What is a "fake" submissive?

In my experience, a "fake" submissive is usually a whiny Dom's ex-girlfriend.
 
Hmm. How about the "subs" who come to the table with a) no notion of what they have to offer in the way of a desirable service, and/or b) a long list of what they "require" a dominant to offer them.

Lots of those types still running about I imagine.

ST
 
NemoAlia said:
In my experience, a "fake" submissive is usually a whiny Dom's ex-girlfriend.
Amusing shot across the bow, NemoAlia. I'm gonna answer the question anyway. :p

I would define a submissive as someone who is aroused and fulfilled when overtly surrendering a measure of control to her partner in a personal relationship, and has entered into a relationship in which s/he is doing just that.

Therefore, a fake submissive would be someone who is not aroused and fulfilled in this type of situation, but claims to be, and is in a relationship in which s/he may at times obey, but does so for manipulative or other purposes.

Softouch911 said:
How about the "subs" who come to the table with a) no notion of what they have to offer in the way of a desirable service, and/or b) a long list of what they "require" a dominant to offer them.
If I get to the point at which a woman and I are discussing the possibility of a D/s relationship, and she can *not* provide a long list of what she requires from the relationship, then I will proceed with her no further.

All human beings have individual wants and needs, and submissives are no exception. If a woman can not articulate what those needs are, then how the heck am I supposed to ascertain whether I'll be willing or able to meet them?
 
@}-}Rebecca---- made a good post about 'Wrong reaons to do S/M' here I think it sheds some light on what might be considered to be 'fake' or misguided ideas that motivate some into a submissive role for the wrong reasons.
 
Softouch911 said:
Hmm. How about the "subs" who come to the table with a) no notion of what they have to offer in the way of a desirable service, and/or b) a long list of what they "require" a dominant to offer them.

Lots of those types still running about I imagine.

ST

Yeah, I'd agree what those sentiments 100%, Soft. Luckily I've only run into these individuals on a few occasions, but to me it's blatantly obvious that their "submission" itself can be a form of manipulation. I've seen in one odd instance a Dom/sub couple (they were both very new to the lifestyle) with the sub acting incredibly clingy to her Master. It was actually embarassing to watch, but I then sorta realised that the act on her part was to pretty much keep HIM in line. Very odd thing to see, in my opinion.

So yeah, don't know. I have seen "fake" subs, but nothing really tops this one.
 
I have a list as long as my arm as to what would constitute a 'fake submissive' simple things dishonesty , inaccurate portrayl of self......................

I would be roasted alive on the Board if I stated them even under the disclaimer most here need to use being 'IMO'.

Perhaps one day I'll be reincarnated and wired differently and can share my opinions on this subject with a safety net ;)
 
VelvetDarkness said:
@}-}Rebecca---- made a good post about 'Wrong reaons to do S/M' here I think it sheds some light on what might be considered to be 'fake' or misguided ideas that motivate some into a submissive role for the wrong reasons.

Kind of you to suggest the article VelvetDarkness , seems the url may be 'off task' may I suggest this :rose:
 
A fake is a fake is a fake.

It doesn't matter to me if they say they are a Dom/me or a sub or someone who dupes everyone as an alt.

Once a fake, you'll be a fake, in most eyes and especially mine, from that point on.

;-)
 
"Fake" is very subjective, like "real" and "true".

I have to use a quote that I got from a friend years ago.

"One woman's/man's asshole is another woman's/man's prince." If the person is well intentioned, they will surely find what they seek if they search long enough.

If it is a whim or a BS search, all will be revealed. Just because a sub is not my cup of tea, that does not mean that magic will not happen for him with someone else.

Eb
 
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@}-}rebecca---- said:
Kind of you to suggest the article VelvetDarkness , seems the url may be 'off task' may I suggest this :rose:

Ooh, thankyou rebecca, how did you get that single post link please?

Bit of a slow learner :eek:
 
VelvetDarkness said:
Ooh, thankyou rebecca, how did you get that single post link please?

Bit of a slow learner :eek:
Click the #19 of this post. Upper right hand corner.
 
VelvetDarkness said:
Ooh, thankyou rebecca, how did you get that single post link please?

Bit of a slow learner :eek:

Apologies in advance for mini hijack........sincerely hope also there is not a 'better' way than I might advise IMO.........just click on the post No in the top right hand corner eg #38 ..........brings up a single post on a seperate page . Cut and paste the URL from that :rose:
 
Talk about slow ... ;)
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Apologies in advance for mini hijack........sincerely hope also there is not a 'better' way than I might advise IMO.........just click on the post No in the top right hand corner eg #38 ..........brings up a single post on a seperate page . Cut and paste the URL from that :rose:
 
Learn something new every day

Thanks, didn't realise the post numbers are links

Apologies Cutiemouse for the hijack

Velvet :kiss:
 
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