What did Nazi Germany do for you? Is it right to denigrate Hitler?

[hobbit.]

Ok so here we are in 2017. Much like people will ask 'What did the romans do for us' and 'why can women vote' it seems a pertinent time to ask 'what did Nazi Germany do for you' ? to post a poll would seem insensitive, so no poll to follow.

for usOFa Nazi Germany laid the foundation of the space program and a funky design for a military helmet.

for Isreal and the jews, they have given them the chance to shout 'remember the holocaust' (as a means to deflect attention away from isreals own holocaust in Palestine) while screaming 'anti semetism' at every chance.

For the french (and most other off shore european cuntries) the germans have given them the golden excuse as to why they rolled over and played dead in 1939.

Us English though, Gods master race of choice, cleared Europe of the Nazi Scurge and unlike the Nazi Bastards, handed the shit hole cuntries back to the foriegn halfwits , such as De gaul inorder for them to lead to the creation of Andrea Leadsome and nigel farage.

What did your cuntry get from the Nazis? (Trump is not a valid excuse)

 

[Bert Notorius]

pleasant music?

Rammstein - Du Hast

 

[hobbit.]

pleasant music?

Rammstein - Du Hast

A metal band named after an airforce base! yes, that kind of thing.

 

[adrina]

So what you're saying is that every dark cloud has a silver lining.

Not to take away from the 'glory' of Hitler, but even Trump could turn into something of a lightning rod for a few issues. The environment being one of them.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Interesting bit of revisionism there, laddie.


Thank your lucky stars that Stalin didn't keep a'rollin' to the coast, and that he had little more navy that Hitler.


Of course, if Hitler had thrown it all at North Africa after kicking the shit outta the Balkans, he could have been in India by fall, if the wheels had stayed on the panzers. Then he could have gotten what he wanted out of Russia's Soft White Underbelly.


So they gave us revisionism, alternate endings, all the weapons to fight the Cold War, and some really cool paraphernalia.

 

[hobbit.]

he could have been in India by fall, if the wheels had stayed on the panzers..

Ok so the volkswagen audi group products are not so reliable, but hey.. Pontiac?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Ok so the volkswagen audi group products are not so reliable, but hey.. Pontiac?

Well, the Russians wound up with the successful pre-war Auto Union cars, so . . . .


I'm a Chrysler products guy, so fuck Pontiac.


I had a beetle once, and I liked it a bit. It's the only ragtop I ever owned.


I like my K98k, and I'd like to buy a G43 if I can ever find one that isn't total shit and under $2K . . . .

 

[JerichoEd]

Technology.

 

[hobbit.]

I'm a Chrysler products guy, so fuck Pontiac.


I had a beetle once, and I liked it a bit. It's the only ragtop I ever owned.


I like my K98k, and I'd like to buy a G43 if I can ever find one that isn't total shit and under $2K . . . .

I had a chrysler car once, it was fun, until the gearbox comited harikari at 40MPH, cogs everwhere.... was a cool car though rip.

ringo was over rated as a beetle,, more empty head than rag top.

Now the T34..... its what country lanes, highways, and built up areas where built for. excellent road handling and steering to die for.

 

[JerichoEd]

Hitler inspired terrorism.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I had a chrysler car once, it was fun, until the gearbox comited harikari at 40MPH, cogs everwhere.... was a cool car though rip.

ringo was over rated as a beetle,, more empty head than rag top.

Now the T34..... its what country lanes, highways, and built up areas where built for. excellent road handling and steering to die for.

Yes, and the T34 took out most of the Wehrmacht so we didn't have to.


It was low, and had the typical Soviet total disregard for ergonomics. The later tanks followed the same concept and weren't half bad until . . . Abrams.


I currently own three Chrysler products, all under the Dodge nameplate.


And I'm half-shopping Harleys . . . .


http://68.media.tumblr.com/95d0e9b57784cb1867eb22d799453dcb/tumblr_o6kkqmxRyE1tg6xbno1_400.jpg

 

[hobbit.]

Hitler inspired terrorism.

get a grip.

 

[hobbit.]

Yes, and the T34 took out most of the Wehrmacht so we didn't have to.


It was low, and had the typical Soviet total disregard for ergonomics. The later tanks followed the same concept and weren't half bad until . . . Abrams.


I currently own three Chrysler products, all under the Dodge nameplate.


And I'm half-shopping Harleys . . . .


[IM]

I think taking out is a slight exageration, its not as if they slept togther.

low slung suspension is good, much like most of the skoda range, now revamped under the volkswagen badge. (obviously without the long range gun)

Chrysler nearly killed me, but somehow.. Id buy another, if the gearbox was caged in.

two wheels are bad.

 

[JerichoEd]

get a grip.

He inspired them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world

 

[hobbit.]

He inspired them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world

do you have anything constructive to add to this debate?

 

[Sean]

Well, there were a shitload of decent films.

 

[hobbit.]

Well, there were a shitload of decent films.

involving the guy with the moustache who claimed to be from the bank and the maid.... the backing music always detracted from the on screen action....

633 squadron and the dam busters, which the isrealis later remade as 'raid on entebbe' (with out the water) yes, good point. ice cold in alex was also good.

Also the Christmas Blitz which lead to the building of the Arndale centre...

 

[jaF0]

I've said before that if Ol' Adolf had stuck to industry and engineering and stayed away from the atrocities, he'd have been remembered far differently.

The AutoBahn for one.

He could certainly motivate people to build things. Too bad many of them were built for the wrong reasons.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Despite the bloodshed, the war against Germany and the Axis powers reinvigorated Canada's industrial base, elevated the role of women in the economy, paved the way for Canada's membership in NATO, and left Canadians with a legacy of proud service and sacrifice embodied in names such as Dieppe, Hong Kong, Ortona and Juno Beach.

A Canadian policy committee decided in 1944 to construct an atomic reactor at the Chalk Nuclear Laboratories. The first reactor there did not "go critical" until after the Japanese surrender.

Canadian relations with the US became notably closer during the war. On 18 August 1940, King and Roosevelt, meeting at Ogdensburg, NY, announced an agreement (not a formal treaty) to set up a Permanent Joint Board on Defence, which met frequently thereafter to discuss mutual defence problems.

A reaction to American activity in the Canadian North (eg, the building of the Alaska Highway in 1942) was the appointment in 1943 of a Special Commissioner for Defence Projects in the Northwest, to reinforce Canadian control in the region.

National unity between French and English was damaged, though happily not so seriously as between 1914–1918. The economy was strengthened and its manufacturing capacity much diversified. National pride and confidence were enhanced. The status as an independent country, only shakily established in 1919, was beyond doubt after 1945. Canada was a power in her own right, if a modest one. On the other hand, it had been made painfully clear that "status" did not necessarily imply influence. A middle power had to limit its aspirations. Real authority in the world remained with the big battalions, the big populations, and the big money.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/second-world-war-wwii/

 

[Hard_Rom]

Yes Hitler should still be denigrated. WW II brought the world out of the Great Depression and stimulated science and technology like only modern total war can. Shame we can't harness that sort of creativity and sacrifice when at peace. The US came close when it determined to go to the moon.

Everything is so interconnected in history.

The Romans gave the iron plow to the Germans resulting in a population explosion. The Huns under such leaders as Attila meant that population explosion was forced to move west not east. Which resulted in the Anglo-Saxon invasions of England. Even the French are named after the Franks, a Germanic tribe. Even if they call themselves Gauls. Not unlike the Britains.

 

[MNGuy]

I think we could thank the Kaiser for the funky helmet. The Nazis just streamlined it for the M40 to make it more fashionable.'

Other countries had cool pre-world war II helmets:

The Soviet M36
The French Adrian M15
The Swiss M18

But goosestepping across Europe helped the Nazi's in branding their helmet.

 

[water505]

do you have anything constructive to add to this debate?

What debate?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

From where I sit, I got about 90% of the programming on the American Heroes Channel (AHC) using the same black and white film.

I'm really getting tired of it.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

From where I sit, I got about 90% of the programming on the American Heroes Channel (AHC) using the same black and white film.

I'm really getting tired of it.

You left out "grainy."


It is grainy, isn't it?


I got rid of cable because it lay unwatched, because I had passed the point where you are.


I mean, how many times can I see the same fucking Mark III Panzer roll through the same ditch and burst through the same shrubs??? Without shooting myself, that is . . . .


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-139-1112-17%2C_Heinz_Guderian.jpg

 

[GiaCat]

Nazi's gave us those cool Harley Davidson motorcycle helmets

http://meloncase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/german-helmet.jpg