What If the Media Had Told the Truth?

[ShyBiGuy954]

What If the Media Had Told the Truth? Five MSM Lies for Which Trump Has Been Vindicated, and the Damage They Caused

https://thebluestateconservative.co...s-been-vindicated-and-the-damage-they-caused/

Remember that time when the mainstream media lied about former President Donald J. Trump, only to have Trump proven correct afterwards? “Can you be more specific,” you ask? Good point. There are so many to mention, we need to be more precise, so let’s narrow the list down to five, and let’s consider the true impact of their dishonesty. While the media may have been successful in sustaining political damage against Trump, the Republican Party, and the conservative movement – which was their ultimate goal, no doubt – they also caused significant collateral damage, either unwittingly or uncaringly.


1. The Russia Hoax –
For those of us on the political right, it’s easy to forget the magnitude of this farce. We were bombarded with nonsense every day, we agonized over the ridiculousness of it all, and many of us have tried to put this circus behind us. The loser of the 2016 presidential election Hillary Clinton, along with her Democrat apologists, pushed on this narrative from the beginning. Trump was an illegitimate president due to his collusion with Russia leading up to the election, they said, an infraction so malicious he may have actually been guilty of treason and deserving of the death penalty. There have been instances of political malice between parties in our nation’s past, but never one quite like this.......

2. Hydroxychloroquine –....

3. St. John’s Church and Lafayette Square –....

4. Hunter Biden –....

5. Wuhan Lab was the origin of COVID –.....

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[phrodeau]

The Trump campaign accepted Russia’s involvement in the US election, and gave them information to help Russia’s involvement.

It’s a fact. Many were charged and some were convicted. Others weren’t charged because it couldn’t be proved that they knew they were committing a crime.

 

[WillJ8787]

The Trump campaign accepted Russia’s involvement in the US election, and gave them information to help Russia’s involvement.

It’s a fact. Many were charged and some were convicted. Others weren’t charged because it couldn’t be proved that they knew they were committing a crime.

Right...the media...which ones?

Fox, AON, News Max seemed to ignore.the facts and write.a.far.right leaning propaganda that supports their world view...not reporting.on facts.

All other media sources through.out the US and world.repirted.on facts and especially that Russia was not a hoax,.it was real and Contino to be real.

Oh well, suckers we born every minute and they believe all sorts of crazy stuff.like the FBI planned the Jan.6th riot at.the Capital.

 

[pecksniff]

What If the Media Had Told the Truth? Five MSM Lies for Which Trump Has Been Vindicated, and the Damage They Caused

https://thebluestateconservative.co...s-been-vindicated-and-the-damage-they-caused/

Remember that time when the mainstream media lied about former President Donald J. Trump, only to have Trump proven correct afterwards? “Can you be more specific,” you ask? Good point. There are so many to mention, we need to be more precise, so let’s narrow the list down to five, and let’s consider the true impact of their dishonesty. While the media may have been successful in sustaining political damage against Trump, the Republican Party, and the conservative movement – which was their ultimate goal, no doubt – they also caused significant collateral damage, either unwittingly or uncaringly.


1. The Russia Hoax –
For those of us on the political right, it’s easy to forget the magnitude of this farce. We were bombarded with nonsense every day, we agonized over the ridiculousness of it all, and many of us have tried to put this circus behind us. The loser of the 2016 presidential election Hillary Clinton, along with her Democrat apologists, pushed on this narrative from the beginning. Trump was an illegitimate president due to his collusion with Russia leading up to the election, they said, an infraction so malicious he may have actually been guilty of treason and deserving of the death penalty. There have been instances of political malice between parties in our nation’s past, but never one quite like this.......

2. Hydroxychloroquine –....

3. St. John’s Church and Lafayette Square –....

4. Hunter Biden –....

5. Wuhan Lab was the origin of COVID –.....

all stories continued in link.....

None of those were lies -- at least, not on the part of the MSM. The Russia Hoax was no hoax. It really is a bad idea to use hyrdoxyq to treat covid. The lab-leak theory is possible but still remains deep in crank territory. And so on.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[pecksniff]

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Trump did call Nazis "very fine people." I heard him. You heard him. And Biden did get 81 million votes -- I think that was the number -- at any rate a greater number than Trump.

 

[WillJ8787]

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Your making a statement with out supporting it with facts.

Your entitled to make statements, which are just your opinions and guess what?

Nobody is listening because it is just your singular opinion not backed up by anything.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

Your making a statement with out supporting it with facts.

https://thebluestateconservative.co...s-been-vindicated-and-the-damage-they-caused/

 

[pecksniff]

https://thebluestateconservative.co...s-been-vindicated-and-the-damage-they-caused/

See post #4.

 

[Rightguide]

Trump did call Nazis "very fine people." I heard him. You heard him. And Biden did get 81 million votes -- I think that was the number -- at any rate a greater number than Trump.

No you didn't. You heard somebody else say that. He never came close to saying that. The exact quote was read in his impeachment trial to disprove Democrat liars like you and those in the media.

 

[pecksniff]

No you didn't. You heard somebody else say that. He never came close to saying that. The exact quote was read in his impeachment trial to disprove Democrat liars like you and those in the media.

Wikiquote:

I think there's blame on both sides, you look at, you look at both sides, I think there's blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. [Reporters crosstalk] Well, George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down — excuse me — are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him. Good. Are we going to take down his statue? He was a major slave owner. Are we going to take down his statue? It is fine. You are changing history and culture. You had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, they should be condemned totally — you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

"Very fine people on both sides" is not an unreasonable nutshell of the above. If Trump was trying to distinguish the Neo-Nazis from the other Unite the Right protesters, that would have been a flatly dishonest and indeed a flatly preposterous thing to try; there is no important or relevant distinction between Neo-Nazis and Neo-Confederates. He was calling Nazis "very fine people."

 

[Rightguide]

Wikiquote:



"Very fine people on both sides" is not an unreasonable nutshell of the above. If Trump was trying to distinguish the Neo-Nazis from the other Unite the Right protesters, that would have been a flatly dishonest and indeed a flatly preposterous thing to try; there is no important or relevant distinction between Neo-Nazis and Neo-Confederates. He was calling Nazis "very fine people."

No he wasn't. He was referring to both sides of the issue which was the removal of confederate statues. Here is the quote from the Trump press conference in August 2017:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
And then qualified his condemnation of Nazis and Antifa.

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

Moments before these two quotes he said this in the same news conference:

TRUMP: Those people — all of those people — excuse me. I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.

So — excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups and you see — and you'd know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you're not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.


Here's the entire transcript:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/in-his-own-words-president-trump-on-charlottesville-protest

 

[pecksniff]

No he wasn't. He was referring to both sides of the issue which was the removal of confederate statues.

If he was trying to distinguish the Neo-Nazis from those who wanted to honor Lee because of heritage or whatever, that would have been a flatly dishonest and indeed a flatly preposterous thing to try. There was and is no difference.

 

[WillJ8787]

Trump did call Nazis "very fine people." I heard him. You heard him. And Biden did get 81 million votes -- I think that was the number -- at any rate a greater number than Trump.

Yes, I heard him say it during the press conference he held.

Low character lying folks like to say we didn't hear it. Oh well, that is why I don't listen to them.

 

[Rightguide]

If he was trying to distinguish the Neo-Nazis from those who wanted to honor Lee because of heritage or whatever, that would have been a flatly dishonest and indeed a flatly preposterous thing to try. There was and is no difference.

Read the transcript, dummy. Or have somebody read it to you.

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, I heard him say it during the press conference he held.

Low character lying folks like to say we didn't hear it. Oh well, that is why I don't listen to them.

I posted the complete transcript of that press conference, show me where he said that exact thing.

 

[pecksniff]

Read the transcript, dummy. Or have somebody read it to you.

I posted it before you did.

 

[Rightguide]

I posted it before you did.

I posted the entire news conference transcript. If you had read it, you'd see he didn't say what you said he did.

 

[Vetteman]

Just because people were there waving Nazi flags and shouting "Jews will not replace us" doesn't make them Nazis. Racist people just say that because white people were doing that. If black people were doing that no one would call them Nazis.

 

[mamanrc]

Alex Marlow's book Breaking the News is pretty good. I suggest everyone read it.

 

[Veroe]

Just because people were there waving Nazi flags and shouting "Jews will not replace us" doesn't make them Nazis. Racist people just say that because white people were doing that. If black people were doing that no one would call them Nazis.

They were there waving nazi flags repeating a slogan coined in Nazi germany about Jews trying to replace them, and a conspiracy theory espoused by people who do call themselves nazis. What the hell does that make them if not nazis?

 

[pecksniff]

Alex Marlow's book Breaking the News is pretty good. I suggest everyone read it.

Don't. The author is described on the cover as "editor in chief of Breitbart." Let us have no more cites from Breitbart, on this board or anywhere else.

 

[pecksniff]

They were there waving nazi flags repeating a slogan coined in Nazi germany about Jews trying to replace them, and a conspiracy theory espoused by people who do call themselves nazis. What the hell does that make them if not nazis?

Vetteman is a deep-cover liberal; he's only in this to make the right look stupid.

 

[mamanrc]

Don't. The author is described on the cover as "editor in chief of Breitbart." Let us have no more cites from Breitbart, on this board or anywhere else.

4.9 stars out of 5. What are you afraid of? The truth?

 

[pecksniff]

4.9 stars out of 5. What are you afraid of? The truth?

Customer reviews are no guide to reliability in that regard.