What could destabilize Putin's regime?

[Politruk]

Apart from one hopeless bid by a mercenary commander to mount a coup, I have not heard of any internal threats to Putin's regime -- even though he has plunged Russia into an expensive and unpopular war. What would it take to overthrow him?

 

[73Seahawks]

Apart from one hopeless bid by a mercenary commander to mount a coup, I have not heard of any internal threats to Putin's regime -- even though he has plunged Russia into an expensive and unpopular war. What would it take to overthrow him?

At some point, Putin's going to have to die sooner or later. Once that happens, Russia will IMPLODE and become a failed country.

 

[Politruk]

Destabilizing a foreign regime is the CIA's job -- but if they were working on Russia, Trump has probably put a stop to it by now.

 

[AnomalyLady]

Watching. Would love to see folks opinions.

 

[stxjimmy]

Apart from one hopeless bid by a mercenary commander to mount a coup, I have not heard of any internal threats to Putin's regime -- even though he has plunged Russia into an expensive and unpopular war. What would it take to overthrow him?

Don’t think he’ll be overthrown but Western unity is the best course to deal with him.

 

[Politruk]

At some point, Putin's going to have to die sooner or later. Once that happens, Russia will IMPLODE and become a failed country.

He's much younger than Trump, at any rate.

 

[Politruk]

Don’t think he’ll be overthrown but Western unity is the best course to deal with him.

That's a problem -- Trump does not think of our allies as allies.

 

[OverlyCurious2]

Do you really want a country with a few thousand nuclear weapons to have a civil war, internal chaos etc ?
If Putin does go down, he's going to have to be replaced by another strong man who's open to the idea of real democracy and all that.
The risk of Russia having an internal meltdown is pretty scary. The Civil War of 1917 to 1921 was bad enough.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Somebody dig up Reagan.

 

[ll74]

Apart from one hopeless bid by a mercenary commander to mount a coup, I have not heard of any internal threats to Putin's regime -- even though he has plunged Russia into an expensive and unpopular war. What would it take to overthrow him?

Why are you such a dumbass?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Toilet paper shortage.

 

[stxjimmy]

That's a problem -- Trump does not think of our allies as allies.

But also why he’s so valuable to Russian interests.

 

[Saint_Ann]

James Bond.

 

[Politruk]

Do you really want a country with a few thousand nuclear weapons to have a civil war, internal chaos etc ?

If they can keep it all internal.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Pussy Riot.

 

[OverlyCurious2]

If they can keep it all internal.

Russia in chaos means countries like Poland, Finland and the like are going to start looking at the map and seeing where they can take little bits without to much trouble.
Ie Poland looking at Kaliningrad, Finland looking at the Arctic circle and regions further south.
For "peace keeping and stability" of course.

 

[Politruk]

We may hope that anything that causes regime change in Russia would also cause regime change in Belarus -- Lukashenko has been in power far too long.

 

[Saint_Ann]

The Taliban have a bone to pick.

 

[Rightguide]

We are very possibly in the “August 1914 moment” of our time, a deceptive calm where no one believes the other side will go that far. Everyone’s quietly moving assets. And once one major actor crosses a line, everything changes in hours.

 

[Baztrachian]

Apart from one hopeless bid by a mercenary commander to mount a coup, I have not heard of any internal threats to Putin's regime -- even though he has plunged Russia into an expensive and unpopular war. What would it take to overthrow him?

Putin's Russia will fail in much the same way the USSR failed.

One day he will issue orders and first one guy and then a growing number of guys will say, "Fuck that."

And it'll be over.

And the same generals and political leaders who listened to him one day will oppose him the next.

Sic semper tyrannus

 

[Politruk]

We are very possibly in the “August 1914 moment” of our time, a deceptive calm where no one believes the other side will go that far. Everyone’s quietly moving assets. And once one major actor crosses a line, everything changes in hours.

There's no reason to think this will lead to a wider conflict.

 

[Politruk]

After all the expensive disasters of the Ukraine war, why have the Russians not overthrown Putin?

Is it simply that no one wants to be first to try to bell the cat?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Tribbles.

 

[RobDownSouth]

At some point, Putin's going to have to die sooner or later. Once that happens, Russia will IMPLODE and become a failed country.

This is true. Putin rose through the ranks of the government internal security dept to assume power, then deftly dissembled this bureaucracy so no one following him could do the same to remove him.

What was it deGaulle said? "Apres moi, le deluge"?

 

[Politruk]

This is true. Putin rose through the ranks of the government internal security dept to assume power, then deftly dissembled this bureaucracy so no one following him could do the same to remove him.

What was it deGaulle said? "Apres moi, le deluge"?

That's usually (mis)attributed to King Louis XV.