What's wrong with "woke"?
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It's like being Christian. Think about it.
No, it isn't, not at all.It's like being Christian. Think about it.
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Sure it is.
Jesus was aware of social injustice, but only in the rich vs. poor sense.Sure it is.
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People who aren't Christian don't want to hear about it, be preached to about it, or forced to believe in it in any way.
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“Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn’t American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer; was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a co-pay; and was a long-haired, brown-skinned, homeless, community-organizing, anti-slut-shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.” John Fugelsang
WTF would a Christian conservative republican know about Jesus?
Kinda off-topic, but Jesus lied. He promised the Kingdom of God was coming.
And he was not talking about the afterlife -- he did not mean, "I am about to die in a way that will make it possible for you to get into Heaven."
Nor was he talking about any personal conversion experience -- he did not mean, "You can cultivate the Kingdom of God within your own soul."
No, what he meant was, "God is about to drive the Romans out of Judea. And, in the process, God will put down the aristocrats -- the priests and Sadducees, the Herodian royalty, the rich in general -- and create an egalitarian utopia."
None of that happened. Jesus lied.
See Zealot, by Reza Aslan.
And he was not talking about the afterlife -- he did not mean, "I am about to die in a way that will make it possible for you to get into Heaven."
Nor was he talking about any personal conversion experience -- he did not mean, "You can cultivate the Kingdom of God within your own soul."
No, what he meant was, "God is about to drive the Romans out of Judea. And, in the process, God will put down the aristocrats -- the priests and Sadducees, the Herodian royalty, the rich in general -- and create an egalitarian utopia."
None of that happened. Jesus lied.
See Zealot, by Reza Aslan.
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Replace "Christian" with any religion.
I presume you mean that "People who aren't [blank] don't want to hear about it, be preached to about it, or forced to believe in it in any way" applies to any religion -- and applies with equal force to "woke."Replace "Christian" with any religion.
That is both dishonest and irrelevant.
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It's the truth.
No. it isn't -- wokeness does not deserve to be compared with any religion. Religions depend on faith, and all faith is wishful thinking. Wokeness is a matter of seeing what's right in front of you.It's the truth.
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It's one group of people forcing another to accept a way of thinking they don't abide by. Are you dense or something?
That's false equivalence. It's like trying to equate astronomers with Flat Earthers.It's one group of people forcing another to accept a way of thinking they don't abide by. Are you dense or something?
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So, you are dense.
You are a Flat Earther.So, you are dense.
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You trying to convert me?
Welllll . . . just go over this.You trying to convert me?
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Have you heard the word of our Lord?
It ain't logos. You need to learn that not all the red-letter verses are equally reliable quotations. Jesus certainly never said "I and the Father are one." Jesus would not have approved of any form of Christianity after St. Paul got hold of it.Have you heard the word of our Lord?
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Woke connotes different things to different people. To lefties, it suggests simply being aware of social injustice and trying to correct it (often in ways that are misguided, but well-intentioned). It has origins in communities of color, of course, rather than among the young, white liberals who often embrace it today. To a rightist, well, they can't define it exactly, but it's anything that those young, sincere, earnest, sometimes humorless do-gooders want to do, whether valid or reasonable or not, often painting everyone who holds progressive views with the same broad brush, and even left-leaning centrists in some cases (to be fair, some centrist folks are pretty left-wing on social issues, but not so much on fiscal or foreign policy). It often carries a suggestion that those earnest young progressives are too easily butthurt, but let's be honest here, the folks who screamed of a "War on Christmas" because of Starbucks cups don't have any grounds to complain about "grievance politics" or "identity politics."
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You lost me. Better stick to posting links to convey your primative thoughts.
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