What do "Progressives" want?

[IrezumiKiss]

No. I support my elven brethren.

Autocorrect really wants to make that "eleven" but that's not what I mean.

Not a Stranger Things fan, I see.

 

[CandiCame]

Not a Stranger Things fan, I see.

It's on my list. I just haven't gotten to it.

 

[nowisthetime]

Why are there so many of these bitchy threads by right wing males? You all are extremely hateful, people want to live in peace without being bothered by you entitled, cocky fools.

Look to your leader, regarding why so many people feel to be on the defensive mode.

Are you all capable of fucking thinking deep?

 

[Rokk0n]

No. I support my elven brethren.

Autocorrect really wants to make that "eleven" but that's not what I mean.

What is it with twits?

 

[BotanyBoy]

They cut taxes disproportionately. And at the same time, they barely make a dent in the budget.

Yep....should have done better.

Nobody can spend tax dollars as fast and as furiously as the GOP.

Except the DNC.

So your farm winds up paying for the tax relief of far bigger corporations.

Which I totally disagree with and why I don't send my money or votes to either party.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Except the DNC.

Or Trump, where defense is concerned.

Which I totally disagree with and why I don't send my money or votes to either party.

Do you vote LP? Not in hope of electing any candidate, but just to send the PTB a message that we're not all cool with them?

 

[Kirkrapine]

No. I support my elven brethren.

Funny how "The Year Without a Santa Claus" never mentions the labor strike.

 

[CandiCame]

Funny how "The Year Without a Santa Claus" never mentions the labor strike.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/aebdb0f2bae7eb66c4ecf322cd946b39/tumblr_p1fzhwDjUU1uk5x82o3_1280.png

 

[BotanyBoy]

They don't really need us any more; Russia's not about to invade them.

Certainly not as long as we're pulling guard.

But their biggest threat is from within.

Things have been going ugly in Europe recently, but that has not happened and does not appear likely to, not even in Greece. The real danger there is not leftists, but fascists like the Golden Dawn.

Not that ugly, and that's because Greece had it's neighbors pick it up off the floor.

We'll revisit this when the masses are hungry as they are in Venezuela.

And again, if you have to choose between them you should choose democracy.

Why is democracy inherently better than liberty?

Any form of "freedom" that allows the economic inequality we have here is worthless,

Bullshit.

It's built the greatest economic, scientific and military super power in all of recorded human history.

not least because it allows the rich to use their money to wield political power far out of proportion to their numbers.

They can't....their vote doesn't count anymore than yours or mine.

The social democracies, however, remain free countries by any reasonable standard, with a high level of respect for human rights, better than our own in some cases.

For the moment. If you consider history to be any sort of indicator of human behavior though, it's just a matter of time before one goes off the rails.

Maybe 5 years, maybe 50. But it will happen again and atrocities will be done democratically against a minority again because morons refuse to understand that democracy =/= virtue and democracy =/= freedom.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Or Trump, where defense is concerned.

Trump doesn't spend on defense.

Do you vote LP? Not in hope of electing any candidate, but just to send the PTB a message that we're not all cool with them?

No.

What's the fucking point?

Waste of fuel/time. The USA is fucked and trashed.....a soulless husk of a degenerate society on the decline.

 

[Oblimo]

Except the DNC.

Nope. The greatest deficit increases have always occurred during GOP Presidential administrations. We can’t compare truly Obama’s to Trumps’ yet, since Trump is only two years in, but it ain’t looking good for Cheeto Jesus.

Which I totally disagree with and why I don't send my money or votes to either party.

That is a perfectly reasonable statement. I would argue that the DNC (Federal level, I can imagine you have some choice words for the Moonbeam administration) is less worse for your farm in the long term, but I don’t think we’d get anywhere.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nope. The greatest deficit increases

Deficit isn't really spending.

They just cut taxes without cutting the corresponding spending.

Nor do they ever audit/dig after/police up or otherwise clean house of any of the absurd spending they regularly point out when (D)'s are in power once they have the chance to do something about it.

Which is fuckin' stupid and why I can't stand the GOP as a party.

That is a perfectly reasonable statement. I would argue that the DNC (Federal level, I can imagine you have some choice words for the Moonbeam administration) is less worse for your farm in the long term, but I don’t think we’d get anywhere.

Oh man I do for moonbeam.....I'm out bitch.

As a small independent farmer both major parties represent oppression.

(R)'s being the more oligarchical shits that they are keep the regulatory agencies under control of the big dogs. Who then weaponize them against small/independent farmers who don't have a multi million dollar budget for an army of full time lawyers.

(D)'s are more basic enemies in that they are anti small bidnizz in general. They just LOVE regulating and taxing us out of existence.