What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[IrezumiKiss]

That almost 0.1% of the labor force! Awesome!

Compared to the jobs lost just in the first seven months of the Obama regime. (Reich?) (Reign of error?)

Feb 2009: -651,000
Mar 2009: -663,000
Apr 2009: -539,000
May 2009: -345,000
Jun 2009: -467,000
Jul 2009: -247,000
Aug 2009: -216,000

Yep, we've really turned the corner! Time for some more burdens for employers, they're ready for them now.

I wanna take a imaginary-laws-of-physics roller coaster ride with you someday. Just to see how a coaster train begins its downward run on a steep hill straight out of the gate and then magically stops at the very bottom without crashing or causing any harm to the passengers.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

I wanna take a imaginary-laws-of-physics roller coaster ride with you someday. Just to see how a coaster train begins its downward run on a steep hill straight out of the gate and then magically stops at the very bottom without crashing or causing any harm to the passengers.

What's funny about those numbers is that they're getting smaller every month. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

 

[pete]

the fact that they're getting smaller *is* a good thing, no matter what teh reasons for it.

i think a lot of people are concerned that job recovery isn't happening fast enough. maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

people are also concerned about whether this big health care bill will help or hurt the slow, fragile economic recovery process.

 

[firespin]

We know, the damage done to the economy before President Obama took office was extensive and took a long time to begin to reverse. You didn't bother to mention that it began before he was elected, let alone took office.. Typical. You did notice the gradual tapering of job losses though right? The only people who expected an instant recovery were the partisan morons who helped to drive the economy off a cliff in the first place.

Thanks for pointing it out though.

I wanna take a imaginary-laws-of-physics roller coaster ride with you someday. Just to see how a coaster train begins its downward run on a steep hill straight out of the gate and then magically stops at the very bottom without crashing or causing any harm to the passengers.

What's funny about those numbers is that they're getting smaller every month. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

Well...duh. So far, every recession and even the great depression has ended. It would be reasonable to assume this one would, too, almost regardless of what was done in Washington.

And, yes, duh, part of that is job losses taper off.

The point is that these job gains were presented as the biggest in years, which is accurate, but gives the misleading implication that they represented a material shift in lowering the ranks of the unemployed, when they represented just 4% of the job losses in the seven months I cited. (And, yes, I only included those in the Obama administration, since we both know what would happen if anything prior to that was mentioned. Even these are still "Bush's fault", right?)

 

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[Sonny Limatina]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

Well...duh. So far, every recession and even the great depression has ended. It would be reasonable to assume this one would, too, almost regardless of what was done in Washington.

And, yes, duh, part of that is job losses taper off.

The point is that these job gains were presented as the biggest in years, which is accurate, but gives the misleading implication that they represented a material shift in lowering the ranks of the unemployed, when they represented just 4% of the job losses in the seven months I cited. (And, yes, I only included those in the Obama administration, since we both know what would happen if anything prior to that was mentioned. Even these are still "Bush's fault", right?)

HAHAHAHA!!! Fire wouldn't know a point if you gave him three free hours and a pencil sharpener.

 

[firespin]

HAHAHAHA!!! Fire wouldn't know a point if you gave him three free hours and a pencil sharpener.

Perhaps we need a refresher course on your Speak No Evil assignment.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What's funny about those numbers is that they're getting smaller every month. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

Wait...in Bizarrobama World, smaller numbers am bad! Bigger numbers am good!

Also hope am bad, continuous daily stress am good! Confidence am bad, perpetual fear am good! Optimism over logical gradual climb upward am bad, pessimism over no quick fix am good!

http://www.seoinc.com/seo-blog/wp-admin/images/bizarrocode.jpg

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Wait...in Bizarrobama World, smaller numbers am bad! Bigger numbers am good!

Also hope am bad, continuous daily stress am good! Confidence am bad, perpetual fear am good! Optimism over logical gradual climb upward am bad, pessimism over no quick fix am good!

http://www.seoinc.com/seo-blog/wp-admin/images/bizarrocode.jpg

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=33770840&postcount=47

 

[unregistered]

 

[IrezumiKiss]

He's pretty well identified the one at the top of your head.

OWWWW!!! Vette hits back with the...uhh...mighty...uhhhh...bitch slap.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

OWWWW!!! Vette hits back with the...uhh...mighty...uhhhh...bitch slap.

You can say what you want about my mother, but mentioning my pointy head is crossing a line.

 

[garbage can]

Whoopie, time for cap and trade!

HAHAHAHA!!! Fire wouldn't know a point if you gave him three free hours and a pencil sharpener.

What's funny about those numbers is that they're getting smaller every month. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

We know, the damage done to the economy before President Obama took office was extensive and took a long time to begin to reverse. You didn't bother to mention that it began before he was elected, let alone took office.. Typical. You did notice the gradual tapering of job losses though right? The only people who expected an instant recovery were the partisan morons who helped to drive the economy off a cliff in the first place.

Thanks for pointing it out though.

Everything was fine in '05, the shit hit the fan after the '06 election.
Thankyou Barney, thankyou Chris.

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

Everything was fine in '05, the shit hit the fan after the '06 election.
Thankyou Barney, thankyou Chris.

Neglecting to mention of course that the "Shit hit the fan" a short two months after the new Democratic majority passed their very first budget. After finishing up business that the previous Congress left hanging in the wind as they left office.

Now were you the disingenuous sort you might try to blame them for something that had been warned about for quite some time (in fact for several months before it started, and was denied by the "right" for over a year after it began), or you can open your eyes and see that the economic downturn was a long time coming and due to the disastrously short sighted economic policies of the Grand Obstructionist Party.

 

[TurdFergeson]

The US economy is controlled by Foreign interests.

We (the US) pissed off our economic masters, so we were punished.

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for a reason.

The policies of the USA have (so far) averted WWIII.

 

[unregistered]

 

[The_Trouvere]

Closing The Book On The Bush Legacy

Just wondering...did you ever give George Bush credit for the long prosperous climb up to that point where we began the decline?

The Atlantic Sep 11 2009,

Thursday's annual Census Bureau report on income, poverty and access to health care-the Bureau's principal report card on the well-being of average Americans-closes the books on the economic record of George W. Bush. It's not a record many Republicans are likely to point to with pride.

On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush's two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country's condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton's two terms, often substantially.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/09/closing-the-book-on-the-bush-legacy/26402/

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Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

The Wall Street Journal * January 9, 2009, 12:04 PM ET

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

 

[Beco]

The Atlantic Sep 11 2009,

Thursday's annual Census Bureau report on income, poverty and access to health care-the Bureau's principal report card on the well-being of average Americans-closes the books on the economic record of George W. Bush. It's not a record many Republicans are likely to point to with pride.

On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush's two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country's condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton's two terms, often substantially.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2009/09/closing-the-book-on-the-bush-legacy/26402/

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Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

The Wall Street Journal * January 9, 2009, 12:04 PM ET

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

Bush gave us 80 months of prosperity.....lets see how obama does

 

[Sean Renaud]

Bush didn't give us 80 months of prosperity. Clinton deregulated the banks and allowed them to play crazy self feeding loops that just happened to detonate when a Democratic Congress showed up.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Bush gave us 80 months of prosperity.....lets see how obama does

Click on my links. Most Americans did not benefit from the Bush "prosperity."

 

[cebalrai]

That almost 0.1% of the labor force! Awesome!

Compared to the jobs lost just in the first seven months of the Obama regime. (Reich?) (Reign of error?)

Feb 2009: -651,000
Mar 2009: -663,000
Apr 2009: -539,000
May 2009: -345,000
Jun 2009: -467,000
Jul 2009: -247,000
Aug 2009: -216,000

Yep, we've really turned the corner! Time for some more burdens for employers, they're ready for them now.

Wait lemme get this straight. When Obama took office we were shedding 663,000 jobs per month - and now we're adding 140,000.

That's a 803,000-job swing right there. And you're going to... minimize it?

You'll never give Obama credit on anything, will you? But even if you dont, you'll have to admit that something is going right.

 

[firespin]

Wait lemme get this straight. When Obama took office we were shedding 663,000 jobs per month - and now we're adding 140,000.

That's a 803,000-job swing right there. And you're going to... minimize it?

You'll never give Obama credit on anything, will you? But even if you dont, you'll have to admit that something is going right.

Nice technique...the delayed action moronic post.

Like I frickin' said, the economy is going to come out of a recession anyway, and job growth will occur, eventually, no matter what the politicians do. It always has. I don't think the politicians can take any credit for it, but they can spend hundreds of billions in more or less futile activity.

And, the job growth this month is 4% of what was lost in those seven months of 2009, so maybe save the champagne for something that's not as significant as a rounding error.

Here's Bush's unemployment record by month for his first two years:

2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0


Here's the big O's:

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0
2010 9.7 9.7 9.7

Bush's worst month was that 7.7. Obama's best month is that 8.2. Maybe the stimulus is delaying job growth? How could you tell?

Here's 2004 thorugh 2007:

2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0

Any wonder why there are "miss me yet?" billboards now?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Nice technique...the delayed action moronic post.

Like I frickin' said, the economy is going to come out of a recession anyway, and job growth will occur, eventually, no matter what the politicians do. It always has. I don't think the politicians can take any credit for it, but they can spend hundreds of billions in more or less futile activity.

And, the job growth this month is 4% of what was lost in those seven months of 2009, so maybe save the champagne for something that's not as significant as a rounding error.

Ergo:

Life goes on anyway regardless of what humans do. Some days are mostly rainy, some days are mostly sunny.

Obama and Co. are just human beings, not supreme gods on Mount Olympus, not mutants with physical reality-changing superhuman abilities led by Professor Xavier and living in Westchester, New York.

Therefore, life goes on anyway regardless of what Obama and Co. do. When the days turn mostly sunny instead of mostly rainy, is it not because of their doing.

*insert gong sound effect here*

http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/lantau-tian-tan-buddha-statue-lantau-island-hk330.jpg

 

[cebalrai]

Nice technique...the delayed action moronic post.

Like I frickin' said, the economy is going to come out of a recession anyway, and job growth will occur, eventually, no matter what the politicians do. It always has. I don't think the politicians can take any credit for it, but they can spend hundreds of billions in more or less futile activity.

And, the job growth this month is 4% of what was lost in those seven months of 2009, so maybe save the champagne for something that's not as significant as a rounding error.

So yes you are going to minimize it.

I thought Obama was going to destroy the economy though. But it was probably one of the other righties that were insisting that.

I don't understand it though... Saying that the business cycle determines job growth/loss, and then holding Obama accountable for job losses just days after he took office.

The righties have their thinking set up so that Obama is at fault for the job losses during the recession AND when we come out of the recession and add jobs, he will get no credit.

He can only lose.