What Will Our New Normal Feel Like?
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Lancecastor19
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Like Mona’s tits on a friday night.
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it's our adaptability that'll determine how well we'll implement changes beneficial to mankind. that's the true measure of 'survival of the fittest', not the physical 'oh well, you get it and get over it or die' shite some throw out there in their ignorance.
i'd LOVE to think this will have the silver linings of a lot more working from home, so less use of fossil fuels and, probably, a closer bonding of family units. i'd love to think this will make so many more aware of hygiene practices, more home-cooking, more thought given to preparedness for emergency situations. i'd love to think this will drive forward state and national preparedness, the reinstigation of the bodies designed to watch for and develop vaccines for outbreaks of new diseases. i'd love to think this will make a lot more people make a lot wiser choices that benefit themselves, others, and the planet.
what i really think will happen is things will mostly return to how they were, pollution returning to such health-damaging levels, and money never having given up its throne. i DO think the 'work from home' thing will take off more as technology is now there to support that, but pretty much everything else will slip back into the same old bad habits.
i'd LOVE to think this will have the silver linings of a lot more working from home, so less use of fossil fuels and, probably, a closer bonding of family units. i'd love to think this will make so many more aware of hygiene practices, more home-cooking, more thought given to preparedness for emergency situations. i'd love to think this will drive forward state and national preparedness, the reinstigation of the bodies designed to watch for and develop vaccines for outbreaks of new diseases. i'd love to think this will make a lot more people make a lot wiser choices that benefit themselves, others, and the planet.
what i really think will happen is things will mostly return to how they were, pollution returning to such health-damaging levels, and money never having given up its throne. i DO think the 'work from home' thing will take off more as technology is now there to support that, but pretty much everything else will slip back into the same old bad habits.
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It should look like it did a year ago. This silliness cannot continue,
We are over a month into a lockdown that has resulted in less than 50,000 deaths and less than 1 million known infections. The death total is tragic, but it's also acknowledged that it has been adjusted to tilt toward blaming the virus when it is present when other factors may have been the real cause.
So what we really have is something more akin to a bad flu season.
The president got bad advice (up to 2 million dead!) and responded in the only way he could. Now he needs to step away from these clowns with the modeling that also brought us global warming, er, climate change, and open the country back up before that cunt AOC has even more unemployment to celebrate.
Enough damage has been caused by the China flu.
We are over a month into a lockdown that has resulted in less than 50,000 deaths and less than 1 million known infections. The death total is tragic, but it's also acknowledged that it has been adjusted to tilt toward blaming the virus when it is present when other factors may have been the real cause.
So what we really have is something more akin to a bad flu season.
The president got bad advice (up to 2 million dead!) and responded in the only way he could. Now he needs to step away from these clowns with the modeling that also brought us global warming, er, climate change, and open the country back up before that cunt AOC has even more unemployment to celebrate.
Enough damage has been caused by the China flu.
Typical flu season kills about 30k over a years time. This has killed 48 k in less than 2 months. Say Limbaugh is right and the numbers have been inflated subtract 10 k off that number still more than a years worth of flu. And were just getting started
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LImbaugh: This is the 19th Covid.
^^^Dear Pollyanna: sugar plums will soon fall from the sky if enough Deplorables will that to happen!
The cult has denied reality so far, so why would we expect them to do anything different in the middle of a pandemic?
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In the post economic apocalypse we will live in Thanos’ Eden of Austerity.
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Most of the country hadn't recovered from the 2007-2008 collapse. I come from an area that has been economically dead for forty years and know what unresolved impacts of multiple recessions layered on top of each other looks like. It's not a rosy picture. And this economic collapse is already worse than the 2008 one and growing.
Given that the federal government is following the Hoover model of economic relief from 2008, i.e. giving insanely large amounts of free money to the richest people in the country and letting everyone else fend for themselves, I think we're heading towards historically unprecedented levels of civil unrest in the country.
Given that the federal government is following the Hoover model of economic relief from 2008, i.e. giving insanely large amounts of free money to the richest people in the country and letting everyone else fend for themselves, I think we're heading towards historically unprecedented levels of civil unrest in the country.
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I have to absolutely agree that more companies will seriously take a look at the benefits of working remotely from home.
And who would have thought such a simple thing as toilet paper would now be a hot commodity?
Give a gift of toilet paper, aha!
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More work from home is one of those things that will by necessity need to be coupled with the death of the Boomers. Most of them have no interest in figuring out Skype or Zoom or any of the other myriad of things that are necessary to running much more than the bare minimum of work from home. Its not that a lot of things can't be done that way or shouldn't be done that way just that its highly, highly unlikely.
As for a strengthened family unit that's dead in the water. We very, very intentionally killed the family unit and nobody, especially not Americans are particularly keen on rebuilding that failed bullshit. For a great deal of us that would be a step in the wrong direction for no particularly good reason when you get down to it.
Nobody is going to start preparing for this next disaster until/unless we really make a major government push towards it and the Deplorables are against it too strongly. The best we can realistically hope for is sick time and higher pay being a thing and honestly I'd love to be shocked by this one, but I don't expect anybody to care what the guy at Walmart makes the day after this passes.
You can look at germs! Is that super power? How do I get it? Do I need to get bit by a radioactive germ? Find the sacred bacteria totem? Go totally Viral?! Do I get a catch phrase?
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Normal will feel normal.
I'll get up and shower, feed the cat, make tea, go to work.
I'll swing by Woolies on the way home, shower and relax for a bit.
Do some chores, organise dinner, water the garden, eat and rest.
I'll get up and shower, feed the cat, make tea, go to work.
I'll swing by Woolies on the way home, shower and relax for a bit.
Do some chores, organise dinner, water the garden, eat and rest.
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Is this sarcasm? Or...
What happened in your life that led to this perspective? Were you abandoned at birth?
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times do, indeed, change
when i say 'family unit', i might be thinking of something different from you: i'm not talking a definitive mum/dad/children 'unit' but any people who live together in the same household as a family (and that does, also, include the mum/dad/kids model).
adults spending more time at home might allow stronger cohesion with their kids, being there for them, and being there will often mean knowing more about what each family member is up to and if there are problems. it's never gonna work for everyone (i should know THAT well enough)
i'd LOVE to think this will help with minimum wage and a better appreciation fo most basic-pay workers; having said that, even now--in the midst of this--i'm not seeing any more respect being given workers at the local stores, no real acknowledgement that they're out there, every day, putting themselves at an elevated risk of contracting covid 19.
“What we’re going to be seeing is cutting deeper to the bone,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at Grant Thornton LLP. “There is this sort of sense of nowhere to hide, and more and more collateral damage.”
White-collar employees largely escaped the initial wave of coronavirus layoffs, often because the nature of their jobs meant it was easier to do them from home.
But even companies that managed to stay afloat have seen a big squeeze on revenue and profits, as large areas of the economy are shuttered. That’s triggering a second round of job cuts or furloughs, with office workers taking a bigger hit this time.
And managers are taking other steps too. In addition to reducing hours, a common measure in recessions, they’re also slashing pay levels –- which is much more unusual, and may be an ominous sign for the post-virus economy.
Salary cuts billed as temporary could easily end up as a more permanent feature of payrolls, with employees finding they’re expected to work for 10% or 20% less than before, according to Gregory Daco at Oxford Economics.
“That, sadly, is a reality of the recession that may potentially last longer,” he said.
Lower incomes would hold back a rebound in consumer demand to support the economy once the virus is controlled. For now, workers who lost their jobs are forced back onto savings or government aid.
With millions of newly unemployed Americans in the market for whatever jobs are out there, workers are likely to see their bargaining power sharply reduced – and it wasn’t great to start with.
Even during the record-long U.S. expansion that just ended, economists were debating why wages weren’t rising faster despite a historically low unemployment rate.
“When we get on the other side of the pandemic, it’s going to be a buyers’ market again for labor,” said Elise Gould at the Economic Policy Institute. “People will just be scrambling to get a job, any job.”
Story here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...ce-jobs-disappear/ar-BB131WQV?ocid=spartanntp
White-collar employees largely escaped the initial wave of coronavirus layoffs, often because the nature of their jobs meant it was easier to do them from home.
But even companies that managed to stay afloat have seen a big squeeze on revenue and profits, as large areas of the economy are shuttered. That’s triggering a second round of job cuts or furloughs, with office workers taking a bigger hit this time.
And managers are taking other steps too. In addition to reducing hours, a common measure in recessions, they’re also slashing pay levels –- which is much more unusual, and may be an ominous sign for the post-virus economy.
Salary cuts billed as temporary could easily end up as a more permanent feature of payrolls, with employees finding they’re expected to work for 10% or 20% less than before, according to Gregory Daco at Oxford Economics.
“That, sadly, is a reality of the recession that may potentially last longer,” he said.
Lower incomes would hold back a rebound in consumer demand to support the economy once the virus is controlled. For now, workers who lost their jobs are forced back onto savings or government aid.
With millions of newly unemployed Americans in the market for whatever jobs are out there, workers are likely to see their bargaining power sharply reduced – and it wasn’t great to start with.
Even during the record-long U.S. expansion that just ended, economists were debating why wages weren’t rising faster despite a historically low unemployment rate.
“When we get on the other side of the pandemic, it’s going to be a buyers’ market again for labor,” said Elise Gould at the Economic Policy Institute. “People will just be scrambling to get a job, any job.”
Story here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...ce-jobs-disappear/ar-BB131WQV?ocid=spartanntp
Sean Renaud
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I paid attention to history and how lives have changed. There was a time, not even that long ago where there were things like "The family business" Where you'd routinely have three generations of a family living in one house and it was the family house. Today if you're twenty five and live with your parents you're the butt of a running joke. This wasn't an accident by any stretch of the imagination. Going to the big city and escaping the family was romanticized before anybody reading this was even born.
Sean Renaud
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times do, indeed, change
when i say 'family unit', i might be thinking of something different from you: i'm not talking a definitive mum/dad/children 'unit' but any people who live together in the same household as a family (and that does, also, include the mum/dad/kids model).
adults spending more time at home might allow stronger cohesion with their kids, being there for them, and being there will often mean knowing more about what each family member is up to and if there are problems. it's never gonna work for everyone (i should know THAT well enough)
i'd LOVE to think this will help with minimum wage and a better appreciation fo most basic-pay workers; having said that, even now--in the midst of this--i'm not seeing any more respect being given workers at the local stores, no real acknowledgement that they're out there, every day, putting themselves at an elevated risk of contracting covid 19.
I don't even know if living together is particularly grand but I can at least comprehend the point you are trying ot make. Personally I kinda liked the barracks life, give me a room, a bathroom and I can share a big kitchen with a bunch of people because I don't need it all the fucking time. But yeah spending time with your kids isn't a bad thing.
I don't see this helping the minimum wage and sadly the Left has chosen to latch on to this Covid "look how important they are" and it shows how the Left fundamentally doesn't get politics. You need to get together with enough workers to take say two fridays a month off until circumstances improve. Enough people get paid bi weekly that grinding major stores to a halt on pay day would get their attention. But there is no cohesion in the US. When this ends it will go back to status quo because those people being important was 100% dependent on the rest of us being locked down.
