What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[RobDownSouth]

I see, it wasn't a "lie", it was "sarcasm"..

It's extremely hard to debate someone who defines certain words to have novel and unique meanings. "Up" can mean "Down", "In" can mean "Out" and "Invested in the stock market" can mean "bought gold" or "bought stock" or "let me see what the stock market does on Monday and I'll tell you then".

 

[Beco]

Yes. It's a FACT that algae will reduce our transportation costs 17%.

They have a model for that too...

Lets build pools!

Thousands...

Algae fuel sounds expensive.....but I thought liberals were for wind power? solar power? why not focus on that?

 

[mercury14]

It sure is. same speech, same two paragraphs, same official website that you demanded I go read.

Funny thing that. You always blast my sources without reading them, but I read yours...

Hmmm...

I guess that makes you the smart guy.

No, you lied. And you're lying a fourth time just as I predicted. Now your lie changed from "Obama really said that" to "Well okay I lied but let's pretend I didn't lie".

When you read the actual speech, it makes AJ looks much worse.

President Obama is not talking about replacing 17% of our needs with algae.
He's not even talking about replacing 17% of our imported oil with algae.
He's talking about replacing 17% of the imported oil used for transportation (as opposed to fuel oil for heating and stuff).

It can't be any clearer than this.

 

[mercury14]

Algae fuel sounds expensive.....but I thought liberals were for wind power? solar power? why not focus on that?

Your posts are just depressing.

 

[Beco]

Your posts are just depressing.

you want to live in the real world or not?

 

[Bad_Doggie]

My my, Government Motors is going to lay off 1300 Volt workers...

UD, call your office:

Inflation: Not as low as you think
Forget the modest 3.1 percent rise in the Consumer Price Index, the government's widely used measure of inflation.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-57387655/inflation-not-as-low-as-you-think/

*yawn*


Got anything on how Obama is going to lower energy prices with Algae?

Is anyone else sensing a growing atmosphere of desperation?

Woof!

 

[Bad_Doggie]

http://shaynetilley.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/deep_hole.jpg

How’s things going today AJ, much deeper I see?

Woof!

 

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[RightField]

Yes. It's a FACT that algae will reduce our transportation costs 17%.

They have a model for that too...

Lets build pools!

Thousands...

That's a great idea! Lets go for it. What will we call it? I think the name "Solyndra" is available now!

 

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[garbage can]

That's a great idea! Lets go for it. What will we call it? I think the name "Solyndra" is available now!

A lot of gum flapping going on here.

If algae were worth a piss hole in the snow, the venture capitalists would be all over it.

Obama needs to drive the price of gasoline up to $10.00 per gallon for any of his bullshit ideas to become viable.

 

[richard_daily]

No you're full of shit. Ink forms that come into contact with the plate are not copper coated, but oscillating ink forms can be copper, chrome, or nylon coated, they're called vibrators and are designed to reduce ghosting. it is you who don't know what you're talking about.

I did exactly as I said I did from 1976-06. I don't give two shits if you believe it or not.

A form roller comes into contact with the plate... that's why it's called a form roller, because it inks the form. Now you're trying to call rollers that aren't form rollers, "form rollers", typical bullshit, and once again, you're proving that you really have no clue what you're talking about...

You're clearly full of shit about what you did for a living.

 

[koalabear]

Another solar company bites the dust after a government loan!

 

[RightField]

A lot of gum flapping going on here.

If algae were worth a piss hole in the snow, the venture capitalists would be all over it.

Obama needs to drive the price of gasoline up to $10.00 per gallon for any of his bullshit ideas to become viable.

Yeah, I was being facetious. In any case, it has to prove itself economically before any practical effort for production use is considered. This is why it was silly for Obama to even mention it in a speech regardless of the context.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

It's all in your mind, what's left of it.

Nope, not desperate at all.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/jbravo688/space002.gif

Woof!

 

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[Beco]

Another solar company bites the dust after a government loan!

Spend our money wisely, invest in German companies....

 

[Bad_Doggie]

You even had to steal my image didn't you? haven't had an original thought of your own eh? Here's another on e for you, Bad Doggie stopping in to post:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/jbravo688/mganim1.gif

Oh I dunno it seemed rather apt; seeing as birthers and truthers are fellow travellers.

Woof!

 

[mercury14]

Go back to the link you posted.


That's where I got the quote.

I copied it exactly.

You said you copied the quote exactly. Now you say you made it up.

Why lie?

 

[mercury14]

A lot of gum flapping going on here.

If algae were worth a piss hole in the snow, the venture capitalists would be all over it.

Exxon Sinks $600M Into Algae-Based Biofuels in Major Strategy Shift

http://articles.marketwatch.com/200...1_alternative-energy-algae-northeast-biofuels

 

[RightField]

http://articles.marketwatch.com/200...1_alternative-energy-algae-northeast-biofuels

Here's a topic I generally agree with you on. Algae looks promising. Oil companies been investing in it for many years, some more than others. I hope they can soon make a breakthrough so that it becomes practical. Right now it's too expensive to compete with petroleum like mentioned in the article.

 

[mercury14]

Here's a topic I generally agree with you on. Algae looks promising. Oil companies been investing in it for many years, some more than others. I hope they can soon make a breakthrough so that it becomes practical. Right now it's too expensive to compete with petroleum like mentioned in the article.

Yeah pretty much. And unlike corn/grain/sugar ethanol, algae doesn't compete with the food supply. That's a huge advantage. And it's an area that the US is the clear leader in - no other nations are anywhere near us in this field. And it has the side effect of making the eco-people happy since algae consumes a ton of CO2 from the atmosphere.

The sad thing is until this week algae fuel research had broad bipartisan support. But now the GOP heard that Obama looks upon it favorably so they immediately tuned against it. I really fear that this political bullshit is going to harm the potential we have here.

 

[RightField]

Yeah pretty much. And unlike corn/grain/sugar ethanol, algae doesn't compete with the food supply. That's a huge advantage. And it's an area that the US is the clear leader in - no other nations are anywhere near us in this field. And it has the side effect of making the eco-people happy since algae consumes a ton of CO2 from the atmosphere.

The sad thing is until this week algae fuel research had broad bipartisan support. But now the GOP heard that Obama looks upon it favorably so they immediately tuned against it. I really fear that this political bullshit is going to harm the potential we have here.

I think if the politicians request some money to continue DARPA-like funding to investigate and encourage research alternatives in the pursuit of a cost-effective approach they'd get support. On the other hand, if they approach it like Solyndra and just throw a whole ton of money at a clearly uncompetitive and ineffective approach at a company or group of companies that are controlled by "inside" campaign donors, they'll have difficulty.

Since the house is now controlled by Republicans and that's where bills are formulated, it will probably be Republicans who put together the initial plan. It will be interesting to see if and how it is debated.

 

[mercury14]

I think if the politicians request some money to continue DARPA-like funding to investigate and encourage research alternatives in the pursuit of a cost-effective approach they'd get support. On the other hand, if they approach it like Solyndra and just throw a whole ton of money at a clearly uncompetitive and ineffective approach at a company or group of companies that are controlled by "inside" campaign donors, they'll have difficulty.

Since the house is now controlled by Republicans and that's where bills are formulated, it will probably be Republicans who put together the initial plan. It will be interesting to see if and how it is debated.

Why would they get support? Republicans (including every single GOP presidential candidate) want to abolish the entire Department of Energy. Now you're saying they want to keep it because they support the DoE's green energy initiatives?

Republicans are talking out of both sides of their mouths again.

 

[RightField]

Why would they get support? Republicans (including every single GOP presidential candidate) want to abolish the entire Department of Energy. Now you're saying they want to keep it because they support the DoE's green energy initiatives?

Republicans are talking out of both sides of their mouths again.

I think the Republicans only want to root out the fraud and abuse that's become plainly evident in the Democrat shenigans in the Department of Energy ....like 80% of the awards for billions of dollars in green energy programs going to companies with close ties to the democrats - like Solyndra and part owner George Kaiser - a democrat campaign bundler.

It's clear to anyone who thinks about it that DOE programs such as the ones that monitor the nuclear plants and nuclear waste are not programs that can be terminated. I don't think that anyone would argue that research into alternative fuels needs to take place (they have been ongoing for years under both Republican and Democrat administrations). Programs that support further research into scrubbing coal-burning emissions to make it cleaner are generally supported, though the far left environmentalists are pushing hard to close coal plants (they just celebrated the closing of the 100th coal-based generation system) putting our energy grid in jeopardy this summer in peak-energy periods.

Even if you got rid of the building and the management infrastructure called DOE, there's no question that these DOE programs mentioned above and others are needed and won't be terminated.

I think the real pressure is to get rid of the money-wasting efforts like Solyndra and it's siblings and get rid of any semblance of cronyism which has been a public relations nightmare for the many Democrats involved.