What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[Busybody]

Yawn...

you MOTHERFUCKING lying asshole

you didn't even read the shit

 

[RobDownSouth]

you MOTHERFUCKING lying asshole

you didn't even read the shit

It applies to employees who have spouses who are working elsewhere and have eligibility through their work.

No one is going without coverage, much to your dismay of course.

Go drink some more blood of Christian children...that always seems to make you feel better.

 

[Busybody]

who SAID they will be without coverage?


THAT

ISNT

THE POINT!


Look................A RACIST CLOWN

 

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[RobDownSouth]

who SAID they will be without coverage?
THAT ISNTTHE POINT!
Look................A RACIST CLOWN

J-w implied that.
....unless you and Drudge regard random changes in health insurance as "WAR DECLARED!" newsworthy....

 

[Busybody]

Go drink some more blood of Christian children...that always seems to make you feel better.

Obama is replenishing my supply

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Having coverage and getting health care is two different things.

Funny, for as long as I've had health insurance coverage (pretty much always), I have NEVER, EVER had any trouble getting health care.

Of course it's two different things, but to imply that those with coverage can't get health care is ludicrous.

Hell even without coverage those who need medical care can and will get it, even if they have to go to the ER with the sniffles , the cost of which gets passed along to insurance companies in the form of higher prices, and to you (and your employer) in the form of higher premiums.

 

[richard_daily]

Having coverage and getting health care is two different things.

Have you had trouble with your socialist VA health care? Or your socialist medicare?

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

Your medical care condition has not been influenced by the emerging adverse effects of Obamacare, which will prove to harm your ability to acquire timely, quality, health care in the future at reasonable cost.

An assertion backed up by nothing. Just fearmongering bullshit RW talking points.

 

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[Busybody]

Bullshit, look around and tell me there are no adverse effects of Obama care. For instance one tiny aspect of what is going to start happening all over the country:

UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ed:+bizj_atlanta+(Atlanta+Business+Chronicle)

 

[mercury14]

Bullshit, look around and tell me there are no adverse effects of Obama care. For instance one tiny aspect of what is going to start happening all over the country:

UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ed:+bizj_atlanta+(Atlanta+Business+Chronicle)

United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere.

Groundhog day.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Your medical care condition has not been influenced by the emerging adverse effects of Obamacare, which will prove to harm your ability to acquire timely, quality, health care in the future at reasonable cost.

An assertion backed up by nothing. Just fearmongering bullshit RW talking points.

 

[mercury14]

Newt Gingrich rightfully slams the Republican Party for its shameful performance on health care.

Gingrich: Republicans to Blame for Lack of Obamacare Alternatives
By Meghan Foley | More Articles
August 21, 2013

Former Speaker of the House and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich is disappointed in his fellow Republicans: while the GOP has put up a tough resistance against the healthcare reform championed by President Barack Obama — leading nearly 40 attempts to repeal or defund all or parts of the legislation known as Obamacare — the party has yet to develop a better alternative. Last Tuesday, speaking at the opening session of a four-day gathering of the Republican National Committee in Boston, he alleged that Republicans had failed to uphold the “replace” portion of the “repeal-and-replace” pledge the party made soon after the Affordable Care Act was first passed in March 2010.

Republicans have “zero answer” regarding a replacement for Obamacare, he said. “If we’re going to take on the fight with Obamacare, we have to be able to explain to people what we would do to make your life better,” he continued. And that’s the problem: the Republican party cannot answer that question.

The president levied a similar accusation at Republicans earlier this month: at a White House news briefing on August 9, he said that the one unifying principle in the Republican Party “is making sure that 30 million people don’t have health care.” The problem is not just that the Republican Party wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but that they have no counter proposal. “At least they used to say, well, we’re going to replace it with something better,” he continued. “There’s not even a pretense now that they’re going to replace it with something better.”

Recent surveys of public opinion show a similar concern. While the Democrats’ signature healthcare initiative remains persistently unpopular among the American people, Republicans have not been able to take advantage of the opportunity the widespread opposition to the law has given the party. A poll conducted by the Morning Consult found that voters trust Democrats more than Republicans on healthcare issues by a margin of 10 percent.

There is irony in Gingrich’s critique, and that irony explains why their is a hole in the Republican’s policy agenda. The healthcare plan laid out by Gingrich in his 2008 book, entitled “Real Change,” was very similar to Obamacare. He wrote that the government should “insist that everyone above a certain level buy coverage,” while providing “tax credits or [subsidizing] private insurance for the poor.” That suggestion is essentially an individual mandate, the core provision of the Affordable Care Act. After the much-publicized Republican criticism of the healthcare reform, it may seem surprising that Gingrich suggested a similar proposal, but many Republicans once supported that type of healthcare reform. In fact, the governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney, signed a similar plan into law.

Given that past, Republicans could have seen Obamacare as a victory — because Democrats adopted their proposal rather than pushing forward with a single-payer program — and then worked with the opposition to achieve a final reform that would be closer to what the party originally envisioned. But instead Republicans chose to fight the individual mandate, which as Gingrich argued is just the problem. “We are caught up right now in a culture — and you see it every single day — where as long as we are negative and as long as we are vicious and as long as we can tear down our opponent, we don’t have to learn anything,” he said.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/...r-lack-of-obamacare-alternatives.html/?ref=YF

 

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[mercury14]

Yeah like the sudden proliferation of part time positions as opposed to full time jobs. The rising costs of health care made worse by Obamacare.

The rising cost of health care?

The Kaiser Foundation came out this week with its annual review of health care costs, saying that they're rising at a 4% rate, far slower than the double-digit rate increases we saw when Republicans were in power.

http://kff.org/private-insurance/report/2013-employer-health-benefits/

 

[RobDownSouth]

Newt Gingrich rightfully slams the Republican Party for its shameful performance on health care.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/...r-lack-of-obamacare-alternatives.html/?ref=YF

You know the Republican party is in dire straits when Newt Gingrich starts making sense.

 

[koalabear]

You know the Republican party is in dire straits when Newt Gingrich starts making sense.

You know Fatty and StinkyMORON are in dire straits when they have to quote Newt Gingrich.

 

[Busybody]

Newt Gingrich rightfully slams the Republican Party for its shameful performance on health care.






http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/...r-lack-of-obamacare-alternatives.html/?ref=YF

now that Newt has a GIG in TEE VEE, he has to pander a bit

the REPOZ have plenty of decent alternatives

HE IS FULL OF BS

 

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[Busybody]

Another case of #RateShock - 60% of #smallbiz in Massachusetts to see premiums rise, up to 97 percent - http://onforb.es/169PN3h @Forbes

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Yeah like the sudden proliferation of part time positions as opposed to full time jobs. The rising costs of health care made worse by Obamacare.

Another piece of bullshit RW fearmongering.

Instead of focusing on a relatively small sample and claiming a "sudden proliferation" why not look at the overall trend? The ratio of part-time to full-time jobs has popped and dropped repeatedly over the last decade. It’s so volatile that there have been 20 six-month periods since 1968 with a similar part-time surge.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Analysis: Obamacare, tepid U.S. growth fuel part-time hiring

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/us-usa-economy-jobs-analysis-idUSBRE97K05K20130821

Nothing to do with health care.. move those goal posts!

 

[mercury14]

Analysis: Obamacare, tepid U.S. growth fuel part-time hiring

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/us-usa-economy-jobs-analysis-idUSBRE97K05K20130821

LOL @ Republicans who propose shutting down the government and defaulting on the debt and then turn around and accuse Democrats of creating uncertainty.