What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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Obamacare:

The National Part Time Labor And Dependency Act.


The vast majority of full time jobs already give health insurance. Are you suggesting that they'll stop doing so because now there's a penalty if they stop giving it? :confused:

The vast majority of employers that don't provide health insurance are small ones. Are you suggesting that because they get a sizable tax credit if they start providing health insurance that they'll definitely not give it? :confused:

Third question: the BLS labor report isn't showing any significant signs of employers putting a significant number of folks in part-time jobs. Name the month that this will happen. I'll give you a three month window, how about that? Obamacare signups start happening in four months so I'm sure you'll pick a date in the near future.

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Dow is up +.53%

Gold is down another -5.89%


Where's Vette to tell us he's totally fine with his hummingbird-sized nest egg?
 
You don't get it. I don't speculate in Gold I accumulate it. The fluctuating value of the Dollar expressed in the quoted price of Gold concerns little. You need to worry about the diminishing value represented by your Dollar not my Gold. I have universal value, you have that which represents value.


Yeah you just lost 40% of your investment in a heartbeat. The value of the dollar is boring but watching you lose your shirt following the Glenn Beck school of investment is a entertaining as hell.

And don't give me this accumulation crap, you're a senior citizen whose years are numbered. You're not a wealthy man and when half your assets disappear you're vulnerable as hell.
 
I'm suggesting that Obama care is a national disaster, a shit pile the American people would rather walk around than step in and track it all over the place.

You suggest a lot of things but few of them are true.
 
Yeah you just lost 40% of your investment in a heartbeat. The value of the dollar is boring but watching you lose your shirt following the Glenn Beck school of investment is a entertaining as hell.

And don't give me this accumulation crap, you're a senior citizen whose years are numbered. You're not a wealthy man and when half your assets disappear you're vulnerable as hell.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Oh, never mind. It's just the price of gold.

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Yet it is still worth more than any investment you MORONS have. :cool:
 
You don't get it. I don't speculate in Gold I accumulate it. The fluctuating value of the Dollar expressed in the quoted price of Gold concerns little. You need to worry about the diminishing value represented by your Dollar not my Gold. I have universal value, you have that which represents value.

You are free to believe whatever you like about the value of your metal, but the fact is that a few weeks ago you could have traded it for $1900 per each ounce, and now you can trade it for $1400. Call it universal value if that pleases you, but it is universally less than it was. You seem to ignore that the value of your accumulation is always expressed in dollars. If you prefer to convert the expressed value to potatoes, do so.
 
Glenn Beck? On the day he was born I knew more about investing, conservatism, and gold mining than he ever would.:rolleyes:

You have no idea what my financial condition is, none whatsoever. You are an assuming bullshitter of the first order. You hope and claim I'm a lot of things, you make unsupported statements in support of your beliefs, you tell outright lies, and drop innuendos, but you really don't know shit. you're just another class envying non-hacking liberal.

Just so you know. I am a partner in two active and productive federal gold mining claims here in California. In fact in a month this "senior citizen" will be on one of them, accumulating even more Gold, ya big dummy.:rolleyes:

MORON made a fortune in GM stock, even though it is still below the IPO price. :D
 
we know, just cause the LOGS say so, doesnt mean its true,,,WHOEVER HEARD OF A

TRUTHFUL LOG:rolleyes:



who KNEW there were SO MANY Easter Egg Hunts?:rolleyes:



Top Shulman aide frequent White House visitor

BY: SUSAN FERRECHIO JUNE 21, 2013 | 5:00 AM

White House visitor logs show Shulman's chief of staff, Jonathan M. Davis, appears to have...
While congressional lawmakers are questioning why former Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Douglas Shulman paid dozens of visits to the White House during his tenure, Shulman’s top political aide seems to have spent even more time working side-by-side with members of the Obama administration.

White House visitor logs show Shulman’s chief of staff, Jonathan M. Davis, appears to have visited the White House and adjacent Eisenhower office building as many as 310 times between the fall of 2009 and February 2013.

Davis’ background is in technology and had no expertise on tax issues , according to some IRS sources who said Davis served mostly as a political aide who served with Shulman to the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, where Shulman was vice chairman, and then followed him to the IRS.

Jason Stverak, head of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, said the visits raise more questions about the connection between the White House and the IRS at a time when the tax agency was targeting conservative groups. IRS officials said the targeting was initiated internally, but lawmakers have suggested that someone higher up in the administration had actually ordered the targeting.



“Why does this person have to go there 300 times when they probably don’t have the staff expertise to be discussing tax issues?” Stverak asked.

Former IRS Commissioner Mark Everson, now vice chairman at the tax consulting firm alliantgroup, said he rarely visited the White House and that his chief of staff was there infrequently. But his time at the helm of the agency ended before the implantation of the massive Affordable Health Care act known as Obamacare, Everson noted.

“The involvement of the service in a major domestic initiative like the Affordable Care Act does create the risk that the independence of the IRS can be eroded, and that is of concern,” Everson said.

Davis described his position at the IRS on the business social networking site LinkedIn as “strategy lead and adviser to IRS Commissioner” between 2008 until 2012, with a focus on modernizing the agency’s technology and implementing “significant new economic programs.”

The White House logs list Davis’ “time of arrival” for 85 visits, but that does not necessarily mean Davis was present for all or some of the other 225 meetings. Only a handful of meetings are listed as cancelled.

Neither the White House nor the IRS responded to requests about the frequency or nature of the visits.

Shulman and other IRS staff say many of their visits centered around implementation of the health care law and since Davis is skilled in data and technology development, he may have been working with the administration to modernize the IRS, which will play a primary role enforcing the health care law.

Many of the meetings Davis attended took place in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which is part of the White House campus. Other meetings took place within the White House.

Davis met there with economic policy advisor Jason Furman and Melody Barnes, director of Obama’s Domestic Policy Council. Davis also had meetings scheduled with Nancy-Ann DeParle, then Obama’s deputy chief of staff for policy; Cecilia Munoz, head of Obama’s Domestic Policy Council; Chris Lu, assistant to the president and cabinet secretary; and Alan Krueger, chairman of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisors.

Shulman’s tenure at the IRS ended in 2012. He was succeeded by Steven Miller, who was recently forced to resign following the revelation that IRS agents were targeting conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

During Miller’s tenure, his chief of staff was Nikole Flax, who also regularly visited the administration officials in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building and made several visits to the White House.

In 2008 and 2009 she served as a senior technical advisor in the agency’s now-embattled Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, which is under congressional investigation for targeting conservative groups.

Flax helped to write the IRS response to the audit that uncovered the targeting, according to transcripts of interviews with IRS staff conducted by congressional investigators.

White House logs show Flax, during her time at the IRS, met with Munoz as well as health care advisors Ezekiel Emanuel and Jeanne Lambrew.
 
Glenn Beck? On the day he was born I knew more about investing, conservatism, and gold mining than he ever would.:rolleyes:

You have no idea what my financial condition is, none whatsoever. You are an assuming bullshitter of the first order. You hope and claim I'm a lot of things, you make unsupported statements in support of your beliefs, you tell outright lies, and drop innuendos, but you really don't know shit. you're just another class envying non-hacking liberal.

Just so you know. I am a partner in two active and productive federal gold mining claims here in California. In fact in a month this "senior citizen" will be on one of them, accumulating even more Gold, ya big dummy.:rolleyes:
Are you making a lot on admission fees?

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