WHAT IF? WOULD YOU?

[Sparky Kronkite]

Okay - WHAT IF?

What if "you could" - "yes you really could," - have sex with anyone and have no negative reaction at all?

Let's keep it fairly practical - let's say, anybody you fantasized about in real life, on the street kinda thing, in front of you. Yes you could fly to them - but we're taking practical - you can "mentally beam some lover to your location." You have to seduce or be seduced.

So, again, what if? What if you could have sex with out any negative reprisals what-so-ever - would you do it? Have sex? And lots of it?

More?

If by magic - there were no social standards, no jealous lovers, no concerned parents, friends and family, no church thoughts - if there were no diseases at all - if for some unexplainable reason all the negative bullshit that, for most of us - keeps guys dicks in their pants and ladies politely crossing their legs - if all that, that, that stuff - were gone......

If you couldn't in anyway, get into trouble of any kind - would you hit on, get hit on, run wild, take many lovers, take one lover most of the time but experiment with many more to see how "they" were? Would you attend orgies? Would you, just maybe - be bisexual? Just for the sake of "checking it out?"

Let's maybe even pretend that we all lived in a society that came by all this naturally - let's say that humans having sex like this - is a natural and beautiful thing and that everybody did it. It was nurtured. Sex is good in this pretend society.

Now remember - we're pretending here - nothing, nothing can harm you in any way as a result of your personal, sexual creativity and the actions and way you choose to enjoy it - not one single thing bad.

In fact - if nothing bad could ever happen to you - and sex is good (Right?) - then all this potential sex, well it would be potential good right? Nab in this case - too much of a good thing is truly "more good" - higher levels of good - so more sex would equate to more good - for you. Because nothing negative can come forth.

So - would you?

I would. And more importantly - I think everyone would do it. That's everyone folks. I mean - why not, right?

And - I think - that regardless of the laws, the religious ideologies, the morals, what ever you wish to call our societal rules - that everyone, everyone - wants to have sex, a variety of sex and lot's of sex. They just don't.

And I contend that - that's the way it is. That's why rock stars do it. That's why Billy Clinton did it. And that's why Jessie Jackson does it.

I don't give a shit if you're a cop, a preacher, a bookmaker , baker or a candlestick maker - if you human and if you're healthy - you want to fuck. And you want to fuck lots too.

So that's why this "what if" thread. You see if I simply asked, "Do you want to have lots of sex with lots of partners?" Many would say no. The rules you see have programmed that answer to that rather simple question.

But if I ask it in a "what if" way - then those rules, the rules that enslave us - well, they can be "what if'd" away.

So again what if? Would you?

 

[TN_Vixen]

yes

of course.

 

[SweetCherry]

Oh God, yes! In a heartbeat! Where do I sign up??

 

[Countess DeWinter]

Hell yes!!

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Shit, my sorry ass -

can't seem to get into edit to clean up some of my spelling and typo's. Oh well, my appologies.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Yes but......

If everyone thinks this way and I (we?) think they do - then it follows that we must think that many of the "rules(?)" in place, rules that keep us from "doing this," that hinder our sexual pleasure - must be flat out wrong, old, used up, tired, outdated and even obsolete. Right?

So, if everyone thinks like that - why the fuck to we persist in quietly living our lives enslaved to those rules?

 

[Juliangel]

Oh yes!!!

 

[CreamyLady]

No, because even in a society such as you describe, personal preference will hold sway and I am very, very picky. If I don't like someone, no sex; and the chances are very good that I won't like a lot of the people. This goes for however physically attractive they might be.

Wow. I might be that society's first sociopath.

 

[SweetCherry]

I don't know that we all think the 'rules' are wrong. It's just the child in each of us, I think. Think about it. If there are no repurcussions or consequences, most of us would. Just like a little kid would each nothing but sweets and candy all day if they could. There's nothing wrong with WANTING to, but due to the consequences, we DON'T.

 

[Countess DeWinter]

Re: Yes but......

If everyone thinks this way and I (we?) think they do - then it follows that we must think that many of the "rules(?)" in place, rules that keep us from "doing this," that hinder our sexual pleasure - must be flat out wrong, old, used up, tired, outdated and even obsolete. Right?

So, if everyone thinks like that - why the fuck to we persist in quietly living our lives enslaved to those rules?

Sparky, it's not the rules! I've broken most of them in my life and will probably continue to do so. It's the OTHER consequences your "what if" erases. Disease. Pregnancy. All the negative emotional things that happen to people who can't separate love and sex.

 

[willywanker]

Put me down as an enthuastic maybe, I like the idea of no negatives but chalk it up to my upbringing, don't know if I could eve get them out of my head. But what great fantasies!!!!!!

 

[Never]

CreamyLady:
"Wow. I might be that society's first sociopath."

That would make me the second, though not for your reasons. If I'm allowed to run around and sleep with everyone then that means my lovers would be as well.

I'm a possessive person by nature - love and sex are too closely intertwined in my mind for me to be enthusiastic about a s/o fucking around like a Siamese at last call. Being regulated to Ms. Wednesday or Ms. Every Other Weekend doesn't sound satisfying to me and I'd let my displeasure be known.

At some point, I'd meet someone who I wouldn't be too keen on sharing. Your 'what if' doesn't change human nature. This experiment of your has been tried by people trying to make a 'free' and 'open' utopia. It lasted about a generation before the kids grew up and decided they wanted exclusive rights to their partner at which time the entire scheme fell apart.

You can take away disease, pregnancy and society's old guard of 'morality' but you can't take away human nature and that will foul you up every time.

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Oh, what a brave, new world that has such Spunky's in it.

 

[Guest]

One word

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Great discussion...

I wonder though if exclusivity in a relationship, possessiveness, and the possibility jealousy - are ingrained in all humans.

I wonder if "this is human nature" - or learned.

I mean, what emotion is innate in humans - any or all? Some of them and not other's?

Love? Is love learned? Or is it genetically encoded in many of us? Some species of animals seem to love - again genetic? Innate? Or learned - from us?

I belief that all human emotions are learned and that the only thing innate about humans is their unique physical makeup and the electro-mechanics of how they work, walk, eat, breath and crap - etc..

Thusly I tend to, even though I was taught them - cast off all negative emotions and mis-taught data. Whoops! Jealousy? Forget about it - gone baby. Not there anymore. Don't feel it. Not Sparky.

Getting rid of these mis-taught emotions allows me more room, room in my soul - to expand on the good emotions - more love, more well being and more elation in life.

That's how it works for me - in my life.

 

[Countess DeWinter]

Aaaccckkkk!!!!
Now we're just animals...I'll take the emotions, Spark. All of them!
With all its ups and downs, I'd still rather be human!

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Hey, I'm human.....

I'm just not like the rest of you "other" humans.....

I'm perfect!

I mean, I try.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

My one uninterpupted goal.......

in life, is to........

Walk the earth like Jesus. And fuck every babe that has the hots for me.

The perfect human existance.

 

[TonyG]

Sparky, if all of the pressures were gone, all of the negativity, and we can have sex with whomever we wanted... then we can also not have sex with whomever we wanted. I want her but she does not want me. So, I would be right back to where I was before. I think they tried that idea in Rome way back when and it helped to put an end to an empire.

We can't even talk about having sex with just anyone for fear of 'what would they think of me' syndrome. I don't even believe it would work here at Lit. If someone here was bold enough to state 'I want to have sex with ....' and that someone was not their RL partner, they would probably get flamed. Hell, there's someone here whose body I would love to enjoy but I could't say who it was because of my human traits.

I also don't think we would be comfortable in that environment, because of the way our heart and soul dictate our love and sex lives. It's a human thing and I am glad I have to deal with it, even if it hurts sometimes.


[Edited by tony_gam on 01-29-2001 at 01:32 PM]

 

[Gavin the juggling monkey]

Fuck me! of course!!
Beam louise Nurding, Cameron Diaz, and the corr sisters to my secret sex island, where i will will shag them until my nuts implode from exhaustion.

 

[jcgirl]

Well, that depends. Would my husband be able to do the same thing? Would I all of a sudden find myself transported somewhere because someone else wanted to have sex with me? eww what if they were a disgusting pig? Oh no, I just dont think so

 

[TonyG]

Originally posted by tony_gam
Sparky, if all of the pressures were gone, all of the negativity, and we can have sex with whomever we wanted... then we can also NOT have sex with whomever we wanted. I want her but she does not want me. So, I would be right back to where I was before.

Originally posted by jcgirl
Well, that depends. Would my husband be able to do the same thing? Would I all of a sudden find myself transported somewhere because someone else wanted to have sex with me? eww what if they were a disgusting pig? Oh no, I just dont think so

This is exactly what I meant.

 

[Iris]

Wait, getting wisked away by some disgusting slob would be negative right? And we're pretending negative stuff never happens so that wouldn't happen. I guess.

Anyway, yes I would, I can think of 2 people right now that I would choose. I think that's about all though, I'm pretty picky too.

 

[Cheri]

Spark baby, the original dilemma between what is learned versus what is innate is called Nature vs. Nuture. Ask any psychologist you find and most likely they'll all give you a different answer on which is more important. Should you blame your parents, your teachers, society or religion for instilling in us these pesky "rules", or should we damn Darwin for opening our eyes to evolution because now, no matter how rebelious we want to be in our hedonism, we can never totally get away from a couple of million years of cumulative learning.
So in my mind, as lovely as your idea is (pick me..pick me..pick me..), you never can get away from all those negatives....damn it anyway!

 

[Never]

Whose version of what's negative?
The 'disgusting slob' wouldn't think sleeping with you was negative. So, are we saying that ugly people don't exist in this dream world?

If jealousy doesn't exist because a negative trait of human nature and there's nothing negative in this scenario that would mean I wouldn't feel jealousy, and if I'm not jealous or possessive, am I really me?

A perfect world can only be inhabited by perfect people and since none of us are perfect none of us could be part of that world.

 

[Juspar Emvan]

Sparky

You have created a monster. The world you describe could only exist for one person at a time, for all the reasons detailed above.

But

If that would could exist for me? You betcher damn ass I would!