What laws are broken when politicians...

[Lost Cause]

Use their elected positions to propose bills designed to be utilized at a later date in a direct lie against the opposition?





An email is circulating around about Dubya's going to enact a draft in 2005 with reference to the bills as proof.
Trouble is, the bills that have NO backing were introduced by democratic representatives.

Modus?

 

[ruminator]

Are those the bills that were introduced at the start of the war?

 

[plasticman33]

Use their elected positions to propose bills designed to be utilized at a later date in a direct lie against the opposition?





An email is circulating around about Dubya's going to enact a draft in 2005 with reference to the bills as proof.
Trouble is, the bills that have NO backing were introduced by democratic representatives.

Modus?

The draft bill was introduced by Charles Rangel, D/NY back in January 2003. It hasn't gone anywhere except back and forth in commitee. The Republicans won't support it.

 

[Jean Val Jean]

The Democrats operate on a pure Machiavellian mode and hence lying and deceit are acceptable for the greater good of your cause.

Ask Dan Rather!



He wouldn't point out the Democrat sourcing either, just ask about whether or not we should look at the seriousness of such a charge against Bush that he would have "secret" plans...

 

[Jean Val Jean]

Rangel is a typical modern Democrat who believes in two things: More, and more from the rich. He figures at once that we solve the Iraqi problem with more troops and more money and that if we weight the draft so that only rich white college boys go into the service it will end war forever…

His is a social apartheid draft.

 

[Ishmael]

I was debating this with one of the boards 'libidiots'.

I pointed out that both the house and senate bills were introduced by the democrats.

And then this 'libidiot' tells my how unfair the all volunteer Army is. Overly represented by minorities and lower middle class.

Sooooooooooo, here we have a 'libidiot' saying that Bush has a 'secret' plan to reinstate the draft, but it's a damned good idea and the democrats are 100% behind it.

You got to love their twisted little minds.

Ishmael

 

[ruminator]

Rangel has been consistent in his career in seeking parity in military service from all social and economic classes. Of course this bill also works as a political tool.

I'm not so sure it will be as quickly forgotten after the election if Bush wins. I think it's an honest statement to say we are more likely to be involved in further military conflicts with Bush rather than Kerry. The people have to come from somewhere.

 

[busybody..]

Actually stats show the percentage of COLOREDS in the military is the same as the population.


For those of you that take offense by my use of the word COLORED

Be advised that I use it because that is the word used by Rangel when he introduced the bill!

 

[busybody..]

Rangel has been consistent in his career in seeking parity in military service from all social and economic classes. Of course this bill also works as a political tool.

I'm not so sure it will be as quickly forgotten after the election if Bush wins. I think it's an honest statement to say we are more likely to be involved in further military conflicts with Bush rather than Kerry. The people have to come from somewhere.

So you are sayint that Kerry wont defend us? He will rely on the UN blue helmets to do it?

 

[Jean Val Jean]

Yes, everything I have read indicates that the volunteer army closely resembles all of America in its demographics. Even the rich paid a price, for football had paid Pat Tillman well...

 

[Jean Val Jean]

ruminator, we had better be involved with more military operations or the fanatics are gonna get the bomb...

 

[busybody..]

But Jackson and Rangel

say its a war by the COLOREDS against the COLOREDS

Where the fuck is the outrage about those comments?

 

[busybody..]

If any of you buffoons had bothered to read my C & P of the article from Al Hyatt, an Arab publication


You would alread know where we are involved and how we are and what we are really doing behind the curtain

 

[ruminator]

ruminator, we had better be involved with more military operations or the fanatics are gonna get the bomb...

No question about that. The difference is the type and extent of the military operations enacted. The administration of military accountability would help voluntary enlistment too. That is a Rumsfeld failing more than Bush's but they are part of a team.

Bush is more likely to once again bite off more than we can chew, especially with the civilian influence he listens to.

 

[busybody..]

How come when LOON Kennedy says this:

Kennedy: Bush makes USA more vulnerable to nuke attack...



No comments from the press?

And when Cheney says we are more likely to be the point of attack if Kerry gets in, the press blows a gasket?

The former aint so, the latter is fact!

 

[ruminator]

Those bills aren't just about the draft. They're suggesting a mandatory period of national service. This would be required with or without active conflicts and not be especially designed to just gather people to send to war.

 

[busybody..]

Its NUANCE BS crap like that

that infuriates most normal people!


BTW!

What SeeBS crap will you post today?

You know I wont let you get away with it!

I am the RUMI FACT CHECKER@

 

[Slider69]

HR 163 was sponsored by some of the leftiest loons in the House...including that total nutjob Sheila "terrorisn" Jackson-Lee...

S 89 was sponsored by Hollings no less.

It's languished in committee. I'd like to see it be killed outright if possible, but it'll spin around and won't gain traction.

those that paint this as a Bush "secret plan" to enact the draft are idiots indeed.