What is the current obession with women shaving?

[smartandsexy]

So does anyone have any pics of this 'typical' woman who is hairless?

Personally, I think that I'm way too naturally hairy to NOT shave my legs. Hair traps bacteria and smells, so the underarm hair has to go. My cooter is not completely bald, but it's VERY closely trimmed. Partially because I don't like the look of incredible amounts of hair, and partly because I don't think my partner should need to pick my pubes from his teeth.

The 'unnatural' comments are cracking me up though, since sex for pleasure is unnatural anyway, and shaving tends to (for me) enhance pleasure.

Prototypical, not typical. If you want pics, look no further than the porn pics threads on the front page of the GB, I'm sure you'll find heaps.

You have sex for pleasure ???!!! Freak! For me, it's not an issue of natural or un-natural....as someone that started going grey early, I'm not going to argue about keeping all of my hair 'natural'

 

[John Doe]

...The 'unnatural' comments are cracking me up though, since sex for pleasure is unnatural anyway, and shaving tends to (for me) enhance pleasure.

Sex for pleasure is not unnatural for humans. We are one of the few species who have sex purely for pleasure. If we didn't like it, we probably wouldn't be around now, at least not in such great numbers, because Prehistoric humanity probably had no idea that sex and procreation were connected. So if they hadn't encouraged by pleasure to have sex, they likely would not have engaged in it nearly as often if at all, because they didn't know that to keep the species going they would have to produce offspring.

 

[John Doe]

Prototypical, not typical. If you want pics, look no further than the porn pics threads on the front page of the GB, I'm sure you'll find heaps.

You have sex for pleasure ???!!! Freak! For me, it's not an issue of natural or un-natural....as someone that started going grey early, I'm not going to argue about keeping all of my hair 'natural'

Define "early." I think I'm starting to notice a trend now...

 

[smartandsexy]

I'm not too surprised you've stooped to insults. You apparently have run out of even remotely logical arguments to make so you erode your credibility with personal attacks.

By the way, society is made up of people. It's not some entity that exists independently of us that we can conveniently blame for anything we don't like.

As I said, I see the distinction, but it is miniscule. And no it would not be my issue entirely either. If you really want to convey your point that much then you'd explain it instead of using a lot of psuedo-scientific psycho-babble as a smokescreen.

Saying that shaving itself is not infantilizing, but turning around and saying...well, let me quote it in its entirety: "It's the societal norm that the prototypical sexually attractive woman is devoid of body hair that is a reflection of infantalism," & " I think the hairlessness thing is part of a general infantilisation of women" Those contradictyour statement that shaving pubic hair does not have an infatlizing effect (I'd also like to hear what explanation you have for saying that hairlessness "in general" only affects the image of women and not men).

As I said before, if the only way a woman can meet the "[infantile] societal norm" is to shave, then does that not logically mean that shaving has an infantilizing effect?

It wasn't an insult it was a flip humourous comment.

Just because you fail to grasp or understand but disagree, it doesn't mean I'm not logical or clear. I've done enough scientific and social scientific writing to know that I write clearly.

Thank you, I am well aware that people make up society, and I never suggested it existed independently. If it did, then any relationship between the two that I am suggesting would not be possible, so you have attacked what I've said with an illogical argument. And problemetising something at a societal or structural level is completely different from problemetising it at an individual level. Let me give you an example to illustrate. I hate to see little girls dressed in clothes that are more suitable for an adult woman - cropped tops with 'sexy' on the front, or thongs for 7 year olds. But I don't blame the 7 year olds for wanting that. It's something about society in general that needs to be addressed. Understand a bit better now? The distinction is not that subtle at all, but even if it were, are you suggesting that we shouldn't make subtle distinctions - that we should dumb down and oversimplify so as to completely obscure the issue?

And I'm aware that my ideas are just my opinion and not some kind of rarified 'fact'. I was just drawing attention to what has become a dominant discourse in our society and has an influence on us. Most women will be influenced by that to some extent. That doesn't mean that they are passive subjects of that, and there choice to remove their pubic hair may not even reflect that. In the same way that we had a dominant discourse of women as homemakers that was not a helpful one for women. That doesn't mean that a woman can't choose that path for positive reasons, it just means that she should have more of a freedom to choose.

I'll say it again as I don't seem to have said it enough. I support a individual woman's choice to do whatever she wants with her body and I've not criticised anyone for their choice. The thread asked where this very recent trend came from and I was presenting my thoughts on that. If you have alternative suggestions, by all means present them rather than just attacking me for expressing mine.

I didn't say that shaving doesn't have an infantalising effect. Let me clarify that: 'I do not think that shaving is infantilisation of women'. I think to a certain degree it infantilises the individual woman on a purely visual level as she becomes more visually similar to a child than she is when she has hair. And in case you don't understand the subtelty of that, I am not saying that a woman with no pubic hair looks like a child. Ok? What I said about individuals shaving was that it was a personal choice and I've not criticised an individual choice.

And I've repeated myself over and over and over, I don't know that it'll do any good. I gave my opinions about where I think the trend came from. A lot of people will disagree. It doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong, it's just differences of opinion, and maybe you should learn to 'keep your hair on' and not get so uptight about it

 

[smartandsexy]

Define "early." I think I'm starting to notice a trend now...

A trend? Cool! Tell me all about it.....

 

[Dionysian Beast]

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Show us your snatch, baby. We don't mind that luxuriant fur.

Blow me

 

[Scarlet Kai]

I began shaving my pussy because a friend told me guys would lick me more if I did... after I did I realized that it makes any feeling so much more intense.

But anyway... For some strange reason I've never grown any hair under my armpits. It's a strange phenomenon, but I don't argue with it, I'm happy about it I have yet to meet anyone else who doesn't have any hair there naturally, but I like to think of it as a lucky step in the right direction of evolution.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

BST

My, SNS, I see that you carried on this debate for quite some time.
I hope you got some sleep.
I now know that BST is British Summer time, and that you are 6 hours ahead of us Americans on the East Coast.
So, I suppose you may be getting done with work shortly and see this message.
If so, I am sending my greetings.

 

[Lust Engine]

I'm not one to complain about a shaven woman. Hey, it's kinda nice to see a woman take care of business and glam up a little bit for us guys. A little primping for us & we're complaining?? I'm all for women looking gorgeous or at least FEELING gorgeous!