What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[hogjack]

The US debt is at $16.4 trillion.

The country borrowing billions a day.

 

[Busybody]

For the second time in two days I'm having to tell you that my source is your very own article.

show me

Im sure you are right

SHOW ME

 

[Busybody]

Housing starts up over 12%, far more than expected. Building permits up 1%.

Jobless claims from from 372k to 335k, down 47,000, far more than expected. I'm not seeing any reports of states slacking on their reporting either. Vette and Busybody will not be pleased at this excellent news.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000141857&__source=yahoo|headline|quote|video|&par=yahoo

Chart Of The Day: Housing Starts Adjusted vs Unadjusted


No commentary necessary.



And focusing only on the November to December "comparable" Seasonal adjustments, here is the move from November to December in 2010, 2011 and 2012. Spot the outlier:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/01/Dec%20SA%20vs%20NSA%20Starts_2_0.jpg

 

[Busybody]

Jobless claims from from 372k to 335k, down 47,000, far more than expected. I'm not seeing any reports of states slacking on their reporting either. Vette and Busybody will not be pleased at this excellent news.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000141857&__source=yahoo|headline|quote|video|&par=yahoo

Initial Claims Drop To 5-Year 'Old Normal' Lows On Seasonal Shenanigans


Initial jobless claims saw their biggest beat in almost 4 years to the lowest absolute (seasonally adjusted level) in almost 5 years. The market's initial reaction was a shrug (is good bad now that the Fed is pinned to jobs or is the market getting wise in the ways of seasonal-adjustment shenanigans?) but now it appears to be buying the new 'old' normal (+6 points). In the unadjusted data, things look very different - with a lag, New York (37,189), Georgia (15,354), and North Carolina (13,606) saw major rises in initial claims with only Michigan (-12,536) seeing a decent drop in claims - as we note that non-seasonally-adjusted claims rose notably less than in the prior 4 years, and assuming seasonal-adjustments are triggered from those, this will reflect very rosily on today's seasonal adjustment. With Claims back to 'normal', what will the Fed do?

Initial Claims SA - best since Feb 2008 (back to normal)!!

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/01/20130116_claimsNSA_0.jpg


Initial Claims NSA - lower seasonals suggest




As Deutsche's Joe Lavorgna notes: "We are hesitant to read too much into this because claims are very volatile on a week to week basis, and the seasonal factors tend to be large this time of year."

 

[Busybody]

Good to know

CURRY is HAPPY with 326K new unemployed!

back to PRE SANDY!

almost 4 million MORE unemployed in a year at this rate

BTW, that "number", which is 19999% BULLSHIT shows hire for TEMPS to wrap packages and tae returns from Christmas

 

[bra_man69]

show me

Im sure you are right

SHOW ME

Don't waste you're time with it
It's a idiot.
seen that it doesn't know simple math

 

[bra_man69]

Good to know

CURRY is HAPPY with 326K new unemployed!

back to PRE SANDY!

almost 4 million MORE unemployed in a year at this rate

BTW, that "number", which is 19999% BULLSHIT shows hire for TEMPS to wrap packages and tae returns from Christmas

Look at the u6 such a great number

You see where the epa had to back track over gas drilling

 

[Busybody]

For the second time in two days I'm having to tell you that my source is your very own article.

so what YOU are saying

is that its NOW OK for the Government to decide WHICH HOSPITAL gets finding based on the NUMBER of PROCEDURES?


sorta like a DEATH PANEL!

which you say

DOESNT EXIST!

 

[phrodeau]

so what YOU are saying

is that its NOW OK for the Government to decide WHICH HOSPITAL gets finding based on the NUMBER of PROCEDURES?


sorta like a DEATH PANEL!

which you say

DOESNT EXIST!

A horse is sort of like a unicorn, DUMMY!

 

[Busybody]

a UNICORN has only 1 horn

cause the OTHER was TAXED by Obama and taken away

 

[mercury14]

so what YOU are saying

is that its NOW OK for the Government to decide WHICH HOSPITAL gets finding based on the NUMBER of PROCEDURES?


sorta like a DEATH PANEL!

which you say

DOESNT EXIST!

Obamacare doesn't set private insurance reimbursement rates for obstetrics. Or private insurance reimbursement rates for anything. You're believing misinformation again.

 

[mercury14]

Don't waste you're time with it
It's a idiot.
seen that it doesn't know simple math

So to summarize this dumbshittery:


BB: Here's an article that says a tiny hospital that only does 200 deliveries per year isn't able to afford it's low-volume unit.

Merc: That's because it only has 200 deliveries per year.

BB: Prove that it only has 200 deliveries per year.

Merc: You just posted an article that says that. Here's the quote in case you didn't read your own article.

BB: But can you give me a quote?

Merc: I just did.

Bra_Man: "OMG MERCURY IS DOIN' BAD MATH!"

 

[RobDownSouth]

So to summarize this dumbshittery:


BB: Here's an article that says a tiny hospital that only does 200 deliveries per year isn't able to afford it's low-volume unit. And its doctors don't want to work there anymore because there's not much for them to do.

Merc: That's because it only has 200 deliveries per year.

BB: Prove that it only has 200 deliveries per year.

Merc: You just posted an article that says that. Here's the quote in case you didn't read your own article.

BB: But can you give me a quote?

Merc: I just did.

Bra_Man: "OMG MERCURY IS DOIN' BAD MATH!"

Still moar math:
The hospital had 4 Obstetricians with a combined caseload of 200 births per year.

By my admittedly non-PatriotMath figuring, that's one delivery per OB per week.

An OB doctor averaging one delivery per week is not going to make much money.

A hospital with a newborn nursery census of four cannot justify an entire wing devoted to labor and delivery.

Both the doctors and the hospitals saw the writing on the wall, especially with an aging population.

But the retard right (Vetty, Busybody, and Braman) want to blame Obamacare.

Retards.

 

[Busybody]

Obamacare doesn't set private insurance reimbursement rates for obstetrics. Or private insurance reimbursement rates for anything. You're believing misinformation again.

you should tell it to the hospital

they MUST not know

 

[mercury14]

Still moar math:
The hospital had 4 Obstetricians with a combined caseload of 200 births per year.

By my admittedly non-PatriotMath figuring, that's one delivery per OB per week.

An OB doctor averaging one delivery per week is not going to make much money.

A hospital with a newborn nursery census of four cannot justify an entire wing devoted to labor and delivery.

Both the doctors and the hospitals saw the writing on the wall, especially with an aging population.

But the retard right (Vetty, Busybody, and Braman) want to blame Obamacare.

Retards.

But... But... But AJ's wife is a hospital administrator who has taught him the ways of the medical system. If what you're saying is true I'm sure AJ would have caught it and not said what he did.

 

[mercury14]

you should tell it to the hospital

they MUST not know

I just scanned the entire ACA for the word "reimbursement". None of the hits come up in any way related to private insurers. Please feel free to verify this on your own.

 

[Busybody]

Curry cant read

I just scanned the entire ACA for the word "reimbursement". None of the hits come up in any way related to private insurers. Please feel free to verify this on your own.

Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries





WINDBER, Pa. (AP) — A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31 because its obstetricians are either leaving or refocusing their practices, and because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.

The Windber Medical Center, about 60 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, is losing two obstetricians and two others are shifting their focus more to gynecology.

Hospital officials say the population of women of child-bearing age is dropping and that the number of births the hospital would be called upon to perform isn't enough for it to provide the service in the face of lower reimbursements under the federal Affordable Care Act.

The hospital delivered about 200 babies each year since restarting its obstetrics program in 2005.

Officials aren't sure how many jobs will be lost.


Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/2060306...#ixzz2IAaZOBHb



clearly

Now the gubmint determines the NUMBER of peeps that will be HELPED or KILLED

 

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[Busybody]

He's been told about these diminished reimbursements since day one.

yes

WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH

 

[Busybody]

Stooge Curry and NIGGER POOP gonna be teachin the course





Pro-Obamacare Group Sponsoring Symposium To Train Journalists How To Report On Obamacare…




Yes, lib media bias is still just a myth.

Via Daily Caller:


A private organization that “helped lay the groundwork” for Obamacare is hosting a symposium to “offer specialized education in health care reporting” for mainstream reporters from outlets including Reuters and Money magazine.

As reported by Rusty Weiss for FreedomWorks, the Commonwealth Fund is sponsoring a two-day symposium, hosted by the Society of American Business Editors and Writers (SABEW) entitled “The Business of Health Care” at Reuters headquarters in New York City. The symposium will “offer specialized education in health care reporting” and “boost knowledge of the Affordable Care Act.”

“The goal over two days will be to introduce fellows to experts in the field and explore ways to improve coverage of the issue,” according to an announcement on the SABEW website. Former Obama administration official Sherry Glied will address the reporters as a speaker at the event.

 

[mercury14]

He's been told about these diminished reimbursements since day one.

Nobody has told me about diminished reimbursements for OB care. Unless I'm missing it, it doesn't appear to be in the law. None of you have ever linked the law where the ACA sets reimbursement rates for private companies. That would be a massive regulation that we'd hear nonstop RW whining about.

Got a link from the law to back your claim up?

 

[mercury14]

Here's the press release directly from the Wimber Medical Center. As you can see, it does not reference the ACA or any change in reimbursement because of the ACA. You, AJ, and Vette all fell for another right wing hoax. Plain and simple, Obamacare does not set reimbursement rates for private insurers.

OB Special Announcement

Posted: 1/15/2013

Faced with a change of practice direction by two Obstetricians and the planned relocation of the remaining obstetricians in 2013, the Board of Directors was compelled to complete a full assessment of the potential impact and determine the best course of action. After careful consideration, they concluded it will close the hospital's obstetric (OB) program by the end of March of this year.

Chairman of the Board, the Honorable David C. Klementik, expressed the feelings of the board by stating, "It is with heavy hearts that we inform the community that Windber Medical Center will be discontinuing its obstetric services." He remarked that it was a difficult decision, but coupled with the recent and potential future changes in WMC OB providers, industry trends and market analysis, the board concluded that the timeliness and cost of recruiting a new team of obstetricians may not be feasible and therefore, may not serve in the hospital's or community's best interest.

Barbara Cliff, President/CEO, stated that it is with sadness that we have to end such a wonderful and long standing service that has provided quality care to generations within the community. However, with the retention of long-standing and beloved physicians, Dr. Amy Anderson, Dr. Pradeep Kulkarni and Lisa Drennen, CRNP, continuing to provide gynecological services, the vision is to create a comprehensive women's health care program to serve the community with specialized women's services and outstanding care.

We understand this change will be difficult for some of our dedicated employees and are working closely with the Human Resources Department to provide assistance as able throughout the transition and beyond to place them in other areas where there are opportunities due to openings and / or growth within the facility.

During the transition period, WMC will work closely with its expectant mothers and is currently in preliminary discussions with local providers to accommodate future births. Extensive and personalized communications will be shared with all current patients, and a WMC liaison will be available to answer any questions or concerns.

Like most hospitals in today's challenging healthcare environment, the Board of Directors and executive leadership at Windber Medical Center continue to carefully evaluate the current state against reimbursement and industry trends. Expansion plans for WMC's Emergency Department still continue to move forward. The newly renovated medical office building is near completion which will house those services currently in space that will be demolished for the future ED. The OB department will be used to accommodate the needs of our growing surgical services. WMC continues to be profitable and will continue in its mission to provide excellence in personalized, quality healthcare services.

Source: Windber Medical Center

http://www.windbercare.org/newsitem.asp?newid=108

 

[count2three]

Please conserve this Thread for a good lough in the Future. That will be so ironic when the economy gets tanked again.

 

[mercury14]

Please conserve this Thread for a good lough in the Future. That will be so ironic when the economy gets tanked again.

Yeah I'll bookmark it because any day now it's going to be abandoned.