When Commenters Demand Gross Realism

[dirk2024]

The anonymous comment:
Anonymous2 days ago



Conclusion:

Misogynistic cowardly ignorant mansplaining.

Wow. That was a lot of words from him for what boils down to, "I am self-identifying as an asshole."

 

[joy_of_cooking]

I once dated a midwife and she told me how many women wouldn't have their partner at the birth for fear of pooping in front of him . Giving her a strong enema some hours before didn't guarantee a crap-free delivery. She also told me that at the posher maternity hospitals the facemask the father is forced to wear during deliveries is impregnated with deodorant so he won't have the embarassment of having to smell the birth.

I don't doubt that there are places that give the mother an enema and the father a perfumed mask. It's not a common practice.

I feel like this midwife comes from a very specific segment of the labor and delivery world and does not realize this or (more likely) has not adequately conveyed this to her then-boyfriend.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

We could create a whole series of episodes of "When Commenters Demand!" with a different demand each episode.

The answer is always the same, though.

It feels like a game show at this point. "Host, I would like to pick the 'I dated the expert' category for extra 1000 points!"

 

[SmilingLez]

I don't doubt that there are places that give the mother an enema and the father a perfumed mask. It's not a common practice.

I feel like this midwife comes from a very specific segment of the labor and delivery world and does not realize this or (more likely) has not adequately conveyed this to her then-boyfriend.

I don't believe the midwife exists. This is just the rambling of a misogynistic spiteful man

 

[Voboy]

I don't doubt that there are places that give the mother an enema and the father a perfumed mask. It's not a common practice.

I feel like this midwife comes from a very specific segment of the labor and delivery world and does not realize this or (more likely) has not adequately conveyed this to her then-boyfriend.

I think it's more likely the commenter has never met a midwife in his life, and is just claiming he has so that the OP will be thunderstruck by his expertise.

 

[Britva415]

 

[Britva415]

"I got freaky with the placenta of my lovely wife... Mmmmmmorgan Fairchild!"

 

[lovecraft68]

The anonymous comment:
Anonymous2 days ago

Having the son-father there at the birth is novel, and witnessing how painful the end-game of ecstatically cum-drenching her cunt is for the seed-carrier, that's also fairly innovative. But the reality of their joyous fucking's consequences end there. For that was one impossibly clean birth, the bathtub she delivered in could almost be seen as a metaphor for how immaculate it was. Giving birth is invariably wet and messy. It's also very bloody. There's also the matter of bodily functions. Although the author mentions her prior 'emptying her bladder' that would be like a few drips of water from a crack in a dyke. In terms of her bodily-functions, soon the dyke will split open and the floodgates will be overwhelmed. I once dated a midwife and she told me how many women wouldn't have their partner at the birth for fear of pooping in front of him . Giving her a strong enema some hours before didn't guarantee a crap-free delivery. She also told me that at the posher maternity hospitals the facemask the father is forced to wear during deliveries is impregnated with deodorant so he won't have the embarassment of having to smell the birth. It's at best 'ambitious' that the author tries to turn the delivery into a sexy form of foreplay: "he gently stroked and licked her erect nipples". For at this point a ball of flesh four times the size of her vagina is trying to squeeze through a hole a weasel couldn't get through. But then I suppose fantasy breedings beget fantasy birthings. No mention of an umbilical chord, is it still attached? And the "gurgle in her belly" postpartum that she still had to push out between her legs. What did they do with her placenta? Store it in the fridge and sprinkle it on their pizza some months later, when they're going at it for a third bump in her belly.?? In summary very suburban, very spotless breeding-birthing fantasy.

Conclusion:

Misogynistic cowardly ignorant mansplaining.

Basically, its the culture on any site like this.

This clown is worse than most, but many men here are the reason so many women are single with no desire to marry.

Keep hanging out, you'll see some great mansplaining right here in the forum.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I recently received a very lengthy anonymous comment on one of my story chapters complaining about the "impossibly clean birth" at the end and how unrealistic it is. I want to reply "no shit", but that's actually the essence of his complaint. Using the fact that he apparently dated a midwife as his source, the commenter explains in detail all of the gross things that actually happen during delivery and asks about the whereabouts of the umbilical cord (which he misspells as "chord") as well as the placenta in the scene.

If you'd like to read the full comment for yourself, follow the link and scroll down (it's the massive block paragraph).

As a woman who is days away from giving birth for the fourth time, I am well aware of how gross and unglamorous labor actually is, and that babies are messy, wriggly little things when fresh out of the birth canal, so the commenter isn't wrong. My question is: why on earth would anyone WANT this part to be depicted realistically in a smut story?

This is obviously just one commenter out of many, and since I enjoy including breeding as a theme in my stories, they basically demand a birth scene (albeit a sanitized one) to complete the kink. Even so, it still baffles me as to why anyone would complain about a scene like this being too sanitized. I've had female commenters post about the birth scenes in my stories, and nobody criticized them for not being gross enough, because why would anyone want that in a story they're reading for pleasure (I assume)?

Has anyone else had complaints like this on their stories? Somebody criticizing the sex scenes for proceeding too smoothly and painlessly? The fact that the guy never has trouble getting hard whenever the story requires it? The fact that STIs are never mentioned? Pointing out that real men don't have nine-inch dicks?

First, congratulations on the new/pending arrival. I caught both my sons, and messy or clean wasn't a factor. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever been party to.

Second, just realize that commenters are like birds. Some, like this guy, are Grackles, trash birds that do nothing but squawk and sit in the trees and crap all over everything.

Others, are Starlings, that bless us, spreading joy to those they encounter by the gift of their murmurations.

If you leave a comment, be the Starling.

 

[NaughteeDragon]

In one of my stories the MMC comments that he is average. Average looks, average car, average income, and these facts keep him from being able to attract average women on dating sites. To reinforce this theme of how we consider average to be "less than desirable" he laments his average size cock. His lover in the story (his mother) appreciates it and treats it like the beautiful thing that it is.

One of my commenters said "He should have had a bigger cock. 6-7 inches, nothing ridiculous but definitely above average."

 

[TheWritingGroup]

One of my commenters said "He should have had a bigger cock. 6-7 inches, nothing ridiculous but definitely above average.

Why doesn't this forum have a facepalm response emoji?

--Annie

 

[Statius]

I have gotten a lot of that. I tend to have a lot of ATM in my stories and have gotten several comments about how it ruins the teeth and is bad for mouth hygiene and how no girl would actually do that.

The funniest was about an incest story, he had problems with how roughly the dad fucked his daughter, not that he was actually fucking his daughter.

What I have learned is that I have no place writing sexual fantasies on a sex site, I should write realism.

It is always men and they always know more about women and their sexual desires than me.
But I have accepted that. They will always know better and me as a woman need to be told how it is.

Glad to see you're understanding how the world never actually worked, through the eyes of pple who live in a more fictional world than the ones we all write about!

 

[Statius]

In one of my stories the MMC comments that he is average. Average looks, average car, average income, and these facts keep him from being able to attract average women on dating sites. To reinforce this theme of how we consider average to be "less than desirable" he laments his average size cock. His lover in the story (his mother) appreciates it and treats it like the beautiful thing that it is.

One of my commenters said "He should have had a bigger cock. 6-7 inches, nothing ridiculous but definitely above average."

Maybe one more average analogy was needed? Just.... One ... More. And he woulda got it. Maybe. Probably not.

 

[Statius]

The anonymous comment:
Anonymous2 days ago

Having the son-father there at the birth is novel, and witnessing how painful the end-game of ecstatically cum-drenching her cunt is for the seed-carrier, that's also fairly innovative. But the reality of their joyous fucking's consequences end there. For that was one impossibly clean birth, the bathtub she delivered in could almost be seen as a metaphor for how immaculate it was. Giving birth is invariably wet and messy. It's also very bloody. There's also the matter of bodily functions. Although the author mentions her prior 'emptying her bladder' that would be like a few drips of water from a crack in a dyke. In terms of her bodily-functions, soon the dyke will split open and the floodgates will be overwhelmed. I once dated a midwife and she told me how many women wouldn't have their partner at the birth for fear of pooping in front of him . Giving her a strong enema some hours before didn't guarantee a crap-free delivery. She also told me that at the posher maternity hospitals the facemask the father is forced to wear during deliveries is impregnated with deodorant so he won't have the embarassment of having to smell the birth. It's at best 'ambitious' that the author tries to turn the delivery into a sexy form of foreplay: "he gently stroked and licked her erect nipples". For at this point a ball of flesh four times the size of her vagina is trying to squeeze through a hole a weasel couldn't get through. But then I suppose fantasy breedings beget fantasy birthings. No mention of an umbilical chord, is it still attached? And the "gurgle in her belly" postpartum that she still had to push out between her legs. What did they do with her placenta? Store it in the fridge and sprinkle it on their pizza some months later, when they're going at it for a third bump in her belly.?? In summary very suburban, very spotless breeding-birthing fantasy.

Conclusion:

Misogynistic cowardly ignorant mansplaining.

What the actual fuck? I guess pull out the medical book and quote it next time? Find a video and attach it to the story? Wow.

 

[Statius]

I don't doubt that there are places that give the mother an enema and the father a perfumed mask. It's not a common practice.

I feel like this midwife comes from a very specific segment of the labor and delivery world and does not realize this or (more likely) has not adequately conveyed this to her then-boyfriend.

Maybe, and I'm speculating here, maybe there's a reason he 'used to date a midwife?'

I'm bored, can you tell?

 

[Britva415]

Starlings [...] bless us, spreading joy to those they encounter by the gift of their murmurations

You must be from across the pond Over here, starlings are invasive pests, just as noisy and drippy as you accuse, while the grackles are our indigenous big-blackbird buddies.

 

[TheLobster]

The commenter is a pompous know-it-all, and like many here I have serious doubts that the alleged midwife ex-girlfriend even exists.

But at the same time, I fail to see the supposed misogyny. It seems to me that everyone just tacked that on because of course they did.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Someone has a fetish and has decided that birth is 'always' like his fantasy.

I have no doubt some births are blood and shit and fluids spurting everywhere, but I was pleasantly surprised by how not-messy it was in my cases. Until the vomiting, but that's a whole different fetish (which no-one around had!)

 

[Kasumi_Lee]

The anonymous comment:
Anonymous2 days ago

Having the son-father there at the birth is novel, and witnessing how painful the end-game of ecstatically cum-drenching her cunt is for the seed-carrier, that's also fairly innovative. But the reality of their joyous fucking's consequences end there. For that was one impossibly clean birth, the bathtub she delivered in could almost be seen as a metaphor for how immaculate it was. Giving birth is invariably wet and messy. It's also very bloody. There's also the matter of bodily functions. Although the author mentions her prior 'emptying her bladder' that would be like a few drips of water from a crack in a dyke. In terms of her bodily-functions, soon the dyke will split open and the floodgates will be overwhelmed. I once dated a midwife and she told me how many women wouldn't have their partner at the birth for fear of pooping in front of him . Giving her a strong enema some hours before didn't guarantee a crap-free delivery. She also told me that at the posher maternity hospitals the facemask the father is forced to wear during deliveries is impregnated with deodorant so he won't have the embarassment of having to smell the birth. It's at best 'ambitious' that the author tries to turn the delivery into a sexy form of foreplay: "he gently stroked and licked her erect nipples". For at this point a ball of flesh four times the size of her vagina is trying to squeeze through a hole a weasel couldn't get through. But then I suppose fantasy breedings beget fantasy birthings. No mention of an umbilical chord, is it still attached? And the "gurgle in her belly" postpartum that she still had to push out between her legs. What did they do with her placenta? Store it in the fridge and sprinkle it on their pizza some months later, when they're going at it for a third bump in her belly.?? In summary very suburban, very spotless breeding-birthing fantasy.

Conclusion:

Misogynistic cowardly ignorant mansplaining.

Ignorant and mansplaining, absolutely, but I'm very reluctant to throw "misogyny" into the mix without good evidence. As weird and pretentious as the anonymous comment is, it doesn't strike me as misogynistic, and I think that word needs to be kept in reserve for other cases.

 

[Kasumi_Lee]

The commenter is a pompous know-it-all, and like many here I have serious doubts that the alleged midwife ex-girlfriend even exists.

But at the same time, I fail to see the supposed misogyny. It seems to me that everyone just tacked that on because of course they did.

I agree with you on this. The comment is definitely weird, and "pompous know-it-all" hits the nail on the head, but I don't think the comment is misogynistic. I especially don't want to slap that label on something without good evidence, otherwise it loses its sting when applied to the real thing.

 

[SmilingLez]

If the story was written by a male, the anon coward would not have commented. That IS misogyny.

 

[Britva415]

To some people, mansplaining IS misogyny.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

To some people, mansplaining IS misogyny.

As a trans woman, I find myself really, really, really conflicted on this whole mansplaining thing.

 

[SmilingLez]

As a trans woman, I find myself really, really, really conflicted on this whole mansplaining thing.

Why?

 

[iwatchus]

To some people, mansplaining IS misogyny.

Mansplaining is fundamentally men believing that they are somehow intrinsically wiser and smarter than women, I guess based on their anatomy. I don't know when that level of disrespect turns into enough hatred to be called misogyny. But it is definitionally built of a deep rooted disrespect for women, which is pretty damned close to misogyny if it doesn't reach it.