What category should this fall under?

[_Imagine_]

Firstly, my apologies if this thread is in the wrong forum, I'm relatively new to the discussion board so if this should be posted somewhere else then please redirect me.

Basically I have a story brewing in my mind which follows the familiar "Big sister teaching 'lil sister how to have sex" theme.
The thing is that I don't really have any intention of having the two sisters engage directly in anything sexual together, so it's not really incest Big Sister would be more demonstrating on her boyfriend and then Lil Sister following suit.

It seems to me that there's not enough incest to include it in the Incest category but possibly too much to include it in the normal Group Sex category.

My other option is to either remove the sister aspect and just make it two friends learning (although I really like the sister dynamic) or to make it a full blown incest story.

Thoughts?

 

[sirhugs]

Incest tends to predominate over other options. The moderators may switch your category in any event.

If the "sister dynamic" is important to the story, I'd say incest....

 

[NiceNastyMann]

The younger sister is a nerd - glasses, great grades, and socially awkward? The bigger sister thinks this will help her little sis find boys.

Here's a twist - they realize they have the same taste in boys - so they continue having a fmf relationship with the bf.

But yes - while it's not a full fledged incest theme - what guy doesn't want to have sisters sexually?

 

[Hypoxia]

Sister-sister incest is less popular than (in order) mother-son, sister-brother, and father-daughter incest, but more popular than brother-brother incest. And if the sisters aren't having sex, it isn't incest, and won't be considered such by the genre readers. If the sisters share guys together (FMF or FMFM combos) but have no sexual contact themselves, then it might fit in Group Sex. If they share guys sequentially then it might be in Erotic Couplings. But if the sisters aren't muff-diving on each other, it ain't Incest.

 

[MatthewVett]

I think Incest. I did a story just with step-siblings, and it got moved into incest.

 

[Carnevil9]

Sounds like Group Sex to me. For incest, it has to FEEL like incest (even if there is no actual sex), and it sounds like yours will not.

 

[Hypoxia]

For incest, it has to FEEL like incest (even if there is no actual sex)...

Exactly.

I think Incest. I did a story just with step-siblings, and it got moved into incest.

Step-sibs can feel like incest if they've grown up together as siblings. If they only met last year when their folks hooked up, it's not very incestuous. What was the context of your story?

I've discoursed on this before. Incest ain't just biology -- it's about close relationships, about fucking those who FEEL like family. It's more about social context than mere biology.

* The father+daughter in my story THAT'S MY GIRL were separated for 30 years and didn't know their kinship when they hooked up. Biological incest, but not social.

* The same story features adopted (step) sisters, raised together since childhood, now together sexually. NOT biological, but definitely social incest.

And both social and technically biological incest are distinct from LIT Incest-Taboo stuff. Readers tend to punish stories of only cousin-sex -- and indeed, cousin marriage is common and even mandatory in much of the world, so it's not really generally taboo. Much step-sib sex is also non-taboo. So, it depends, eh?

 

[49greg]

If the sisters have sex, then it's in the incest category. But if there's no sex between the siblings and the little sister is watching big sis have her way with the boyfriend, then it could go exhibitionist/voyeur.

 

[Handley_Page]

Firstly, my apologies if this thread is in the wrong forum, I'm relatively new to the discussion board so if this should be posted somewhere else then please redirect me.

Basically I have a story brewing in my mind which follows the familiar "Big sister teaching 'lil sister how to have sex" theme.
The thing is that I don't really have any intention of having the two sisters engage directly in anything sexual together, so it's not really incest Big Sister would be more demonstrating on her boyfriend and then Lil Sister following suit.

Thoughts?

I'd suggest EC, or possibly Romance

 

[_Imagine_]

Thanks a lot for all the feedback!

I'm agreeing with the sentiment that incest needs to feel like incest and at the moment that's not quite the direction that I'm heading in. Although, I can never predict where the story might lead in my head

I understand the reasoning behind why the story could fall under Voyeur and EC too but I think the theme that the story is taking is going to wind up as Group Sex and as it lacks the crucial FEELING of incest I think it fits the GS category for now.

Will see if and where the admins move it to though. I'll post the link here when I'm done

Thanks all!

 

[Hypoxia]

I understand the reasoning behind why the story could fall under Voyeur and EC too but I think the theme that the story is taking is going to wind up as Group Sex and as it lacks the crucial FEELING of incest I think it fits the GS category for now.

Elements of incest can work in Group stories too, as long as incest isn't the MAIN story element. A few of my Group stories have family sex as sidelines; in one chapter, the incest episode is strong, but it's still only a fraction of the whole tale. Incest and Gay Male supposedly 'trump' other categories but I've inserted those elements into Group stories without nasty comments.

It's a matter of balance and context. What's the strongest theme? Are you, as the author, making a "big thing" of it? Let's say your sisters spend most of their time sharing guys. At some point they're pushed together -- they 69. If the rest of the story is about them slurping each other, it's Incest. If that's just a brief event and they go back to guy-fucking, it ain't. That's my take.

 

[3113]

I think it fits the GS category for now.

I agree. If the sisters both have sex with the boy but not each other than the GS folk should like it just fine.

 

[3113]

Mix it up?

The younger sister is a nerd - glasses, great grades, and socially awkward? The bigger sister thinks this will help her little sis find boys.

Don't you think it'd be more interesting if the nerdy girl actually knew more about sex than her sexy sister (who, it turns out, hasn't going all the way because she gets nervous or is saving herself?).

One should always consider turning a cliche on its head to add surprise and spice. Besides, don't you remember "Revenge of the Nerds" regarding who are the better lovers? Nerds are, it argues, wrongly cast as knowing little rather than knowing all.

 

[jehoram]

Regarding this category thing, I'm in the same pickle myself. I wrote a story about a massage parlor that gives erotic massages leading to "happy endings" ... sometimes three or four of them. But there's no intercourse, so "Erotic Couplings" is out. If masturbation is defined as something that you do to yourself, rather than handjobs and such, then "Toys and Masturbation" is out. And it isn't group sex, since there are only the masseuses and the client.

If there are more stories in the series, I could see them going into "Gay Sex" or maybe "Mature" but neither of those categories apply to this story.

Any suggestions?

 

[Hypoxia]

Regarding this category thing, I'm in the same pickle myself. I wrote a story about a massage parlor that gives erotic massages leading to "happy endings" ... sometimes three or four of them. But there's no intercourse, so "Erotic Couplings" is out. If masturbation is defined as something that you do to yourself, rather than handjobs and such, then "Toys and Masturbation" is out. And it isn't group sex, since there are only the masseuses and the client.

If there are more stories in the series, I could see them going into "Gay Sex" or maybe "Mature" but neither of those categories apply to this story.

Any suggestions?

Sounds to me like EC is the catch-all place for this, but other cats could work in the right circumstances. Are the massages hands-only, or are tongues and tit-fucks and maybe full-body rubs involved? Could some intercourse sneak in? Then EC is right. Are the massages MF only, or are there other combos, maybe threesomes or more with 2+ masseuses on a client? Then it's Group. If the masseuses are married and hubbies don't know their work, then it could go LW.

 

[jehoram]

Sounds to me like EC is the catch-all place for this, but other cats could work in the right circumstances. Are the massages hands-only, or are tongues and tit-fucks and maybe full-body rubs involved?

They can be full-body-rubs. But no intercourse ... that's sort of the hook for the story.

Are the massages MF only, or are there other combos, maybe threesomes or more with 2+ masseuses on a client? Then it's Group.

There is a point in this story where the client is attended to by two masseuses, so Group may indeed be the answer. But that may not be a factor in subsequent stories.

 

[Athalia]

Group may indeed be the answer. But that may not be a factor in subsequent stories.

I remember that we talked about this during the editing process. My initial feeling was that it should go into "erotic couplings" since it is nowhere written (that I know of) that such couplings must be coitic. (Is that a word? It should be, so it is now.)

However, in your first story there are indeed three people in the room, so perhaps Hypoxia's suggestion is the best one. IIRC, the next story has four people in the room, with elements of exhibitionism, so categories are bound to get blurred anyway. If the number of people in the room (more than two) is the only common thread in the series, I think Laurel would expect to see it in Group Sex.

 

[DreamCloud]

Write the story as it was meant to be, then decide.

I have yet to write a story to fit a category. I just hope there is a category to place the story in when I am done.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I think Incest. I did a story just with step-siblings, and it got moved into incest.

Explain why step-sibling sex is incest?

 

[sirhugs]

Explain why step-sibling sex is incest?

because it is taboo, which does not require blood consanguinity.

It is also defined as incest in many jurisdictions...

 

[Hypoxia]

because it is taboo, which does not require blood consanguinity.

It is also defined as incest in many jurisdictions...

See my comment #7 above. Step-sibs raised together since infancy are more taboo than those who met at 17 when their folks hooked up last year. And some jurisdictions define impermissible relationships, not because of incest, but to prevent nepotism.

As for the story being moved, it's possible that fallible Laurel just scanned the story too fast and goofed. That happens.