What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[4est_4est_Gump]

Post #19170

If history here is any indication of what merc considers significant tax-cutting, it will be along those lines...

 

[mercury14]

Significant tax-cutting for starters...

I never mentioned tax cuts. I said spending cuts. Try to keep up.

Ask Byron. I bashed Ahnold relentlessly.

I don't care what you did. The fact is Cali's 2-term GOP governor who was hailed as a fiscal conservative was nothing of the sort. Schwartz impregnated his maid and thenleft office with a $26.5 billion dollar deficit he promised not to have. Then Democratic governor Jerry Brown came in and passed a budget eliminating more than half of the deficit after one week in office. And he's putting more cuts up for the voters in November.

S'rious. You're a one-trick pony, attack, attack, always attack...

If only you were capable of defending your positions...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Then enumerate them...



Prove it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I said Ahnold was nothing of the sort even before he was elected.


Ask Byron.

He also had a veto-proof Democrat legislature to deal with. Still, he was better than Gray...

 

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[mercury14]

Spending cuts? You mean the 4.5 billion he just spent on high speed rail he didn't have?

You mean the rail system that went directly to the voters and was passed? You bitch about Democrats governing against the will of the people but then flip flop and say it's okay in the same breath. Classic vettehypocrite.

Wait, this is the rail system that's more than 90% paid for with stimulus money they'd otherwise lose?

The rail system that moves 220 mph, far faster than Japanese bullet trains?

The one that costs only $2.6 billion and not $4.5 billion, because the feds are matching their funds?

You need to pick better stuff to bitch about.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

*chuckle*

SAN FRANCISCO, July 10, 2012 -- /PRNewswire/ -- The Governor has signed the state's budget, but the final word on this year's budget actually lies with the voters—not lawmakers this year. Voters will decide through a November ballot initiative whether to raise $8.5 billion through increases to the state's income tax for California's highest earners and the sales tax. If that initiative fails at the polls, it will trigger cuts to schools and other programs to fill the gap.

Next 10's online California Budget Challenge (www.budgetchallenge.org) has just been updated so that Californians can tell state leaders in advance of the November election how they feel this final budget question should be answered. Users can learn about and choose from all the different tax proposals that will be on the November ballot, along with some other initiatives that could also impact the budget. The Challenge, an online nonpartisan budget simulator that allows users to create their own California budget, lets users share their results via interactive social networking features or email. Users can connect with top state leaders using these interactive features.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/10/4621183/fate-of-ca-budget-in-hands-of.html#storylink=cpy

 

[mercury14]

I said Ahnold was nothing of the sort even before he was elected.


Ask Byron.

He also had a veto-proof Democrat legislature to deal with. Still, he was better than Gray...

So? Brown has to work with Democrats as well. And he's putting spending cuts on the ballot. How come Kindergarden Cop didn't do that?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hey Gump, pick up a book by Lowell Ponte called the "Inflation Deception." There's some astounding numbers therein.

I'll add it to my list.

Still not seeing any significant budget cuts...

 

[mercury14]

Post #19170

If history here is any indication of what merc considers significant tax-cutting, it will be along those lines...

You're just making things up. The topic here isn't tax cuts or salami sandwiches. Try and keep up. Your constant red herring tangents border on compulsion.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You mean the same voters who have turned the state into a wholly-owned and operated failing Democrat model of governance and fiscal polity?


That's a real significant distinction...

:nods:

 

[mercury14]

I'll add it to my list.

Still not seeing any significant budget cuts...

I have them right here in my the next tab. Now, if I link the cuts for you, will you concede your point?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're just making things up. The topic here isn't tax cuts or salami sandwiches. Try and keep up. Your constant red herring tangents border on compulsion.

Prove it. You're just sputtering what you think you know without any backup facts what-so-ever...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I have them right here in my the next tab. Now, if I link the cuts for you, will you concede your point?

We're waiting with breathless anticipation.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

So? Brown has to work with Democrats as well. And he's putting spending cuts on the ballot. How come Kindergarden Cop didn't do that?

No, he's putting TAX INCREASES on the ballot...

It's the Obama-Hollande method to fiscal health...

 

[mercury14]

You mean the same voters who have turned the state into a wholly-owned and operated failing Democrat model of governance and fiscal polity?


That's a real significant distinction...

:nods:

California. Subsidizing economically-depressed red states since 1926.

 

[mercury14]

No, he's putting TAX INCREASES on the ballot...

It's the Obama-Hollande method to fiscal health...

A combination of cuts and tax increases are the best way to make ends meet. Of did you think there could just be $26.5 billion in cuts?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

At best it will be a cut in the rate of government growth. It will take a real economic revolution in order to really cut the the government other than Defense.

Back to the "draconian cut" methodology. If the budget deficit begins to grow a little more slowly, then it's real progress and fiscal sanity has been restored; you're still running a deficit, but the number just aren't as scary and as soon as the economy improves, why California will be just swimming in new money...

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

You're just spouting merc.


Put on your big-boy pants and bring an "A" game for once...

http://www.mercurynews.com/californ...gov-jerry-browns-may-revise-california-budget

The budget is only balanced on the backs of people who will be suing the state and who will hammer the political class to not cut them, and, as per usual in California, that is exactly what will happen.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Merc says, OH YEAH, it's not 4.5 Billion!

DC is paying half (but then he claims California is subsidizing the red states...)

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Page 12 merc,

Continued deficit spending...

 

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[BotanyBoy]

California. Subsidizing economically-depressed red states since 1926.

And look what helping out all those poor fucks got them.......fucked in the ass.

More reason not to follow the economic beacon of hope that is the bleeding heart hand out economic philosophy.

"But we need to help them!" no.....ya don't....they need to help themselves.

By all means teach them to fish for their own dinner, but let them perish if they decide not to...because if you don't they will drag you down with them.