What a difference a gay makes!

Nexxus

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I am thrilled to see that a movie is being made based on the atrocities (spelling?) that were put upon Matthew Shepherd. But I am wondering what has happen to the less than human life forms that did those things to him. Have they been rendered unconscious and hidden somewhere to be tortured unmercifully as they deserve? Or will we be paying for their three free squares a day for the rest of our lives as they live a life of small, but available freedoms that Matthew will never know again?

Nex
 
That is very tragic. He was born the same year I was, and he had his whole life ahead of him. I don't know what happened with those guys but I think their crime is big enough for the death penalty whatever happens, I hope they meet some big gay immate who terrorizes them like he did their victim. This incident is kind of like that dragging death in Jasper Texas. It is such a shame that one can be killed for what they are or how they live in this day and age.
 
What happened is that one avoided the Death Penalty by pleading guilty and with the other, Matthews family asked that the guy be given life in prison instead of the Death Penalty as they didn't "wish to seek revenge". There is an interview with Mrs. Shepard at http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/05/15/greta.shepard/

By the way, in his acceptance speech Thursday, Gore promised that if elected, he will push through the Hate Crime bill.

I was fence sitting before that, playing eeney meeney miney moe between the two junior good ol' boys, but if he's telling the truth, he's got my vote.
 
Thanks for the site "P."
I saw Al Gore give those remarks and I hope he is serious. I never liked "Jr." so I guess Al will have to do. To tell the truth I think if Clinton ran again he would have probably won!! Politics, go figger!

Nex
 
That's probably true, Nex. The right-wing radio talk show hosts keep playing up how America is "fed up" with Clinton's "immorality", which is funny because no one cared about the whole Monica Lewinsky thing even when it happened! Clinton's approval rating soared during the trial. And it's funny to see the Republicans play dirty pool - pulling stunts like leaking the Independent Counsel stuff during the Democratic National Convention, like having John McCain announce in a press conference that he had a sunburn or something like that...
 
It would be a lot funnier if Dubya's handlers didn't seem to be more competent than Gore's at this stage. Or if Dubya didn't do a deal with Orrin Hatch -- guess who is line for a nomination to the Supreme Court should Dubya get elected?

That's not funny at all.
 
Actually, speaking of Republicans, I usually have my mind occupied with more important things like...oh, sex, when politics is the topic, but whatever happened to jack kemp (Dole's running mate)? I thought he was kinda cool in a stuffy sorta way, but he seemed to disappear off the face of the earth. Anybody know?

Nex
 
Guilt by Association

Jack Kemp was there at the Republican Social. He is shunned because he was connected to a disaster (Dole/Kemp) and because he was not anti-affirmative action enough for the core of the party. He was right on empowerment zones working to create opportunities in cities and Clinton wisely used his ideas (which both Reagan and Bush passed on when Kemp was at HUD).

Remember the protest at the Republican Convention when the openly gay congressman from Wisconsin spoke? Compassionate Conservatism in action. Before Dubya, they probably would have had him shot. Now they just humiliate and disrespect him.

I hate to say it but Gore does need to go negative to win. He has to make Bush the issue and get off the hot seat. He needs to make a phone call to James Carville and quit being so damn nice.
 
More Guilt by Association

If Kemp is shunned for his association with a failed campaign, why isn't Dubya shunned for his obvious association with the whole Reagan/Bush debacle that we called the eighties?

Please explain to me something which I have never understood: how is it that being the son of Broccoli Bush is a positive thing--an advantage to exploit? Does nobody REMEMBER the first version? *sigh*
 
Always remember, history is doomed to repeat itself.
No one shuns Jr. 'cause all the people following him are big business and morons (there are alot om 'em out there you know!), they think they have another shot at the White House and another Sr. on their hands.
The hard line Republicans are like the greedy, rich, egotistical uncle who thinks just because he's old, loud and stuffed with cash his ideas are perfect for the whole family. They are a disgrace to this country and muddle up the gene pool!!
 
Nexxus said:
like the greedy, rich, egotistical uncle who thinks just because he's old, loud and stuffed with cash his ideas are perfect for the whole family.

Ted Kennedy ;)

PS

Big George is George Herbert Walker Bush, Dubya is George Walker Bush. They aren't Sr. & Jr.

All of politics, left, right, and right down the middle, is full of special interests, lobbying goons, and tons of machinations. As a registered Independent, my votes go, or not, to a particular candidate. Riding a party line too hard cause blisters. *ouchies*

Finally, it's Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

Paynie
 
The Shepard boy demise was something that no one should be subjected too. And they will get theirs one way or another.

And as for the politicans we really don't have much of a choice, but I don't care for Al Gore he is an uptight man and I don't trust him in the least.

But if Clinton were running again he probally would win because people like what he has accomplished in the 8 years he has been in office. And he has done a lot for our country. So at this point I would have to go towards Bush because he at least is new and has a lot of good points. Not that we can trust him either, but I have to vote for someone.
 
The tragedy of Matthew Shepard makes me, as a parent, wish I could build a bomb shelter in the back yard and move there with my boys. The frightening reality is that no matter how tolerant and compassionate I teach my boys to be, there are still other people out there who raise their children with much different views.
As for this upcoming election, I personally find both choices equally distasteful. Dubya smirks a bit too much for my liking. Smirking is fine, and I do it myself quite often, but a president who smirks bugs the shit out of me. Besides am I the only person who thinks Bush is acting like he has descended from on high to grace us with his presence? As for Gore, campaign finance reform, my ass. I can't forget him sitting there looking stupid in that Buddhist temple. Or that episode of the Simpsons then Lisa buys a copy of his book, Earth in the Balance, when he learned of it he gets down with his bad self to Celebration by Kool and the Gang.
I read somewhere that the author was going to write in a vote for Frank Zappa to protest Tipper and her conservativism (read censorship). Think I might do the same.
 
Sorry for getting at little OT here, but how the hell did he get the nickname "Dubya" in the first place?
 
I suppose so their household wouldn't be like George Foreman's, with 5 sons named George or whatever.

Dubya is hick spelling for W., which is what his family and friends call him. Or at least that's what Wolf Blitzer said on CNN.

I think you're still on topic as long as you use at least one actual subject from any previous post in the thread, heehee. ;)
 
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