condom.
Also, I think that your thing is not much addiction to sex as a subconscious desire to sire many kids. That's an atavistic urge that is much harder to deal with than simple addiction. On some level, you want to be a father, so you can continue your genes and ideas. That's my take.
And it's not bad, except for the risks you are taking with STDs and HIV. I'd say cut back, don't cut it out.
Also, I think that your thing is not much addiction to sex as a subconscious desire to sire many kids. That's an atavistic urge that is much harder to deal with than simple addiction. On some level, you want to be a father, so you can continue your genes and ideas. That's my take.
And it's not bad, except for the risks you are taking with STDs and HIV. I'd say cut back, don't cut it out.
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Contrary to popular belief, there is no underlying, primal, unconscious urge to procreate, but merely to have sex. Orgasms are a reward system that accidentally evolved in us, the purpose being to encourage us to engage in bahavior that causes us to multiply, which of course increases our species's chance for survival.
I think this stems from a misunderstanding of the evolution process, which unfortunately is due to the increasing number of information sources such as Nova and the Discovery Channel that insist on dumbing science down. They falsely give the impression that evolution is a living, thinking thing that oversees the advancement of all life, and ensures they develop the characeristics they require to survive in thier environment, and that ultimately, if a species were to survive long enough, they would eventually evolve into a perfect being.
The reality is much less poetic and much more accidental. For one thing, various traits arise primarily from mutations in DNA caused by radiation from the sun and space. Only by trial and error are these traits either kept or lost. If a trait develops that hinders an individuals survival, it is likely that it will not make it to the next generation, whereas a trait that is benificial helps ensure the individual will surivie to pass it on to its offspring.
Anyway, on the original issue, just shut up and enjoy the sex while you have it. People should stop questioning thier own decisions after they've already made them. By then it's too late anyway.
And don't ven get me started on this shit about sex without a condom being rape if he doesn't stop instantly. Bullshit, on several grounds.
I think this stems from a misunderstanding of the evolution process, which unfortunately is due to the increasing number of information sources such as Nova and the Discovery Channel that insist on dumbing science down. They falsely give the impression that evolution is a living, thinking thing that oversees the advancement of all life, and ensures they develop the characeristics they require to survive in thier environment, and that ultimately, if a species were to survive long enough, they would eventually evolve into a perfect being.
The reality is much less poetic and much more accidental. For one thing, various traits arise primarily from mutations in DNA caused by radiation from the sun and space. Only by trial and error are these traits either kept or lost. If a trait develops that hinders an individuals survival, it is likely that it will not make it to the next generation, whereas a trait that is benificial helps ensure the individual will surivie to pass it on to its offspring.
Anyway, on the original issue, just shut up and enjoy the sex while you have it. People should stop questioning thier own decisions after they've already made them. By then it's too late anyway.
And don't ven get me started on this shit about sex without a condom being rape if he doesn't stop instantly. Bullshit, on several grounds.
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I got to it being rape becauseStuponfucious said:
. As that would take away any consent I might originally have had, yes, it is rape. If I don't mind fucking without condom I'm an irresponsible child who has a lot to learn, but I'm not raped.Chris9 said:
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I just want to make it clear that I didn't think your partners had insisted and had disrespected this. I was more getting at it from a girl's point of view. And I'm very certain that I would insist.Marquis said:
I actually think those girls are pretty stupid for not insisting.
