What do female writers think about males writing from a female POV?

[stickygirl]

You're correct that context is king with most language. Few people had even heard of the term cis outside of the relevant academic papers and while we can't now deny the word exists, I wouldn't expect anyone to use the word unless it was needed to make a distinction. Same with CRT, which from what I understand is another academic term jumped on and now brandished by certain political groups with no regard for its true meaning or intent. Alpha males - more bullshittery.

When I first moved to my present town I heard grown men call each other 'love' which raised my eyebrows until I came to realise it was a local expression and much the same as 'mate' in Oz. I think 'hon' sounds cute, but it could sound patronising given a particular context.

When we talk about women it's a general term. It doesn't mean menstruating women, or pregnant women, or even trans women. If doesn't have to be for general contexts. What is ridiculous is when people claim that a word has been stolen because they hear someone using a more specific term for clarification. How can you steal a word anyway? Do you mean all lobsters or right handed lobsters in particular? If I refer to right handed lobsters does anyone claim I'm dissing left-handed ones ( well probably )?

If someone comes to reception with a question that my colleague can answer, do I say
"This female wonders if her Fedex has arrived"
"This lady wonders if her Fedex has arrived"
"This woman wonders if her Fedex has arrived"
"This cis het female caucasian from an upper income bracket in red Louboutins wonders if her Fedex has arrived"
"That old bitch from accounts is here again. Can you deal with it, hon?"
Your choice of course but you'll be judged by your peers accordingly. It's how you fit in and make friends.

 

[AlinaX]

When I first moved to my present town I heard grown men call each other 'love' which raised my eyebrows until I came to realise it was a local expression and much the same as 'mate' in Oz. I think 'hon' sounds cute, but it could sound patronising given a particular context.

lol - A cute barmaid there calling me 'pet'...

"This cis het female caucasian from an upper income bracket in red Louboutins wonders if her Fedex has arrived"

There's a story in that...

 

[Bubo_bubo]

The same people who think prayer shouldn't be allowed in school-I'm in agreement on that-are the same people who is a Muslim child wants to put down their prayer rug they're fine with that, because its not about religion its about the hatred of Christianity coupled with the fear of denying anyone 'brown' for fear of being a racist or Islamophobic, so until their is equality in all rules rather than exceptions and pick and choose, we will get division over it, but let's face it, division is what this country is now all about from the top to the mindless masses. All or none...not a hard concept.

None of these people care about anything but targeting what they hate while pushing their hate. I know my post sounds a bit crude, but that's what honesty and being unbiased looks like these days, its always an attack rather than a legit point

As for referring to females as females, thanks for proving my point about trying to remove the gender because you're making my point.

Calling a woman female is not an attack any more than calling a man male. Unless of course you're framing it in a derogatory way and in that light anything can be an insult.

My wife discussed the word "hon" once with me when I asked if she thought it was some type of slur. Her response was it depends from who and how. She works with an older man who has to use a cane. She'll grab him a cup of tea in the morning so he doesn't have to get up, and he always says thank you followed by hon, sometimes sweetheart, but my wife isn't bothered because his tone is appreciative and at his age that wasn't considered an insult or pandering.

On the other hand when one of her co-workers once told her, "cute you think that, hon" Now that is an insult in tone and usage.

This is common sense for anyone in the real world as opposed to the land of needing safety pins for harsh words and needing to always have something to cry over. As I said in another post somewhere its hilarious the people who cry about being labeled are the ones labeling everything.

LC, don't use the term female.....got that you Cis male?

Makes sense...if you're five.

This thread has already been enough derailed (mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa). So just two quick remarks:
- In terms of religion I think of religion in school a bit of like a dick: don't show it off to people and certainly don't try to shove it down any children's throats. But if children want to play around with theirs, let them, in private and outside class hours.
- I notice that in posting your tribute thread you called it "A Tribute to women. Wild, Bad Ass, sexy and FREE." rather than "A Tribute to females. Wild, Bad Ass, sexy and FREE." So somehow I think you realise that woman/women is the word best used in most cases rather than female(s) (again, as a noun - nothing against female as adjective). So I believe you're just being contrarian.

 

[black75]

My wife is not a writer, yet has so many stories to share.

We are just exploring the prospect of writing some long form stories, but it would be me writing them.

It makes me feel a bit inauthentic, even if I might be writing under her supervision. So don't know whether I should do that or not?

Please do.

 

[Athalia]

- I notice that in posting your tribute thread you called it "A Tribute to women. Wild, Bad Ass, sexy and FREE." rather than "A Tribute to females. Wild, Bad Ass, sexy and FREE." So somehow I think you realise that woman/women is the word best used in most cases rather than female(s) (again, as a noun - nothing against female as adjective).

I've always felt that "woman" as an adjective was problematic, and don't think there's anything wrong with "female" in that usage. I do agree that "woman" or "girl" is preferable to "female" as a noun.

That said, I don't get on the forum much these days, but am amused at how off the rails this topic has gone.

I think I'm going to start a topic "What do male writers think about females writing from a male perspective?" right after I finish this post.