What is a "transsexual"?
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Chicklet said:
A transsexual is a person who feels that they have been born into the wrong gender, a person who is physically a man or woman but is psychologically/emotionally the other gender. It does not automatically mean a person who has had sexual reassignment surgery, it could be someone who is in any stage along the way between being one or the other. many TS's never physically change, it is a very hard thing to do, and is also very expensive.
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I very much agree with the above.
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See also "transgender" - the two terms are used pretty much interchangeably, unless people know the difference between sex and gender. There is a difference between transgender, transsexual, and transvestite, though.
http://dmoz.org/Society/Transgendered/ has a whole lot of links to explore. See also an article called Boys Will Be Boys...or not which was written by my girlfriend's ex-husband, who is intergendered.
Intersexed people, by the way, are what people often call "hermaphrodites" (this is a derogatory term for many) - both male and female sex organs.
Queersetti did describe it very well. See also this definition of transgender.
As for Ts on this board, so far I only know of one. Check out the this thread, near the bottom of the first page.
http://dmoz.org/Society/Transgendered/ has a whole lot of links to explore. See also an article called Boys Will Be Boys...or not which was written by my girlfriend's ex-husband, who is intergendered.
Intersexed people, by the way, are what people often call "hermaphrodites" (this is a derogatory term for many) - both male and female sex organs.
Queersetti did describe it very well. See also this definition of transgender.
As for Ts on this board, so far I only know of one. Check out the this thread, near the bottom of the first page.
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someone is bound to disagree with me but these are the terms as far as i know:
transgendered can apply to anyone who feels they were born the wrong sex.
a transexual is transgendered but has actually gone from a state of role play to actual body modification which usually translates to hormones (estrogen) and cosmetic surgery. The scale is furthered measured by "pre~operative" and "post~operative" (but by the time you reach "post op" there win't be anything left to measure)
a crossdresser enjoys dressing in the other sexes clothes but its the transvestite that does it for sexual kicks. a drag queen tends to dress for theatrics (and for a drag queen sometimes its work,sometimes it's sex).
the term "she~male" is actually a slang term and like the word "transgendered" can be applied to any male pretending to be female although it tends to be reserved for the most passable of pre~operative transexuals.
In all cases this in no way defines sexual preferance.
transgendered can apply to anyone who feels they were born the wrong sex.
a transexual is transgendered but has actually gone from a state of role play to actual body modification which usually translates to hormones (estrogen) and cosmetic surgery. The scale is furthered measured by "pre~operative" and "post~operative" (but by the time you reach "post op" there win't be anything left to measure)
a crossdresser enjoys dressing in the other sexes clothes but its the transvestite that does it for sexual kicks. a drag queen tends to dress for theatrics (and for a drag queen sometimes its work,sometimes it's sex).
the term "she~male" is actually a slang term and like the word "transgendered" can be applied to any male pretending to be female although it tends to be reserved for the most passable of pre~operative transexuals.
In all cases this in no way defines sexual preferance.
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I only disagree a little. I wouldn't call it "role play" - it's not play, there are complex psychological processes at work when living as another gender, and as such many people who intend to transition must go to a therapist for a long time. I also don't agree with your definitions of cross-dressing vs. transvestism...the distinction is nowhere near that clear, in fact many consider the terms interchangable. A close friend is a part-time tranny and agrees with me that the sexual kicks has little to do with it. I do agree about your definition of she-male, though.glamorilla said:
By the way, I definitely recommend this site for information on TG/TS/TV topics. Tons of definitions, links, questions answered, etc. Really good stuff there.
Transgender is the catch all for the whole she-bang. 
A crossdresser is someone who likes to wear the clothes of the oppsoite sex. No sex or turn on is necessary to fill this role.
A transvestite is a crossdresser but with the added sexual dimension.
A transsexual is someone who is seeking to change from one sex to the next.
As someone pointed out it is rather expensive. Firgure about $10K for the face to be cleared (M->F) and then anywhere from $10-$30K for surgeries. I met one TS who had spent over $80K on the transformation.
Add in the cost of hormones, psyche treatments, visiting the surgeon before the date, hotel, etc.
Drag Queens are a stage act.
She males is a termed used for anyone who looks predominately female but also has a penis.
Sexual preferences are all the place in the community and, in the case of TS, you can never be sure where you will end up. Knew a few girls who started out strictly lesbian but then met a guy who changed that and they went on to be perfectly hetero. Myself, I have always preferred the company of women. Boys are icky.
A crossdresser is someone who likes to wear the clothes of the oppsoite sex. No sex or turn on is necessary to fill this role.
A transvestite is a crossdresser but with the added sexual dimension.
A transsexual is someone who is seeking to change from one sex to the next.
As someone pointed out it is rather expensive. Firgure about $10K for the face to be cleared (M->F) and then anywhere from $10-$30K for surgeries. I met one TS who had spent over $80K on the transformation.
Add in the cost of hormones, psyche treatments, visiting the surgeon before the date, hotel, etc.
Drag Queens are a stage act.
She males is a termed used for anyone who looks predominately female but also has a penis.
Sexual preferences are all the place in the community and, in the case of TS, you can never be sure where you will end up. Knew a few girls who started out strictly lesbian but then met a guy who changed that and they went on to be perfectly hetero. Myself, I have always preferred the company of women. Boys are icky.
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you're so cute!
i bet they try tho~
i bet they try tho~
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if you do a few quick google searches youll find stuff to back the definitions up...and stuff that totally contradicts it. I pretty much hold what i wrote as true mostly becouse they're the most consistant definitions explained to me by dozens and dozens of people i know within the tg community~
Its all relative and basically up to you to define yourself with whatever tems make you happiest. One thing i learned working there is nothing makes sense and everything is definately through the looking glass~one of my oldest friends is a drag queen turned very passable pre op ts and has always refered to herself as a "gender illusionist".
Its all relative and basically up to you to define yourself with whatever tems make you happiest. One thing i learned working there is nothing makes sense and everything is definately through the looking glass~one of my oldest friends is a drag queen turned very passable pre op ts and has always refered to herself as a "gender illusionist".
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According to a bunch of tests I've taken (including the infamous COGIATI) and long examination, I'm one of the ones that's somewhere right in the middle of the gender spectrum. I've given serious thought to at least a partial transition but it'll probably never happen -- mainly because of lack of funds and probable family reaction.
And one stupid question -- is the COGIATI reliable or is it a joke? I've heard both from a lot of people, and I'd like to know what other people think on the subject.
And one stupid question -- is the COGIATI reliable or is it a joke? I've heard both from a lot of people, and I'd like to know what other people think on the subject.
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Jennifer Dietz wrote the COGIATI, here's what she put on her website:
Or, as my friend Caitlin put it: "The validity of the cogiati would be as valid as any IQ tests you or I could write ourselves; which is to say, not that valid at all."
Or, as my friend Caitlin put it: "The validity of the cogiati would be as valid as any IQ tests you or I could write ourselves; which is to say, not that valid at all."
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Another thing I'm curious about, LarzMachine - if you believe fall in the middle of the gender spectrum, why would you want to transition? My view is that transitioning is a binary operation - from one gender to the other. While I happily acknowledge that there are more than two genders, I don't see how that fits into transitioning. Or is it that you are in the middle but would prefer to be one or the other? I guess I'm a bit confused here.
Sorry, been away for awhile, real life and all that don't ya know.
Anyways, started to do some searches to gather some new resources and ran across this Etoile:
Glossary of Terms from NTAC
As for partial transition? ?? Perhaps Larz is referring to the RLT (Real Life Test) that TS women have to go through before being allowed to have the surgery. Length of time is determined more by the therapists and surgeons.
Etoile, I think it's great that you're seeking to learn more about Ts.
Anyways, started to do some searches to gather some new resources and ran across this Etoile:
Glossary of Terms from NTAC
As for partial transition? ?? Perhaps Larz is referring to the RLT (Real Life Test) that TS women have to go through before being allowed to have the surgery. Length of time is determined more by the therapists and surgeons.
Etoile, I think it's great that you're seeking to learn more about Ts.
