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President Obama said Friday his administration would stop deporting some illegal immigrants who were brought to the country as children and have gone on to be productive and otherwise law-abiding residents, forcing the emotional immigration policy debate into the forefront of the presidential campaign.

Obama described his decision as the “right thing to do for the American people,” but many Democrats and immigration advocates also saw it as the right strategic move to boost his reelection chances.
 
Beco said:
President Obama said Friday his administration would stop deporting some illegal immigrants who were brought to the country as children and have gone on to be productive and otherwise law-abiding residents, forcing the emotional immigration policy debate into the forefront of the presidential campaign.

Obama described his decision as the “right thing to do for the American people,” but many Democrats and immigration advocates also saw it as the right strategic move to boost his reelection chances.
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No shit, Sherlock. That's what the President is supposed to do.
 
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4est_4est_Gump said:
My arguments are partisan.*

I used to be a Socialist-leaning Democrat.

But like Mises, Hayek and Bradbury, I kept an open mind, kept studying and am now a ROTHBARDIAN...

So sue me if you only want the Obama opinion.

I don't care.


Call yourself whatever you like. I'm not the one with "the Obama opinion." you seem to bring his name up all the time. I want informed opinion, devoid of blatant political bias. That's all.
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Uhmmm...

This thread is about Obama.

It's about how he saved the economy with his policies.

It's a thread in which the Democrats could gloat, celebrate and swoon...
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Take, for example, the attempt at soaring rhetoric: “That’s how we built this country — together. We constructed railroads and highways, the Hoover Dam and the Golden Gate Bridge. We did those things together,” he said, in a passage that was presumably meant to be inspirational but was delivered with the faintly petulant air of a great man resentful at having to point out the obvious, yet again. “Together, we touched the surface of the moon, unlocked the mystery of the atom, connected the world through our own science and imagination. We haven’t done these things as Democrats or Republicans. We’ve done them as Americans.”

Beyond the cheap dissembling, there was a bleak, tragic quality to this paragraph. Does anyone really believe a second-term Obama administration is going to build anything? Yes, you, madam, the gullible sap at the back in the faded hope’n’change T-shirt. You seriously think your guy is going to put up another Hoover Dam? Let me quote one Deanna Archuleta, Obama’s deputy assistant secretary of the interior, in a speech to Democrat environmentalists in Nevada:

“You will never see another federal dam.”

Ever.

That seems pretty straightforward. America is out of the dam business. Just as the late Roman Empire no longer built aqueducts, so we no longer build dams. In fairness to the Romans, they left it to the barbarians to sweep in and destroy the existing aqueducts, whereas in America the government destroys the dams (some 200 this century) as an act of environmental virtue hailed by the deputy assistant secretary of the interior.

Obama can urge us all he wants to band together because when we dream big dreams there’s no limit to what Big Government can accomplish. But these days we can’t build a new Hoover Dam, only an attractive new corner office for the assistant deputy assistant deputy assistant secretary to the secretary of deputy assistants at the Department of Bureaucratic Sclerosis, and she’ll be happy to issue a compliance order that the Hoover Dam’s mandatory fish ladders are non-wheelchair-accessible, and so the whole joint needs to close. That we can do! If only we dare to dream Big Dreams!! Together!!!

As to “touching the surface of the moon,” I touch on this in my most recent book, whose title I will forbear to plug. Imagine if we hadn’t gone to the moon in the 1960s. Can you seriously picture Obama presiding over such an event today? Instead of the Apollo 11 guys taking up a portable cassette machine to play Sinatra and the Count Basie band’s recording of “Fly Me to the Moon,” the lads of Obamo 11 would take an iPod with Lady Gaga or Ke$ha or whatever. . . . Yet, even as you try to fill in the details, doesn’t the whole thing start to swim out of focus as something that increasingly belongs not only to another time but another place? In the Sixties, American ingenuity burst the bounds of the planet. Now our debt does, and “touching the surface of the moon” half-lingers in collective consciousness as a dimming memory of lost grandeur, in the way a date farmer in 19th-century Nasiriyah might be vaguely aware that the Great Ziggurat of Ur used to be around here.

But all he can see stretching to the horizon is sand.

So today our money-no-object government spends lots of money but to no great object. What are Big Government’s priorities now? Carpeting Catholic universities with IUDs. Regulating the maximum size of milk-coffee beverages. As Obama told us: “That’s how we built this country — together. We constructed railroads and highways. . . . Together, we touched the surface of the moon, unlocked the mystery of the atom.” And as we will one day tell our grandchildren: “Together, we touched the surface of the decaf caramel macchiato and deemed it to be more than 16 ounces. Together, we unlocked the mystery of 30-year-old college students’ womanhood. One small step to the Ikea futon for a lucky Georgetown Law freshwoman, one giant leap for womankind. Who will ever forget the day when the Union Pacific Board of Health Compliance and the Central Pacific Agency of Sustainable Growth Enhancement met at Promontory Community College, Utah, to hammer in the Golden Spike condom dispenser?”

Most of us don’t want a new Hoover Dam. We would like our homes to be less underwater, but there’s no danger of that anytime soon. Most of us don’t want America to go to the moon. We would like a few less craters on the economic wasteland down here. Soaring rhetoric at a time of earthbound problems — jobs, debt — risks making the president sound ridiculous. Granted, there’s a lot of it about this time of year — commencement speakers assuring kids who can’t manage middle-school math that you can be anything you want to be as long as you dream your dreams. But Obama offers an even more absurd evolution of this grim trope: “I can be anything I want to be as long as you chumps dream your dreams.”

Self-pity is never an attractive quality, and in an elected head of state even less so. Obama whines that his opponents say it’s all his fault. One can argue about whose fault it is, but not, as my colleagues at National Review pointed out, whose responsibility it is: It’s his. He’s the only president we have. And he made things worse. He increased the national debt by some 70 percent, and what do we have to show for it? No dams, no railroads, no moon shots. Just government, and bureaucracy, and regulation, unto national bankruptcy.
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Mark Steyn, NRO
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
You can't take it out of context until the guy tells you to take it out of context and then offers a double-dawg dare...
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You very deliberately took it out of context, exactly the same way as Cade does. Well done on sinking to a new low, I didn't know you had it in you.
 
SeanH said:
You very deliberately took it out of context, exactly the same way as Cade does. Well done on sinking to a new low, I didn't know you had it in you.
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Throb sagt, ich gewinnen!

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mercury14 said:
While you're at it, could you come up with a plan to cancel out America's nigger amnesty policy? And who gave Pocahontas and her drunk-ass tribe citizenship?
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I think you need to talk to merc about this issue unless you wish to say he is already at that level...


Merc’s Day Alt:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=33735857&highlight=physician#post33735857
The lying
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=800325
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
"I was taken out of CONTEXT!!!"
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No, the difference is you're willfully, maliciously taking me out of context as a substitute for making a rational argument. Meanwhile you ignore deep-seeded racism entrenched in your conservative allies here because you agree with their anti-Obama politics.

If you can take a liberal 100% out of context then you believe you no longer have to reflect upon conservative racism. It's all okay! Likewise there's no need to do a little soul-searching regarding conservative anti-women policies because Bill Maher said something in a stand-up act several years ago.
 
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mercury14 said:
Standing up and doing what you think is right. Otherwise known as buying votes.
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Its not fair to the people that actually fill out the paperwork...come here illegally, get a good job, do good things, and you can stay?
 
Beco said:
Its not fair to the people that actually fill out the paperwork...come here illegally, get a good job, do good things, and you can stay?
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He's talking about children who were brought here by illegal immigrant parents and have grown up as Americans, working and living as Americans.

We should toss them out?

Fuck off. :rolleyes:
 
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Clamoring for my attention little Koalatroll?

Do the universe a favor and crawl away somewhere quiet and expire.
 
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