When being black isn't black enough

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WHO IS THE MOST POWERFUL BLACK PERSON IN AMERICA?
Well --- it’s damned sure not Al Sharpton, and it’s not Jesse Jackson. Oh, to be sure, Sharpton and Jackson are skilled at demagoguery and grabbing a headline or two; and Jackson is an accomplished shake down artist who has the skills to deprive a Fortune 500 company of tens of millions of dollars through class-action civil rights assaults.

Nope … not Sharpton or Jackson. I would argue that the most powerful black person in America is either Secretary of State Colin Powell, or National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. My vote? I’ll go with Rice. News reports this past weekend show her true power. It is said that she is the last person that Bush confides in, and listens to, before an important policy decision is made in our new war against terrorism.

So --- OK, fine. So Condoleezza Rice might well be the most powerful black person in America. So why bring this up? What’s the point?

The point is that the most powerful black person in America isn’t even considered to be a black leader. You don’t hear her being held up as a role model for young black women. So … why not? Well, being a Republican and working for a Republican President is, in and of itself, disqualifying. Now, more than ever, the definition of “black” contains a higher political component than ever before. Second, Rice isn’t considered a black leader because she doesn’t fulfill the principal role required of black leaders … she doesn’t play into and promote the concept and sense of black victimhood.
 
todd, people are rubbishing your argument without putting up any opposing viewpoint.......not good.
 
I would have to go with Colin Powell. Afterall, he is 4th in command of the U.S. Presidency.
 
Need a tissue Lav? ;)

Ok Todd, let's assume just for the sake of argument that your theory is sound. That the reasons Ms. Rice isn't considered a role model is because she works for a Republican, and that she doesn't go in for the whole black victimhood ideology.

How then, do you explain the fact that COLIN POWELL is a role model for not only blacks, but whites as well? Last time I checked, he was Republican, and ummm... black.

What has Ms Rice done to deserve to be a role model? Has she overcome anything? Is she an amazing human being? Is there some shining attribute that she possesses?

Just being black and in a position of power aren't enough.

Enlighten us.
 
pagancowgirl said:
Need a tissue Lav? ;)

Ok Todd, let's assume just for the sake of argument that your theory is sound. That the reasons Ms. Rice isn't considered a role model is because she works for a Republican, and that she doesn't go in for the whole black victimhood ideology.

How then, do you explain the fact that COLIN POWELL is a role model for not only blacks, but whites as well? Last time I checked, he was Republican, and ummm... black.

What has Ms Rice done to deserve to be a role model? Has she overcome anything? Is she an amazing human being? Is there some shining attribute that she possesses?

Just being black and in a position of power aren't enough.

Enlighten us.
now we have a debate
 
Who wrote this, Todd?

Todd said:
WHO IS THE MOST POWERFUL BLACK PERSON IN AMERICA?
Well --- it’s damned sure not Al Sharpton, and it’s not Jesse Jackson. Oh, to be sure, Sharpton and Jackson are skilled at demagoguery and grabbing a headline or two; and Jackson is an accomplished shake down artist who has the skills to deprive a Fortune 500 company of tens of millions of dollars through class-action civil rights assaults.

Nope … not Sharpton or Jackson. I would argue that the most powerful black person in America is either Secretary of State Colin Powell, or National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. My vote? I’ll go with Rice. News reports this past weekend show her true power. It is said that she is the last person that Bush confides in, and listens to, before an important policy decision is made in our new war against terrorism.

So --- OK, fine. So Condoleezza Rice might well be the most powerful black person in America. So why bring this up? What’s the point?

The point is that the most powerful black person in America isn’t even considered to be a black leader. You don’t hear her being held up as a role model for young black women. So … why not? Well, being a Republican and working for a Republican President is, in and of itself, disqualifying. Now, more than ever, the definition of “black” contains a higher political component than ever before. Second, Rice isn’t considered a black leader because she doesn’t fulfill the principal role required of black leaders … she doesn’t play into and promote the concept and sense of black victimhood.
Because we all know you didn't.
 
GuyJD said:
I would have to go with Colin Powell. Afterall, he is 4th in command of the U.S. Presidency.

Actually the Secretary of State is fifth in line for succession to the Presidency.

After the Vice-President comes the Speaker of the House of Representatives (Denny Hastert), followed by the President pro tempore (senior member) of the Senate, who at the present time happens to be....you guessed it!...Strom "anybody got any spare adult diapers?" Thurmond, and then Colin Powell.

God save Dick and Denny, please.
 
pabloback said:
todd, people are rubbishing your argument without putting up any opposing viewpoint.......not good.

Good point, pablo, but I can rarely ramp up the energy to state an opposing viewpoint to Todd's nonsense, for two good reasons:

His statements are childish, uninformed and generally lifted from unnamed sources, and;

He never returns to defend them. He just tosses his stink-bombs and runs away.

Given that, I think "Bullshit" says it all.
 
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