What about Muslims who are already here?

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Trump wants to block Muslims from coming into this country (y'know, for now - while we're still figuring things out).

But what about Muslim and Muslim-sympathizers who are already in America? Seems safe to say that these folks could pose a significant danger to Americans - indeed, haven't they already?

I think the House needs to form a committee to investigate both private and public citizens who could pose a threat to this nation via active plots, ideals, or ties to Muslim interests which could threaten the safety of our nation.

I'm particularly worried about Hollywood. We know L.A. will have something to say about a crackdown on Muslims; certainly their reactionary, pro-Muslim propaganda will also pose a danger to the population. The House committee might need to look into directors, actors, and writers who get involved in such a thing - perhaps a list could be maintained.
 
Internment camps, obviously. I'm also surprised Michelle Malkin hasn't already proposed it as she's such a big fan of it.
 
Internment camps, obviously. I'm also surprised Michelle Malkin hasn't already proposed it as she's such a big fan of it.

Only a matter of time.

But it's not like we'd make those camps uncomfortable. They could have their prayer blankets. And Netflix.
 
Trump wants to block Muslims from coming into this country (y'know, for now - while we're still figuring things out).

But what about Muslim and Muslim-sympathizers who are already in America? Seems safe to say that these folks could pose a significant danger to Americans - indeed, haven't they already?

I think the House needs to form a committee to investigate both private and public citizens who could pose a threat to this nation via active plots, ideals, or ties to Muslim interests which could threaten the safety of our nation.

I'm particularly worried about Hollywood. We know L.A. will have something to say about a crackdown on Muslims; certainly their reactionary, pro-Muslim propaganda will also pose a danger to the population. The House committee might need to look into directors, actors, and writers who get involved in such a thing - perhaps a list could be maintained.

And anyone who sympathizes with Muslims should be investigated.

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_50/1329681/151207-trump-ali-jpo-351a_8384dc4598fa9075467ab1a952e7af2f.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

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The FBI said these two have been radical for quite sometime, they wouldn't say how long. Either they don't know how long or they are not saying because they've been told not to say.

I agree with Obama that non radical Muslims need to step up let their voices be heard but we've been waiting for that since 9/11. I don't know where he can go with that, unless he has so grand plan to change the status quo?
 
I agree with Obama that non radical Muslims need to step up let their voices be heard

That's not the American way, though. The American way is to remain silent when some asshole goes off the deep end - as long as they vote the same way you do, or pray to the same god.

They learned it by watching us.
 
That's not the American way, though. The American way is to remain silent when some asshole goes off the deep end - as long as they vote the same way you do, or pray to the same god.

They learned it by watching us.

You do realize what is going to happen if they don't step up right?
 
You do realize what is going to happen if they don't step up right?

Yeah - everyone in the country will die.

Or, they'll step up, and we'll all live...to kill ourselves slowly with sugar, corn, cigarettes, alcohol, and daily doses of stupid.
 
The FBI said these two have been radical for quite sometime, they wouldn't say how long. Either they don't know how long or they are not saying because they've been told not to say.

I agree with Obama that non radical Muslims need to step up let their voices be heard but we've been waiting for that since 9/11. I don't know where he can go with that, unless he has so grand plan to change the status quo?

Muslims across the country speak up against terrorism and extremism all the time, and the media ignores them.
 
Islamic Terror Attacks on American Soil


  1. 4/14/1972 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
  2. 1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
  3. 7/1/1973 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
  4. 7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
  5. 10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
  6. 10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
  7. 11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
  8. 12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
  9. 12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
  10. 12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
  11. 12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
  12. 12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
  13. 1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
  14. 4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
  15. 4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
  16. 3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
  17. 7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
  18. 8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
  19. 11/6/1989 USA St. Louis, MO 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing 'dishonor' to their family by dating an 'infidel' African-American.
  20. 1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
  21. 11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
  22. 1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
  23. 2/26/1993 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
  24. 3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
  25. 3/23/1997 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
  26. 4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
  27. 3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
  28. 9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
  29. 9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
  30. 9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
  31. 3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
  32. 5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
  33. 7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
  34. 9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
  35. 9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
  36. 9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
  37. 10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
  38. 10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
  39. 10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
  40. 10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
  41. 10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
  42. 10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
  43. 8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
  44. 4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
  45. 6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
  46. 6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
  47. 7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
  48. 1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
  49. 7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
  50. 2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
  51. 4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
  52. 6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
  53. 11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
  54. 11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
  55. 12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
  56. 4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
  57. 4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
  58. 9/11/2011 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
  59. 1/15/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
  60. 11/12/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
  61. 2/7/2013 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
  62. 3/24/2013 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
  63. 4/15/2013 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
  64. 4/19/2013 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
  65. 8/4/2013 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
  66. 3/6/2014 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
  67. 4/27/2014 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
  68. 6/1/2014 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
  69. 6/25/2014 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
  70. 9/25/2014 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
  71. 7/16/2015 USA Chattanooga 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
  72. 12/2/2015 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas par
 
I guess everyone has already forgotten about the Boston Marathon bombers.

They killed 3 people.

Murders in Boston so far this year: 33

Haven't seen anything about the latter from you. Don't pretend like you give a fuck. :cool:
 
Muslims across the country speak up against terrorism and extremism all the time, and the media ignores them.

Just as when African American leaders who have spoken about gun violence.

I do wonder though when they'll hold the whites accountable and ask them to speak up.
 
They killed 3 people.

Murders in Boston so far this year: 33

Haven't seen anything about the latter from you. Don't pretend like you give a fuck. :cool:

So what is it going to take to wake the sympathetic left up?
A suitcase nuke?
911 wasn't big enough for you?
"They" were all "here".
 
So what is it going to take to wake the sympathetic left up?

Once I hear "Hi - I'm willing to let the threat of terrorism compromise the foundations of what my country stands for because I'm scared shitless" said by people like yourself, I'll start listening to you.

Otherwise, it's all bullshit.
 
Trump wasn't talking about muslims, that's why it doesn't make sense.

(Paraphrasing)
News guy: Do you think we should have a database for muslims?
Trump: I think we should worry about the border and building a wall first.
News guy: Is that something your white house would like to implement?
Trump: Yes.
News guy: Why would that benefit the u.s.?
Trump: It would stop illegal immigrants from coming into the country.

What does it sound like he was talking about there? A muslim database? Or the freaking wall he wont shut up about?
 
Trump wasn't talking about muslims, that's why it doesn't make sense.

(Paraphrasing)
News guy: Do you think we should have a database for muslims?
Trump: I think we should worry about the border and building a wall first.
News guy: Is that something your white house would like to implement?
Trump: Yes.
News guy: Why would that benefit the u.s.?
Trump: It would stop illegal immigrants from coming into the country.

What does it sound like he was talking about there? A muslim database? Or the freaking wall he wont shut up about?

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html

Do keep up.
 
Once I hear "Hi - I'm willing to let the threat of terrorism compromise the foundations of what my country stands for because I'm scared shitless" said by people like yourself, I'll start listening to you.

Otherwise, it's all bullshit.

Is it? Bullshit?
 
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