What the hell????

Dr. M said:

It’ll be more and more risky for an American to venture anywhere abroad, even in Europe, home of our traditional allies, and we’ll be less free at home.

US citizens will still be welcome in the UK. We even speak something like the same language (except in Yorkshire).

We don't blame individuals for the actions of their government. Remember than even those who voted for Tony Blair's party didn't necessarily agree with the war on Iraq.

We are perhaps more used to terrorist acts than US citizens are. We have memories, if only through earlier generations, of war randomly destroying our houses, our schools, our hospitals, our children - something that the mainland of the USA has no experience since your Civil War, and no concept of the destructiveness of modern weapons against a civilian population.

The IRA couldn't change our views with bombs. Hitler couldn't. By comparison Al-Queda is seen as less of a threat than the IRA ever was. We are wary. We are more security conscious because we know that the bomber can strike anywhere at any time and our police and security services have experience of the IRA.

Europe may be seen from across the Atlantic as a dangerous place. We see the US as more dangerous because of gun crime and drugs. There are very few places in the UK that are unsafe to walk through and most are safe even after dark. The few who attack strangers at random become headline news across the nation.

Muslims and other religious groups are largely tolerated and we don't blame all Muslims for Al-Queda. Why should we?

Don't be deterred from visiting the UK or Europe because of your preconceptions of what a US Citizen might expect as a welcome. You are more likely to be greeted as a friend than as an enemy - and that greeting would have been the same whether Bush or Kerry had won.

Og
 
ABSTRUSE said:
I woke up this morning to the realization that.......the sun still came up.

No one here died from what happened.
There are no troops in our neighborhoods.
We still have certain rights, one of them being to be in this forum and speak our minds.
We don't have to stand in line for food.
Warlords didn't slaughter us or cut off our limbs.
We have somewhat clean drinking water and better yet, indoor plumbing.
We have hospitals and shopping centers and banks.
We have cars and homes and family and friends...some of us even have our health.
We can pass over the border into the next state without fear.
Aliens didn't land in our back yards and vaporize us.

okay, what I'm trying to say is that, it's not as bad as we can make it out to be.......it may not be good at times, but it's not as horrible as others around the world have....by golly some people don't have the internet

I just wanted to try to project some postive vibes here folks.....we are writers of smut...publically viewed and sometimes trolled, but damnit...it's ours.

So.....feel free to humiliate, flog , defame, throw rocks at me or do what ever may help.......Dunk the clown(Me) if you must. I'll let it go for today without retribution.

Abs:rose:

Ya know . . .I don't know what y'all are thinking down there, since it is below my belt, I'd had hoped most were thinking with their head :D Sigh - nada. Answers ok :) as the greater world sees it:

No one died, but people were either paid off or threatened :D

Your country closed borders. No troops? Beg to differ on how hard it is being a Canadian, let alone a name like Omar and black (he won't mind). No troops, true, they call themselves Customs or gangs.

Being in this forum? We will talk honey, in FOUR MORE YEARS, when you can't.

What you talking about lines? Ever been to Walmart?

Warlords? No, but mafia. Yes.

The plumbing thing is happening, and your Starbucks carboard cups go to building houses in Mozambique :)

Sure hospitals, if you have insurance, if not an arm and a leg are mandatory. And, as Canadian you have to pay tips to get good sevice, even WITH Blue Cross.

Cars, yes - Kyoto, and banks yes, Swiss.

You can pass to the next state for a fee and apparently every alien bangs on the door of the U.S. according to Hollywood.

According to the news I get here, its bad baby. Its 'hood bad, even according to the third world.

The positive vibes are: The anti-christ is here, we know who it is, and we still have time to head to the hills. :D or assasinate him.

LOL
All in fun.
 
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The Antichrist is supposed to rule for 7 years, so I suppose the result shouldn't have been so unexpected... :(
 
Lauren Hynde said:
The Antichrist is supposed to rule for 7 years, so I suppose the result shouldn't have been so unexpected... :(

Alas :D the anti christ has waged war in the first four years. The next three ARE hell - you know it birth pangs rising, weather wierd, guise of peace, um . . . ya ;)
 
Lauren Hynde said:
The Antichrist is supposed to rule for 7 years, so I suppose the result shouldn't have been so unexpected... :(
Does that mean we'll have grounds for an impeachment in 3 years from now, or that someone offs the guy?

Let's wish for the former. I don't like offing.

#L
 
Liar said:
Does that mean we'll have grounds for an impeachment in 3 years from now, or that someone offs the guy?

Let's wish for the former. I don't like offing.

#L
I think that's Armageddon. ;)
 
SnoopDog said:
Understood. That might be my problem, because since I'm, not an american of course I'll focus mainly on the foreign politics of the US of A. But I also don't really think that George W is the best choice when it comes to inner politics. But on that I can't really comment, because I lack insight.

Snoopy

W is as useless as tits on a boar hog hun. Everything he touches falls apart. It isn't that he was the best choice, he was the only choice if you are a conservative or have a hot button issue that falls outside the liberal camp.

My brothers were raised around guns all their life. Hunting is not only their favorite recreational activity, they share memories of hunting with their father and grand father, especially precious now that he has passed. A faction of liberals want to take that away from them. This faction of liberals have fostered that goal on the Democratic party. It would be akin to sacrilidge to suggest to them they should vote for the party that wants to do this in retaliation for Bush being a twit.

That's one small issue, where the man standing at the head of the party makes no difference, it's the party's stance that's important. There are hundreds of such issues. They are the issues that drive the core of each party. The campaigning and prostelitizing aren't amied at these core voters, they are aimed at undecideds and moderates. The swing voters if you will.

They are the minority who may hold a candidate accountable for his actions and promises, the core dosen't beacuse he is going to conform to core values win, loose or draw.

In the example of my brothers, Bush let the assault weapons ban lapse. That's what his gun lobby core expected of him and he came through. He earned their vote the next time around, even if he screwed up ten ways to sunday everywhere else.

-Colly
 
Joe Wordsworth said:
Eh... I don't think the president is the anti-christ.

SUCH an agnostic :) Actually he could never be, BUT, (and like to read this better) beside that pseudo-point :D Girls in Av are good, very good ;)

Where HAVE you been my intellectual . . . stop . . . where? :)
 
CharleyH said:
SUCH an agnostic :) Actually he could never be, BUT, (and like to read this better) beside that pseudo-point :D Girls in Av are good, very good ;)

Where HAVE you been my intellectual . . . stop . . . where? :)

I love the heiroglyphics that are Charley:cool: :rose:
 
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