What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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[koalabear]

The fact is that in the six years with total Republican control, Bush vetoed nothing. Zilch, zero vetoes until six months after the Dems took control of congress. He signed every piece of government-expanding spending that was put in front of him by Republicans for six years. Every piece of pork - signed!

The history books say you are one dumb moron. But you know that.

 

[Luk]

The fact is that in the six years with total Republican control, Bush vetoed nothing. Zilch, zero vetoes until six months after the Dems took control of congress. He signed every piece of government-expanding spending that was put in front of him by Republicans for six years. Every piece of pork - signed!

The history books say you are one dumb moron. But you know that.

You should read your own link, dipshit. Bush didn't veto anything until 2006.

 

[mercury14]

How long have you lived in this fantasy world of grandiose delusions?

How many times are you going to be factually proved wrong and duck for cover so fast even Jenny-Poo would be proud. Honestly you were on better footing in your thread about $2.2 billion dollar Obama trips where he took 12% of the US Navy with him.

You've had a horrible day and have nothing left but personal attacks. Go to bed and when you wake up you can pretend like none of this ever happened.

 

[mercury14]

The history books say you are one dumb moron. But you know that.

Getting your ass kicked by your on link again, huh Koaladouche? Here's the first Bush veto according to your link:

George W. Bush
Main article: George W. Bush

1. July 19, 2006: Vetoed H.R. 810, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, a bill to ease restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Override attempt failed in House, 235-193 (286 needed).

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You guys flooded me with responses. This is going to be easy though.




Rightfield, that figure (the one in bold giant text that you chose to ignore), is not from the CBO. It's from Moody's.




I gave four sources: The CBO, Moody's IHS, and Macroeconomic advisors. You realize that if you choose to disbelieve one of them, you still have to face the fact that there are three more right? And that Moody's is the most recent - and gives a larger figure for jobs created/saved than the CBO?

So what else was included in your "response"?

- A bunch of shit about European debt that I don't care about.

- You ran off to the NRO and Thinker just as I predicted you would.

- You made a lame argument that we should lower taxes for our companies trying to bring foreign income to America, because it would create jobs. But then your own article mentions that Bush did this once and

"Though the tax break lured them into bringing $312 billion back to the United States, 92 percent of that money was returned to shareholders in the form of dividends and stock buybacks". Hmm no jobs.

Not only that but "this money comes from overseas operations and in some cases accounting maneuvers that shift domestic profits to low-tax countries. The study concluded that the program “did not increase domestic investment, employment or research and development.”

Oh and it gets better! "Indeed, 60 percent of the benefits went to just 15 of the largest United States multinational companies — many of which laid off domestic workers, closed plants and shifted even more of their profits and resources abroad in hopes of cashing in on the next repatriation holiday. Hmm, actual job losses when taxes were lowered.


So in summary let's review what we have here, shall we?

- I posted independent analysis that the stimulus created or saved around 3 million jobs. You said that one of my four sources is suspect and then pretended like my other three sources didn't exist.

- You posted an article that kicked your own ass.

- You pulled an "oh shit, there's a lot of nonpartisan analysis out there that says the stimulus worked!!! RUN BACK TO THE NRO - QUICK!!!"


Your asses are nailed to the post. Give up.

I was quite aware of that line in the article and it bothered me not one wit, because the point was, the money came home...

What do they do with dividends?

Burn them?

Make purchases?

Reinvest for more profit?

And what we said was that even if there were three million jobs created or saved, that it was not enough to replace lost jobs and actually grow the economy and the best uptick in unemployment the administration got was when they just said x jobs are never coming back and readjusted the numbers...

The proof is in where we are now, with a stubborn unemployment problem and Capital sitting on the sideline in the face of government uncertainty, for example Obama issues a moratorium on drilling while sending money and jobs to Brazil, he brags about new leases and then says, okay, drill baybee drill and winks at us as the EPA stops those efforts dead in the tacks, attacks coal, and limits natural gas production.

Now, how much did we spend for each of those "saved" or created jobs?

Take the amount of the stimulus and divide by three million, you best estimate.

Then tell us that you find that to be a good buy, an efficient use of funds because instinctively after observing the VA, the Post Office, Freddie, Fannie and Sallie, most of us understand efficiency is not the bulwark of government.

Now, please continue with your self-gratifying victory dances, it's kinda funny, reminds us of Joe Biden.

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The want of confidence in the public councils damps every useful undertaking, the success and profit of which may depend on a continuance of existing arrangements. What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not but that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed? What farmer or manufacturer will lay himself out for the encouragement given to any particular cultivation or establishment, when he can have no assurance that his preparatory labors and advances will not render him a victim to an inconstant government?
Madison, Federalist 62.

You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.

What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

With the Dow climbing near 10,000 again what's happened to all of the dire, end of the world ravings of our resident "conservative" economists?

Where is all of this inflation we were warned about? According to reports the Consumer Price Index is down 1.5% overall from last year. Despite Augusts increase in prices, gasoline is still down 30% from the high a year ago.

Despite the dire warnings of some of Lit's resident math wizards the Chinese are still very much interested in buying US Treasury securities.

I guess the sky isn't falling after all.

Go back two years, and no they are not, they are switching to Europe.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Getting your ass kicked by your on link again, huh Koaladouche? Here's the first Bush veto according to your link:

George W. Bush
Main article: George W. Bush

1. July 19, 2006: Vetoed H.R. 810, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, a bill to ease restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Override attempt failed in House, 235-193 (286 needed).

Embryonic stem cell research has yet to provide any cures, it is unstable and tends to cancers, the breakthroughs are coming through adult stem-cell research.

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Merc's lying on the floor, bloodied after yet another Fort Hood style attack and he raised his head two inches and immediately feels that rush, "I'm all but standing," but alas, he has no legs...




It's a metaphor. Don't get your panties in a wad, but look you gotta admit the mental health profession seems to be unwilling to diagnose insanity when it's iSlammic just as the Left's economists are when it's Socialist redistribution and fairness...

How much did we pay for each "saved" job?

Jesus saves at a much cheaper rate.

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The left is incapable of cogent thought or action. Will socialist Greece burn this week or next?

Can I choose both Bob?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

now, goes Merc wear panties under his "depends for men" or over them?


personally I think, every time Merc blames Bush for something he leaks a little

Merc's lying on the floor, bloodied after yet another Fort Hood style attack and he raised his head two inches and immediately feels that rush, "I'm all but standing," but alas, he has no legs...




It's a metaphor. Don't get your panties in a wad, but look you gotta admit the mental health profession seems to be unwilling to diagnose insanity when it's iSlammic just as the Left's economists are when it's Socialist redistribution and fairness...

How much did we pay for each "saved" job?

Jesus saves at a much cheaper rate.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

The left is incapable of cogent thought or action. Will socialist Greece burn this week or next?

how does someone like Merc get so lost? where does his anger for the 'right' & corporate america come from?

sure he has mommy issues, but what other ones?

Marc loves the bennies of capitalism but also condemns it as he wants more socialism.

what I really find funny, is all this talk about evil corporate america and how corporate america is out to screw the little guy, but now that the dust has settled down on Wall Street, how many executives went to jail? how many executives were charges brought up on? NONE AND ZERO

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Jen, is dat you?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Okay, it is you, I just saw the typing above the quote...

 

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[NeverEndingMe]

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/jbravo688/Emoticons/wank123391849_std.gif

It's more like this when he goes into blame Bush mode.

I didn't watch the news this morning, had a breakfast meeting. I did catch a blurb on the radio about some bad economic news coming out or maybe it came out.

 

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[Luk]

I rarely remember a thing you say. Think of the true meaning of the word stimulus and tell me it stimulated anything other than the government. Here's why it failed, from June of last year, four months after your Moody's article:

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/06/07/morning-bell-why-obamas-stimulus-failed/

I suppose you'll tell us next that the Obama economic team all quit and went home because their job in DC was done, right?

Merc posts facts from non-partisan, multiple independent sources and you come back with a blog? This is like your border patrol bullshit. Why is it so hard for you to say what Merc posted was true and just move on like a grown up?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Merc posts facts from non-partisan, multiple independent sources and you come back with a blog? This is like your border patrol bullshit. Why is it so hard for you to say what Merc posted was true and just move on like a grown up?

wow. best post of the day, NOT Merc never post true. Merc is a flaming socialist

 

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[busybody..]

Merc posts facts from non-partisan, multiple independent sources and you come back with a blog? This is like your border patrol bullshit. Why is it so hard for you to say what Merc posted was true and just move on like a grown up?

as if we didnt already know you are fucking insane

your let us know once again

 

[Luk]

I came back with the Heritage Foundation, their industry didn't receive a massive bailout of stimulus money, and weren't obligated to re-spin Obama's failure into Disney World. Dummy.

Kinda like how you spun the $2.2 billion trip and the fake border patrol site, tubbs? You really have a penchant for posting lies and bullshit.

Try blowing that smoke up your own ass, punk.

What is with you and things up people's butts?

You have quite a penchant for always having your mouth wide open, maybe somebody will stick a dick in it and shut you up.

What is with you and all the homoerotic posts?

 

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