We're enterimg a new era of neonationalism and resurgence of Religious belief

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1.Over the last decades, the global spread of neoliberalism has been paralleled by a steady decline in religious belief, at least in Western countries.

The dynamics behind the global spread of neoliberalism are pretty clear to most (unregulated capitalism with policies set almost exclusively by banks and so on).

On the other hand, there are many reasons that might account for the decline in religious belief (scientific advances, as a reaction to the bigotry of several religious institutions or so on).
On top of that, militant secularism / the new atheism and faith in the big government as opposed to God were actively promoted by several public intellectual figures and by the neoliberal class.
Even president Obama implied at one point that religious belief belonged to the more uneducated and poor masses. (Odd change in mentalities, since prior to that the prevailing view was that it belonged to the more educated.)


2.However, as Mark Blyth said, we're now facing an unprecedented turn in events on a global scale. "The era of neoliberalism is over. The era of neonationalism has just begun".

The electorate has decided against the current masterplan,
- and political parties that promoted neoliberalism/ globalization under the umbrella of unregulated capitalism
- are being gradually replaced by neonationalistic political parties.
Brexit, Greece, Trump's election, and possibly more elections to come (in Italy, Spain, France, Germany) demonstrate this.

And for a significant part of the neonationalistic parties, religion (as in Christianity in westetn countries) also plays a significant role.



3.So, as Mark Blyth said, are we entering an era of neonationalism and possibly resurgence of religious belief worldwide?

But since history often demonstrates that even movements that started under the right premises (to liberate people from totallitarian regimes) often end up emullating those whom they dethroned,
- how much of a risk is there that the R wing parties who are gaining power in America and Europe will end up imposing a totallitarian and fascist regime?

Similarly, will religious institutions embrace religion's spiritual and communitarian spirit, or wil. religion just be used as a tool for mass control and oppression by the govt.?
 
Economist Who Predicted Brexit & Trump Brilliantly Explains Capitalism's Collapse
The Jimmy Dore Show
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8bf6dbYt4

Mark Blyth ─ Global Trumpism
Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm2Vfj42FYx

Global Trumpism
by Mark Blyth
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...lobal-trumpism


Quotes and captions available in my other thread that almost nobody nothered reading lol

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1373692
 
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I think a Jesus Makeover's coming.

Goatee and maybe some LukGel.

"Say, jesus...you been working out, bro?"

Less cheek turning, more of his dad's wrath... smiting! And a jacked up ram 3500 cummins.
 
Chances are that no one will bother commenting and that my thread will be littered by pictures of anuses and penises by Emerson40 and Rob jr or sr's attack alts.

But nevermind. I'm doing it more for myself, to keep a diary of my own thoughts, that won't be lost in the internal or external clutter
 
I was wrong.

AJ and Lance posted!
Yay!

They're always welcome, even when they post tongue in cheeks
 
No, mine was serious.

When one political movement pushes too hard too fast, the people it means to rule will react and rebel.

Luckily, in most of the remnants of the West, it is still a peaceful revolt by ballot. I am beginning to suspect that as the pendulum swings away from the Left, the will resort to more physical and direct means of Revolution. It's what they do...
 
No, mine was serious.

When one political movement pushes too hard too fast, the people it means to rule will react and rebel.

Luckily, in most of the remnants of the West, it is still a peaceful revolt by ballot. I am beginning to suspect that as the pendulum swings away from the Left, the will resort to more physical and direct means of Revolution. It's what they do...

Do you think the pendulum could swing back and reverse decades of moving towards a more secular society (speaking of US)? Will the revolution be based on religion and trying to preserve Christianity?

I have to believe that today's youth and future generations will only be less religious. I think this is s good thing.
 
No, mine was serious.

When one political movement pushes too hard too fast, the people it means to rule will react and rebel.

Luckily, in most of the remnants of the West, it is still a peaceful revolt by ballot. I am beginning to suspect that as the pendulum swings away from the Left, the will resort to more physical and direct means of Revolution. It's what they do...

Wow… It might actually turn out to be that drastic.


Tell you what: and I'm not trying to make this about ME. I'm talking about my own experience as a template, because I suppose that many other laypeople faced the same confusion.



Just like everybody else, I knew that from a global pov, things have gone terribly wrong and about the 0.01% and the Wall Street bailout and so on. But I struggled to conceptualise things into a logical and coherent framework.

And oh boy, the massmedia made things even more confusing for me, because there was this constant double bind message: the 0.01% are screwing you all over, but globalization in it's current form -under the unchecked ruling of the 0.01%- is a great thing.
Nevermind the entire massmedia and GB progressive racist hunting of those who criticise globalisation (u der it's current neoliberal form, that is)


I think that now that political analysts and so on are gaining courage and are starting to explain things more to laypeople, people are starting to gain a better understanding.
Beforehand, people were confused about things and confusion breeds apathy and inactivity.
Whereas Knowledge and insight are power, and this too will precipitate a further soft or hard revolution.
 
Do you think the pendulum could swing back and reverse decades of moving towards a more secular society (speaking of US)? Will the revolution be based on religion and trying to preserve Christianity?

I have to believe that today's youth and future generations will only be less religious. I think this is s good thing.

I agree with the criticisms of the Institutional part of it with it's restrictions and bigotry. Or of the part of it which takes everything in the Bible literally and believes in a personal God.

But the more "spiritual" part of it and the belief in a pantheistic God often offer people a moral code and a sense of meaning and resilience in their lives.

I'm not religious either but for me, "the new atheism" as in the belief that everything in the Universe is just chaos isn't always a good thing and can sometimes be demoralising.
 
I can't believe that you turned things around and claimed that I've been harassing you, Lyricalli
What a passive- aggressive bitch you are.

For more than a year you've been on my back mocking me and giggling first with Que, then with Emerson whenever I was trying to get them off my back (Que's initial trolling with personal stuff that I was stupid enough to leak, then Emerson disgusting buttholes and butt sex trolling). You've been derriding me and actively encouraging the skeeviest of trolling.
I never initiated contact and I simply reacted to your attacks by responding in kind. I even tried to ask for a truce and be friendly with you, but you refused my offer. The archive doesn't lie.

But you turn things around and for you, the effect lead to the cause. Passive aggressive Blurt style.


So yeah, I'm going to engage in name calling and "sex shame" you as long as you keep doing that. Because I'm far from a lady, the way you perceive yourself to be,
So stop sucking Emerson's and Que's cocks. It's unbecoming.


Oh my Gawd.

Every single day.

:rolleyes:
 
On top of that, militant secularism / the new atheism and faith in the big government as opposed to God were actively promoted by several public intellectual figures and by the neoliberal class.

New atheism? LOL there isn't an old or new atheism.

Even president Obama implied at one point that religious belief belonged to the more uneducated and poor masses.

And he was right, it's very difficult to reconcile old world religions with modern science. We know about bacteria and viruses now...it's not a demonic possession making people sick and bleeding them with leeches won't do a fucking thing to help them.

Fact. :)

2.However, as Mark Blyth said, we're now facing an unprecedented turn in events on a global scale. "The era of neoliberalism is over. The era of neonationalism has just begun".

It certainly looks that way.

The electorate has decided against the current masterplan,
- and political parties that promoted neoliberalism/ globalization under the umbrella of unregulated capitalism

Anyone who thinks capitalism has gone unregulated is a clueless fuckin twat who shouldn't be taken seriously.

3.So, as Mark Blyth said, are we entering an era of neonationalism and possibly resurgence of religious belief worldwide?

- how much of a risk is there that the R wing parties who are gaining power in America and Europe will end up imposing a totallitarian and fascist regime?

Similarly, will religious institutions embrace religion's spiritual and communitarian spirit, or wil. religion just be used as a tool for mass control and oppression by the govt.?

There is always a risk of a wing going off the deep end.

And no I don't think religion will make a resurgence, we've shot it so full of holes the faithful have to ignore the modern world to keep that faith.
 
Great that you posted too, muchas gracias BB
Just a specification:

By "new atheists" I wasn't referring to the agnostics or regular atheists like you, who don't necessarily agree with their faith but they let religious people be.

I was referring to the more extremist, militant type of atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, who have no tolerance for the regular folks. who embrace any religion (Chriszianity, in particular) and want them to burn in hell because of that.
I can also think of a couple of GB posters who behave in a similar manner to the latter group
 
Anyone who thinks capitalism has gone unregulated is a clueless fuckin twat who shouldn't be taken seriously.
I was referring more in the line of this aspect of it:

"in 2015, Wall Street bonuses(not regular compensations )seven years after they were bailed out with the public purse, totalled 28.4 billion dollars. Total compensation paid to every Single person from this country who earns minimum wage:40 billion dollars."
Mark Blyth, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm2Vfj42FY
 
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Humans lick their lips and rub their bellies for whatever serves their basic needs....secular or divine. And its about a tie as to the results.

I have my own theory of personality. We possess 2 personalities, one I call the archaic personality we have from birth to puberty, the other I call the executive personality we acquire from puberty to adult maturation. They cooperate and struggle our whole lives. The archaic is the realm of religion and imagination and basic drives, the other is the realm of scientific method, logic, and philosophy.
 
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Geez... Some people just jump in threads and try and make it all about them.






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Humans lick their lips and rub their bellies for whatever serves their basic needs....secular or divine. And its about a tie as to the results.

I have my own theory of personality. We possess 2 personalities, one I call the archaic personality we have from birth to puberty, the other I call the executive personality we acquire from puberty to adult maturation. They cooperate and struggle our whole lives. The archaic is the realm of religion and imagination and basic drives, the other is the realm of scientific method, logic, and philosophy.

Wow! You put the dots on the ii's as usual.

And a lot of people's personality clashes are around that too, not only around different values.
- Some people are more rational, organised and keen on the scientific methodical or practical part,
- whereas others are more intuitive-creative and focused on the abstract.

The wars between obsessionals "OCD"ers like Que and SgtSpidetman versus the "ADDers" like AJ or even Disgustipated
(figuratively speaking, of course no insult intended)
 
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GEEZ!...Your threads should be given the same respect and consideration you've shown others. :mad:

tbh: people should just expect to be treated like they treat others.


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Humans lick their lips and rub their bellies for whatever serves their basic needs....secular or divine. And its about a tie as to the results.

I have my own theory of personality. We possess 2 personalities, one I call the archaic personality we have from birth to puberty, the other I call the executive personality we acquire from puberty to adult maturation. They cooperate and struggle our whole lives. The archaic is the realm of religion and imagination and basic drives, the other is the realm of scientific method, logic, and philosophy.

And most folks never grow up.;)
 
And most folks never grow up.;)



Sure, but what about me, me, me, me, me, me, BLURT GURLS, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, LYRICALLI, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, MOAR ATTENTION, me, me, me, me, me, me, tbh, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, EVERY DAY I SPAM, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, EMERSON, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, PASSIVE-AGRESSIVE, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, tbh, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I SPAM THE THREADS, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, BTW: me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, CYBERSTALKING, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, GEEZ,me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, VICTIM, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, MY POLITICAL COPY & PASTE THREADS, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I'AM SMRT AND HAVE DIGNITY, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, ANAL, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, ROBDOWNSOUTH, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, ALT, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.



*chvckle*
 
Humans lick their lips and rub their bellies for whatever serves their basic needs....secular or divine. And its about a tie as to the results.

I have my own theory of personality. We possess 2 personalities, one I call the archaic personality we have from birth to puberty, the other I call the executive personality we acquire from puberty to adult maturation. They cooperate and struggle our whole lives. The archaic is the realm of religion and imagination and basic drives, the other is the realm of scientific method, logic, and philosophy.

In saying that, that's the western modern perspective which places much higher value on certain personalities that are a better fit for roles such as economists, scientists, engineersm psychologists, doctors or so on.

Discounting the fact that society needs artists, philosophers, teachers or religious people too.
No wonder teachers or artists have such a low oay frade in this market driven society.
 
Great that you posted too, muchas gracias BB
Just a specification:

By "new atheists" I wasn't referring to the agnostics or regular atheists like you, who don't necessarily agree with their faith but they let religious people be.

I was referring to the more extremist, militant type of atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, who have no tolerance for the regular folks. who embrace any religion (Chriszianity, in particular) and want them to burn in hell because of that.
I can also think of a couple of GB posters who behave in a similar manner to the latter group

Their not giving a fuck how much it pisses the religious folks off to call religion make believe doesn't make them militant atheists.

They don't want anyone to burn in hell, they find the notion of such a place fuckin' absurd.

I was referring more in the line of this aspect of it:

"in 2015, Wall Street bonuses(not regular compensations )seven years after they were bailed out with the public purse, totalled 28.4 billion dollars. Total compensation paid to every Single person from this country who earns minimum wage:40 billion dollars."
Mark Blyth, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm2Vfj42FY

How is that unregulated capitalism???

:confused:
 
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