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BlackSnake

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What if Lit required readers to send the author feedback before accepting any votes less than 3, and automagically affix the reader's user name to the feedback. :)
 
Not a bad thought... doubt it's possible, with the software they use... but maybe... <shrug>

keep dreamin' <grin>
 
BlackSnake said:
What if Lit required readers to send the author feedback before accepting any votes less than 3, and automagically affix the reader's user name to the feedback. :)

At least to me, my score is pretty much meaningless to me. I don't write to try to gain a high score, I write to make myself happy. If in that pursuit I give people a bit of enjoyment, then my goal has been met.

One comment from one reader stating that what I have written has meant something to them is far more important to me than any number generated by a computer.
 
In a perfect world...

I'd like to not get one rating, but ratings by category. This would help me determine which elements of the story were widely accepted or not. Let readers submit ratings for each main character, storyline, and so forth. But, in reality, few go to the effort and fewer still would honestly rate a detailed feedback form.

But since we're fantasizing... why not lock their genitals in a chastity belt until the feedback is provided.
 
AsylumSeeker said:
I'd like to not get one rating, but ratings by category. This would help me determine which elements of the story were widely accepted or not. Let readers submit ratings for each main character, storyline, and so forth. But, in reality, few go to the effort and fewer still would honestly rate a detailed feedback form.

But since we're fantasizing... why not lock their genitals in a chastity belt until the feedback is provided.
Too complex, then the reader has to work when all they really want to do is wank off. The voting in most part is an after thought, unless they are trolls, then they would just give you ones across the board.
 
BlackSnake said:
What if Lit required readers to send the author feedback before accepting any votes less than 3, and automagically affix the reader's user name to the feedback. :)

Good idea. I would like to see the author have access to the list of people who voted for any story and the vote by each person. If I get a 3 from someone I usually get a 5 from, I want to know why so that I may be able to fix what is wrong. If I continue to get 1 votes from Joe Troll, I can at least let him know I ma aware of his pattern.

In a perfect world . .
 
I started to implement this idea on my site.

Implementation is very easy. When a vote is submitted, check to see if the vote is less than 3. If the vote is less than 3, direct the user to a feedback form with their username attached as read only text. Explain to the user that if they intend to case a low score then comments/feedback is required. Else accept the vote.
 
I like it!

"you hate me? okay, fuckin' tell me why.

You love me? just tell me you love me, baby, that's all I want to know..." :cathappy:
 
What if... we went one month without a 'scoring' thread?
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Hell would freeze.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
You know what?

If my scores didn't have some meaning to me I wouldn't turn on voting...

*gasp*

I'm not saying they are my end goal...but if one of my stories scores lower than others, damn it! I want to know why!

...and I take genuine pride in the monthly category nods I have received and in my brief but euphoric rides on the pinnacles of Group Sex & Non-Consent.

Sorry for the mini-rant...but it sometimes seems as though many of us either don't want to admit that it matters or actually are coming from a place where it truly does not matter. Then I feel a little self-concious because it does matter to me.

Speaking only for myself; if I really did not care what other people thought, they would not be posted.
 
BlackSnake said:
I started to implement this idea on my site.

Implementation is very easy. When a vote is submitted, check to see if the vote is less than 3. If the vote is less than 3, direct the user to a feedback form with their username attached as read only text. Explain to the user that if they intend to case a low score then comments/feedback is required. Else accept the vote.
Um ok. Let me get this straight. If a person votes a 3 or less, he is directed to a form that says that he should feedback. The person then gets disgusted and closes the window. His vote is not registered.

A person votes 4 or 5 and the vote is accepted without the need to feedback.

Won't it totally skew the ratings of the stories this way? Possibly stories will just get 4s or 5s when people do not bother to vote 3, 2 and 1. Won't the mediocre stories rise?

Am I reading this totally wrong?
 
damppanties said:
Um ok. Let me get this straight. If a person votes a 3 or less, he is directed to a form that says that he should feedback. The person then gets disgusted and closes the window. His vote is not registered.

A person votes 4 or 5 and the vote is accepted without the need to feedback.

Won't it totally skew the ratings of the stories this way? Possibly stories will just get 4s or 5s when people do not bother to vote 3, 2 and 1. Won't the mediocre stories rise?

Am I reading this totally wrong?
Just make it so there is no voting or PC's from Anon.
 
Dranoel said:
VOTE: 1

COMMENT: Your story sucks!

BY: Alt I.D.

First, I stated less than 3. (A programmer's job is never done :rolleyes: ) Votes of 1 or 2 require comments.

I think it could work wonders. If your story really does suck to the reader, then you'd have some idea why. Also, it may deture 1 bombers. You have a way of defending your story's rating.
 
damppanties said:
Um ok. Let me get this straight. If a person votes a 3 or less, he is directed to a form that says that he should feedback. The person then gets disgusted and closes the window. His vote is not registered.

A person votes 4 or 5 and the vote is accepted without the need to feedback.

Won't it totally skew the ratings of the stories this way? Possibly stories will just get 4s or 5s when people do not bother to vote 3, 2 and 1. Won't the mediocre stories rise?

Am I reading this totally wrong?
Actually, then the numbers of votes would begin to be the deciding factor in the ratings.
 
Stella_Omega said:
Actually, then the numbers of votes would begin to be the deciding factor in the ratings.
Hmmm. What about 4.65 with 10 votes as opposed to 4.64 with 100 votes? (supposing that the earlier didn't get the less than 3 votes due to it because it asked for feedback and people were too lazy to get to it.) Currently, at Lit, the former would be rated higher. What would happen in the new system?
 
BlackSnake said:
First, I stated less than 3. (A programmer's job is never done :rolleyes: ) Votes of 1 or 2 require comments.

I think it could work wonders. If your story really does suck to the reader, then you'd have some idea why. Also, it may deture 1 bombers. You have a way of defending your story's rating.
I understand what you're saying BlackSnake and as author I want to know why my story gets a low vote. However, I don't think not registering the low votes when there is no accompanying feedback is a good move. IMO, people simply will not bother.

I think there should be other forms of encouragement for providing feedback. Maybe promising nude pics or porn of choice? :p
 
damppanties said:
I understand what you're saying BlackSnake and as author I want to know why my story gets a low vote. However, I don't think not registering the low votes when there is no accompanying feedback is a good move. IMO, people simply will not bother.

I think there should be other forms of encouragement for providing feedback. Maybe promising nude pics or porn of choice? :p

I can do the pics, but if a reader feels strong enough to give a 1 or 2, then a brief shouldn't be that much trouble. I think that it would take away a lot of complaints about 1 bombers.
 
damppanties said:
Hmmm. What about 4.65 with 10 votes as opposed to 4.64 with 100 votes? (supposing that the earlier didn't get the less than 3 votes due to it because it asked for feedback and people were too lazy to get to it.) Currently, at Lit, the former would be rated higher. What would happen in the new system?
yes, that thought occured to me too. There are stories here that have lots of votes- because they've been online since the beginning, I suppose.
I would, as I've said, like to see;
A) voting scale from one to ten-
or else
B) A chart of how many of each vote has been given-
AND
B) some kind of accountablity for crap votes. Fewer votes would be fine with me.

And I will not pretend they don't mean anything to me, either- I don't make money with this.
I think my work is damn good, and I want to know that other people agree with me- or not.
The one-to-five system makes ratings very vulnerable. I deeply resent being knocked out of my little red "H" because someone has rated me a four because they didn't like gay action- why the fuck did they read it then? And the next person who comes along won't know that's the reason the story isn't deemed "hot" I have three storeis that zig zag back and forth, in and out of that damn "H". I feel like enough is enough. They are sexy and controversial, and they desrve the rating for that reason alone.
 
Stella_Omega said:
I think my work is damn good, and I want to know that other people agree with me- or not.
Agrees and bows low in front of the Master. ;)

You know, the stories I think are damn good (mine and others') do not have the H. It makes me wonder whether we at AH here are more literary than the general audience at Lit. I mean, it is a porn site after all. I don't think many readers look for literary merit.
 
damppanties said:
Agrees and bows low in front of the Master. ;)

You know, the stories I think are damn good (mine and others') do not have the H. It makes me wonder whether we at AH here are more literary than the general audience at Lit. I mean, it is a porn site after all. I don't think many readers look for literary merit.
*bows in return*
:rose: After YOU, my dear Alphonse! ;)
Unfortunately, I think that's it. What's to be done?
 
Stella_Omega said:
*bows in return*
:rose: After YOU, my dear Alphonse! ;)
Unfortunately, I think that's it. What's to be done?
*licks*
Write hot het sex with poor spelling and no grammar of course.
 
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