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U.S. contest seeks to be "American Idol' of books

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A major U.S. book publisher is hoping its new Web-based writing contest can tap into the popularity of interactive competitions like hit television show "American Idol."

As part of the "First Chapters" contest, aspiring first-time authors and members of www.gather.com can post manuscripts on that social-networking Web site, organizers from publisher Touchstone Fireside and gather.com said on Thursday.

Touchstone Fireside is an imprint of Simon & Schuster Inc., a division of Viacom.

If online readers like the manuscript's first chapter, the author is voted through to the next round. Two more chapters are posted and the public narrows the field in the same fashion.

After three rounds of judging, a winning manuscript will be picked from among five finalists in May. The winner will be chosen by representatives from Simon & Schuster, Borders bookstores and gather.com, Touchstone Fireside Vice President Mark Gompertz said.

The winner will receive $5,000, a book contract with Touchstone Fireside and distribution by Borders.

In an industry struggling to sell fiction books, this is the latest effort to find a top-selling author. It follows other competitions including The Sobol Award, a literary competition launched in September that folded this week.

"We keep laughing about it, but this is the 'American Idol' of book publishing," Gompertz said. "We hope that we will find a talented writer who might not in the traditional way get themselves noticed."

Would-be authors without an agent have traditionally submitted manuscripts to a publishing house hoping to be picked out of a "slush pile," Gompertz said.

"This is an experiment on a sort of needle-in-the-haystack approach," said Gompertz, noting the voting public could outdo publishers who have picked "a lot of great stuff and a lot of dreck."
 
Zeb_Carter said:
But do they take smut? :devil:
The guidelines only state "commercial fiction genre". The FAQ's further narrow it down as "fiction with broad commercial appeal" so probably not. :rolleyes:

As to what would Charley think? She'd bitch because it's only open to US residents. ;)
 
Hmmm... This is interesting. Simon & Schuster, Inc (S & S Adult) does not accept manuscripts or submissions from unagented writers at all.

It's also interesting to note this company publishes 650 titles per year under:

Atria Books, Washington Square Press, Wall Street Journal Press, Kaplan Publishing, Downtown Press, MTV Books, VH-1 Books, Paraview Pocket, Pocket Star, Star Trek, Scribner's, S & S Trade Paperbacks (Fireside, Libros & Touchstone). :eek:

This is kind of a kewl back door.
 
minsue said:
The guidelines only state "commercial fiction genre". The FAQ's further narrow it down as "fiction with broad commercial appeal" so probably not. :rolleyes:

As to what would Charley think? She'd bitch because it's only open to US residents. ;)
ROFLOL :catroar:
 
What Charley thinks:

First, I think that book publishers are behind the times and their publicists should have gotten on the band wagon a long, LONG time ago and should be doing something newer than this current ruse.

However, $5000 and a contract (be aware of rights before signing) isn't shabby. My questions would be contract related. Is $5,000 and a nod all I'd get when S&S might possibly make millions from the - well - and the also well of being associated with Viacom? I would ask myself other questions ... I think you get the movie picture.

I think it is a good opportunity to compete in a market that Lit cannot offer. :)
 
CharleyH said:
First, I think that book publishers are behind the times and their publicists should have gotten on the band wagon a long, LONG time ago and should be doing something newer than this current ruse.

However, $5000 and a contract (be aware of rights before signing) isn't shabby. My questions would be contract related. Is $5,000 and a nod all I'd get when S&S might possibly make millions from the - well - and the also well of being associated with Viacom? I would ask myself other questions ... I think you get the movie picture.

I think it is a good opportunity to compete in a market that Lit cannot offer. :)
True, Charley ;)

In addition to the $5000 prize, there should be an advance plus guaranteed commissions, with options for screen rights and reprints.

Also, you should note that the novel should be substantially finished before you enter since you have no control over when they will ask for chapters. In the end they will want the entire, polished manuscript.

If I read the website correctly, they keep the copyright on the book. After the book drops from circulation, the copyrights should revert to the author.
 
CharleyH said:
I think you get the movie picture.
That is a good point. 5000 seems a ridiculous amount for the companies involved.

Alfred Hitchcock bought the rights of Psycho the novel, anonymously, for twice that amount, in 1959.
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
True, Charley ;)

In addition to the $5000 prize, there should be an advance plus guaranteed commissions, with options for screen rights and reprints.

Also, you should note that the novel should be substantially finished before you enter since you have no control over when they will ask for chapters. In the end they will want the entire, polished manuscript.

If I read the website correctly, they keep the copyright on the book. After the book drops from circulation, the copyrights should revert to the author.

I am not sure a contest should give advances, but commissions and options I would enjoy in a contract with S&S (Viacom).

I agree, JJ, the novel should be substantially finished and you make some terrific points. I reiterate that I think it a fabulous opportunity (nod to Min: for those who can enter) to see how one fares beyond Lit.

Go for it, Absy! :kiss:
 
This is another contest that might be fun....

http://www.writersweekly.com/misc/contest.php

This is the Writer's Digest 24 Hour Contest.

You sign up by April 21st. On the day the contest begins they email you the theme of the story and you have 24 hours to write, edit and submit it. The stories are limited to 3000 words, I think :p


Note: It costs $5.00
 
Dar~ said:
Charley thinks I'm hot.

Yet ask yourself, who does Charley think is 'not' hot? :D

Answer the original question- thread jacker! ;)
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
This is another contest that might be fun....

http://www.writersweekly.com/misc/contest.php

This is the Writer's Digest 24 Hour Contest.

You sign up by April 21st. On the day the contest begins they email you the theme of the story and you have 24 hours to write, edit and submit it. The stories are limited to 3000 words, I think :p


Note: It costs $5.00
I have FOREVER tried to get people to go to:

http://www.erotica-readers.com/

They never do and there are many contests and publishing ops there.
 
Charly,
I did a search at Writer's Market for contests for fiction. I got 797 returns :eek:

However, scanning them, I found about 20% were for "novels published during the previous year". About 5% were for children's books. And about 30% of the rest were availble to writers in Canada, the UK and Australia only.

That still leaves like 500 national contests open for everyone ;)
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
Charly,
I did a search at Writer's Market for contests for fiction. I got 797 returns :eek:

However, scanning them, I found about 20% were for "novels published during the previous year". About 5% were for children's books. And about 30% of the rest were availble to writers in Canada, the UK and Australia only.

That still leaves like 500 national contests open for everyone ;)

LOL. And so, how many of them are for erotic writers? :D :kiss:
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
Any of them, Charley. However, the active word is EROTIC. Stroke won't fly.

Why not? What are people so afraid of?
 
CharleyH said:
Why not? What are people so afraid of?
I'm not sure. Maybe it isn't the people. It's most likely the editors and Publishers who are afraid of offending anyone.
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
The difference is deep, suggestive, sexual overtones versus overt cock and pussy stories.
LOL.

Do you really think that, JJ? What of fetish?
 
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