Goodalphamale
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I heard about it rarely here, but I believe some of the loving wives stories are made on this concept
What do you guys think about the Martian Slut Ray?
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lovecraft68
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I see a lot more evidence of the CMI and incels rays in that category.
Lifestyle66
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Yes, the MSR is often used in BTB stories in particular. The faithful and perfect husband adores his monogamous Loving Wife of ## years, when suddenly, he finds that she turns into a slut. He learns that she "couldn't resist" that other guy's advances and now she wants more. That often begins with "Honey, we need to talk."
The MSR is just a named tool for the author's use of a one-dimensional character, the wife who is a prop in the story.
Other authors often do the same in stories with the aggrieved wife having a derelict husband, not bothering to write any reason for the husband's bad behavior. You're expected to understand that he's not the center of the story, her reaction is. But this is erotica, and the MSR provides the majority of that erotica in those stories.
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lovecraft68
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That and its obviously perfect for a Mind Control story.
33RPMVinylPants
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There's a whole series someone wrote like that.
It's a raygun that you can use to give your target whatever fetish you want
Goodalphamale
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I always saw it like a tool for authors to Create unrealistic (which became the new reality for porn addicts) stories to make a quick LW story. It's a decent concept with science and fiction backing it.
gunhilltrain
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CMI can stand for a number of things. Chronic Masturbatory Illness? And what does an incel ray do?
lovecraft68
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CMI in this case is Cold Male Insecurity it turns 'men' into such squealing simps that a fictional story about cheating sends them out of their mind
An incel ray convinces single losers that its women's faut-not theirs-that no one wants their sorry ass.
This reminds me, its been awhile since I put something in LW to set off the crowd affected by said rays. I have three to choose from, just trying to decide which hits them harder.
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The Martian Slut Ray as a plot device... eh, it's a trope. Like most tropes, it can be used well, or it can be used poorly. Most genre fiction (which is what almost all LW stories count as, and arguably what almost all stories on this site count as) is allowed one or two big breaks with reality before it comes tumbling down.
In a huge chunk stories on this site, there's already something similar that we just kind of ignore: the fact that most of the guys in the stories should not be getting laid, or at least not with the women they're ending up with in the stories. Why is the virginal high school senior fascinated by her balding, divorced older neighbor? Shh, just roll with it. There might be a named trope for this, but hell if I know what it is. Shows up everywhere here, though.
bruce1971 did a great essay on the MSR as a trope and possible reasons it evolved/continues to be used in LW. I don't agree with him 100% on it, but I do find it well-argued and largely compelling, for the most part. To sum it up: the story needs a villain. Much like the action movies of the 1980s, adding additional backstory and motivation beyond the bare sketch ("they're communists/terrorists/drug dealers!") doesn't add anything to the story and can, in fact, take away from it. Think about the attempts in the 90s to say "hey, maybe our heroes aren't to everyone" while still stapling action movie setpieces onto them that just made for dull, muddled messes of movies.
You can have rousing, dumb action movies, and you can have thoughful stories about American hegemony and its global sociopolitical effects, but you can't usually mix them together without making one bad movie instead of two good ones. Same thing with a BTB story or, for that matter, a reconciliation story. Having an MSR strike and creating a real villain out of nowhere, but then having the husband just shrug his shoulders and stick with the marriage... yeah. It just muddles the mixture in a different way.
As to MSR as a real-life thing? Eh. I'm sure there are women (and men) who have absolutely lost their minds and done some of the dumber stuff you see in LW, but trying to say it's some sort of statistically likely/scientifically predicted event just seems like a bunch of sigma male/red pill/manosphere copium by guys who can't see that, yes, your ex did dump you/you can't get a date for a reason beyond the shallow, superficial shit.
In a huge chunk stories on this site, there's already something similar that we just kind of ignore: the fact that most of the guys in the stories should not be getting laid, or at least not with the women they're ending up with in the stories. Why is the virginal high school senior fascinated by her balding, divorced older neighbor? Shh, just roll with it. There might be a named trope for this, but hell if I know what it is. Shows up everywhere here, though.
bruce1971 did a great essay on the MSR as a trope and possible reasons it evolved/continues to be used in LW. I don't agree with him 100% on it, but I do find it well-argued and largely compelling, for the most part. To sum it up: the story needs a villain. Much like the action movies of the 1980s, adding additional backstory and motivation beyond the bare sketch ("they're communists/terrorists/drug dealers!") doesn't add anything to the story and can, in fact, take away from it. Think about the attempts in the 90s to say "hey, maybe our heroes aren't to everyone" while still stapling action movie setpieces onto them that just made for dull, muddled messes of movies.
You can have rousing, dumb action movies, and you can have thoughful stories about American hegemony and its global sociopolitical effects, but you can't usually mix them together without making one bad movie instead of two good ones. Same thing with a BTB story or, for that matter, a reconciliation story. Having an MSR strike and creating a real villain out of nowhere, but then having the husband just shrug his shoulders and stick with the marriage... yeah. It just muddles the mixture in a different way.
As to MSR as a real-life thing? Eh. I'm sure there are women (and men) who have absolutely lost their minds and done some of the dumber stuff you see in LW, but trying to say it's some sort of statistically likely/scientifically predicted event just seems like a bunch of sigma male/red pill/manosphere copium by guys who can't see that, yes, your ex did dump you/you can't get a date for a reason beyond the shallow, superficial shit.
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Finally, a chance for an STI to be the hero!
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I can’t pretend I haven’t hit the big red Martian Slut Ray button now and then—because let’s be honest, sometimes the grind of writing a slow-burn descent into infidelity feels like hauling narrative bricks uphill in the rain. When you’re staring down the barrel of another 3,000 words just to justify why Karen’s suddenly eyeing the pool boy like he’s a human popsicle, it’s tempting to just zap her with the ol’ MSR and call it character development. Sure, it’s the narrative equivalent of tossing a grenade into a marriage and yelling “Plot twist!” but hey, sometimes it works. Readers will let you know if you’ve tanked it faster than a Reddit comment thread on moral decay—but if you don’t screw the landing, then perhaps, you’ve earned that little pat on the back.
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Regarding the "incel ray:" on this site, few people would read a story about a man (or woman) who wants sex and isn't able to get it. Well, they could pay for it; somebody must have written a story like that. In fact, I remember doing it. The divorced main character can only afford a street walker, which he can't handle. In the end, she car-jacks his vehicle in order to pay off some debts she has. I don't know if such a thing has ever happened, but I've heard about prostitutes who rob their clients.
lovecraft68
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No, the incels I refer to are the readers. 99% of the that audience is male and I use that term loosely.
Apparently the Martian Slut Ray was active in Salt Lake City Utah in 1993 and affected my story 'Forbidden Fun With the Mormons', in which a young Black guy helps his pretty Mormon classmate cheat on her boring boyfriend, then helps the girl's equally hot mother cheat on her boring husband. I had no idea until one reader very kindly pointed it out to me.
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I think I understood that the Martian ray was actually metaphorical in most stories, a state of mind in the story's participants. Of course, someone out there has written about a "real" ray gun, I suspect.
WCSGarland
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What about the Venusian Gigolo Ray? I'm thinking that's got to be as much of a thing as the Martian Slut Ray
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This, too, has been done, mostly as a joke/commentary.
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Goodalphamale
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So you are saying that MSR is not just a literotica exclusive term and it was actually a big thing in 90s Utah?
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Goodalphamale
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Just finished your story and boy that was a fun ride. If felt like slow burn and fast paced at the same time, I enjoyed the story.
Expecting a sequel...
No, I was joking around with my post and being sarcastic. The story in question - Forbidden Fun With the Mormons - got a 'Martian Slut Ray' comment from an angry reader, the first time I had seen such a comment on one of my stories. I'm glad you enjoyed reading it.
As I mentioned on another reply, I was joking around and being sarcastic with my comment, as the story in question - Forbidden Fun With the Mormons - got a 'Martian Slut Ray' comment when it was posted.
I actually do have a story where aliens do coerce humans into having sex - Cindy's Close Encounter - where three cheerleaders and their jock boyfriends are abducted by a UFO after their high school Halloween dance in 1959. The aliens who want to study human reproduction don't use a ray however; they administer a serum that acts as an aphrodisiac. And the aliens aren't Martians, they live within the Jupiter moon Europa.
If you like sci-fi erotica, the 1950s and would like to see three very good looking young couples - one set with blonde hair, the second set with brown hair and the other set with red hair - having sex then Cindy's Close Encounter would be for you.
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In reality, happily married women in long-term marriages where they have quality sex several times a week and a happy home life simply don't cheat no matter how handsome the man is. It's a darn near impossibility (I'll never say 100% as you never know). That's why such stories are almost horror stories in that the happily married husband has no clue until he's presented with an ultimatum by his wife to let her start having sex with other men or divorce. It's almost like the wife went out in the morning and was bitten by a sex zombie, and when she returned at night, the wife is dead and all that is left is the new zombie wife who instead of wanting to eat brains, wants sex (and lots of it) with other men.
That's why these stories are so popular as it brings a chill to the man's heart thinking that he could leave in the morning a happy man and return in the evening to an absolute hell, and there's nothing he can do about it because of that darn legal system that will give everything to the new zombie wife.
That's why these stories are so popular as it brings a chill to the man's heart thinking that he could leave in the morning a happy man and return in the evening to an absolute hell, and there's nothing he can do about it because of that darn legal system that will give everything to the new zombie wife.
