Well, this sucked as well

[TE999]

Back up the moving truck and get the hell out.

A senile landlord and psycho neighbors, sheesh.

Life's too short for crap like that.

It's a shame about all those improvements she made, though.

 

[cantdog]

Couldn't she sue them for harrassment or filing a malicious report or something?

Wine certainly does freeze. I ended up having a Chenin Blanc slushy because of this.

Those wine fridges are getting cheaper all the time, you can see them in Wal-Mart and Costco and places like that.

Yeah

He had that all way wrong. But he was also terrified of her, man. He couldn't talk straight for his quaking. Weird. That's why he didn't speak to her, and why he snuck up there while she was gone to dump all the rack and bags of bottles. He was too fearful to actually address her.

 

[cantdog]

The dude is deeply weird. So are some of my closest friends, but theirs doesn't cripple them like this.

 

[cantdog]

Back up the moving truck and get the hell out.

A senile landlord and psycho neighbors, sheesh.

Life's too short for crap like that.

It's a shame about all those improvements she made, though.

Yep. Still the wisest course. She really does have odd hours and sometimes noisy uh things going on. She is due for a house of her own.

 

[Huckleman2000]

Yep. Still the wisest course. She really does have odd hours and sometimes noisy uh things going on. She is due for a house of her own.

It's a buyers' market in real estate, and interest rates are still pretty good - couldn't pick a better time.

 

[starrkers]

A couple of friends of mine had major problems with a neighbour. They were young and female and sharing a house. He was old and cranky and lived next door. He would ring the police complaining about the noise on average twice a week. The police are obliged to come. On several occasions the girls were asleep. No once was there a valid cause for the complaint.
They eventually had a harrassment order taken out against this old bastard. Turned out he wanted to buy the house and thought if he drove out the tenants often enough, the owner would put it on the market at a low price.

Maybe these weirdos are hoping to buy the house themselves.

 

[Samandiriel]

I would have a friend dress up like a lawyer or realstate agent...nice suit or dress....hold a clip board, walk around the house, jot notes, pretend to take pictures....etc. Just fuck with their heads a bit.

 

[cantdog]

I would have a friend dress up like a lawyer or realstate agent...nice suit or dress....hold a clip board, walk around the house, jot notes, pretend to take pictures....etc. Just fuck with their heads a bit.

Subtle.

 

[cantdog]

A couple of friends of mine had major problems with a neighbour. They were young and female and sharing a house. He was old and cranky and lived next door. He would ring the police complaining about the noise on average twice a week. The police are obliged to come. On several occasions the girls were asleep. No once was there a valid cause for the complaint.
They eventually had a harrassment order taken out against this old bastard. Turned out he wanted to buy the house and thought if he drove out the tenants often enough, the owner would put it on the market at a low price.

Maybe these weirdos are hoping to buy the house themselves.

It's difficult to attribute a lot of power drive to someone as petrified as this fellow is. But anything is possible. He could have been deeply offended by the raucous and frequent sex, and plotted in his little head to Rule the World. Power is built in to the ape social system. Fear is a strong motivator to power even in ordinary circumstances, since power results in a certain amount of control of the environment. Many a megalomaniac began as a fearfilled little soul, and remains one at heart. Watch the behavior of middle management, for instance.

People are capable of many unexpected things. I was on an ambulance for a decade, thousands of calls. I can tell you that however much they may wear the mask in public spaces, people in their own homes live wildly disparate lives from one another. Really. I mean, frequently folks do not have time or ability to dress the place for company, when it's time to summon an ambulance. One sees, as it were, the proverbial slice of life.

There may actually be no normal. Or else, normal may refer to the mask I mentioned earlier.

They have portraits of Christ, framed in the feathers and weaving motifs of Native Americans, in their windows. They have so much of this paraphernalia, coupled with small lights in strings, that the windows may as well have been painted over.

I am seldom there but on Sunday nights and evenings, but the place is dark a lot but for the strings of lights and low lights from the kitchen area. Even television glow is not usual.

 

[cantdog]

It's a buyers' market in real estate, and interest rates are still pretty good - couldn't pick a better time.

Her personal timing on this is good. Student loans have melted like skim ice in the sunshine, because pharmacists do make the bucks. Thse are negligible now, her car is paid for, and she has an aversion to getting into debt. Consequently she is well on the way to a nest egg capable of a solid down payment. If she suddenly came to a decision to do it, she could.

 

[Weird Harold]

Perhaps she could buy the house. The landlord placed it on the market not long ago, but withdrew it again. She can afford to do that.

That sounds like a perfect solution, except these people don't sound like the type to be overly concerned about harassing or calling the cops on their landlord.

 

[Vermilion]

Tell her to buy. Noone needs the stress of neighbours like this, especially not a woman on her own (sorry if that sounds sexist, but people actually try things on a lot more with a woman on her own than if there's a man around or more than one person). Either buy the house she's in and kick them out or find somewhere else.
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[mjl2010]

Tell her to buy. Noone needs the stress of neighbours like this, especially not a woman on her own (sorry if that sounds sexist, but people actually try things on a lot more with a woman on her own than if there's a man around or more than one person). Either buy the house she's in and kick them out or find somewhere else.
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Takes too long to kick people out in the US. She should just move unless she's really into the place. If she's doing well then buy, otherwise a new rental.

MJL

 

[cantdog]

You're right. They would be difficult to eject in a timely way. Influencing the landlord being a closed avenue, they would involve the police more. It would force her to court. But that might not be such a bad deal. A court order of restraint might well entail vacating her house...

Anyway. thanks to all of you for rallying round. It made me feel better, right off. You people are all right.

 

[cantdog]

but it sucks to have an asshole for a neighbor.

In fact, a friendly conversation with the landlord now might be an okay idea. Just a simple "I just wanted to let you know. I had some people over like I've done every week for however many months, but the neighbor called the police. But you know the kind of person I am and know that I'm not a partier and I feel awful that this is happening." Giving the landlord her side of the story (and also trying to get him to her side by kissing up and being friendly) might be better than waiting for the neighbor to present the landlord with a list of police reports.

Wise sophie! (Did you know sophia was Greek for wise?)

It may interest you to know that she did (nearly) what you suggest. And she had a bit of luck, since the landlady answered the 'phone. His wife has taken over responsibility now for this stuff.

She explained the wine rack and the cop calls, told her about the back door being unlocked for weeks, and then the kicker. I don't even feel I can walk around! I may have to move!

The landlady (sympathetic to the situation of a lone woman, as Vermilion notes) was appalled, and expressed sympathy, and resolved to put a stop to it as soon as she could.

So the girl feels better, now, and can scan her options more calmly.

 

[Vermilion]

Wise sophie! (Did you know sophia was Greek for wise?)

It may interest you to know that she did (nearly) what you suggest. And she had a bit of luck, since the landlady answered the 'phone. His wife has taken over responsibility now for this stuff.

She explained the wine rack and the cop calls, told her about the back door being unlocked for weeks, and then the kicker. I don't even feel I can walk around! I may have to move!

The landlady (sympathetic to the situation of a lone woman, as Vermilion notes) was appalled, and expressed sympathy, and resolved to put a stop to it as soon as she could.

So the girl feels better, now, and can scan her options more calmly.

That's wonderful news! Fantastic, I do hope all this is resolved amicably. Let us know what happens, yes?
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[Jenny_Jackson]

I have been an apartment manager. I know that often tenants are just like little kids. These people fit that discription.

That said, I cannot speak for the State of Main, but generally the Landlord Tenant Act is similar in most states. Your property is your property, regardless of what her neighbor thinks. These people are potentially guilty of distruction of private property and (if any of the bottles were missing) theft.

To evict the neighbors is a miserable process. These are the steps:

1. The Landlord has to inform them of the discrepancy in writting. You then have to give the tenant the opportunity to correct the discrepancy (3-30 days).
2. Then the Landlord can file in court for an "FED", eviction. Again the tenant has time to correct the discrepancy (3-15 days).
3. The Landlord will have to appear in court.
(A) If the tenant shows up in court, he will be ordered to leave in 10-15 days.
(B) If the tenant does not show up, you will get a default judgement and an immediate move-out.
(C) If the tenant shows up in court and wants to fight the eviction, you then have another court date set for 1-3 months in the future.
4. Assuming the Landlord does get a forced move-out on the tenant, the tenant may not move. This means the Landlord will have to file a "Notice of Restitution". The court will direct an immediate forced move-out. That sounds good, but it actually takes about 2 weeks for the court to get around to it.
5. If the tenant still doesn't move out, then the Landlord will have to file a "Notice of Tresspass and Lockout" and the county sheriff shows up and throws them off the property.

This all assumes that all the notices and court filings are done correctly. If not, then you have to wait 6 months before you can start all over from the beginning.

The Landlord will have spent something like 2 to 5 months screwing around to get rid of this person, between $150 and $1500 in court and attorney fees and, meanwhile, the fight continues. For a small building, the cost and headache isn't worth it. The Landlord would just a soon your daughter(?) moved out and the problem goes away.

Just my experience with this.

 

[Weird Harold]

Takes too long to kick people out in the US. She should just move unless she's really into the place. If she's doing well then buy, otherwise a new rental.

MJL

It doesn't take all that long in most jurisdictions -- seven days notice is about the norm for most places, but it depends a lot on the specific wording of the lease and the reason(s) for eviction.

However, she wouldn't have to kick them out, just becoming their landlady should curb their excesses or give her indisputable grounds for eviction.

 

[cantdog]

I have been an apartment manager. <>
To evict the neighbors is a miserable process. These are the steps:

1. The Landlord has to inform them of the discrepancy in writting. You then have to give the tenant the opportunity to correct the discrepancy (3-30 days).
2. Then the Landlord can file in court for an "FED", eviction. Again the tenant has time to correct the discrepancy (3-15 days).
3. The Landlord will have to appear in court.
(A) If the tenant shows up in court, he will be ordered to leave in 10-15 days.
(B) If the tenant does not show up, you will get a default judgement and an immediate move-out.
(C) If the tenant shows up in court and wants to fight the eviction, you then have another court date set for 1-3 months in the future.
4. Assuming the Landlord does get a forced move-out on the tenant, the tenant may not move. This means the Landlord will have to file a "Notice of Restitution". The court will direct an immediate forced move-out. That sounds good, but it actually takes about 2 weeks for the court to get around to it.
5. If the tenant still doesn't move out, then the Landlord will have to file a "Notice of Tresspass and Lockout" and the county sheriff shows up and throws them off the property.

This all assumes that all the notices and court filings are done correctly. If not, then you have to wait 6 months before you can start all over from the beginning.

The Landlord will have spent something like 2 to 5 months screwing around to get rid of this person, between $150 and $1500 in court and attorney fees and, meanwhile, the fight continues. For a small building, the cost and headache isn't worth it. The Landlord would just a soon your daughter(?) moved out and the problem goes away.

Just my experience with this.

It's roughly similar here, last I knew. There's been some erosion due to landlord initiatives in the legislature, and I am no longer conversant with the 30 day and 90 day limits and their structure. But you are quite correct that it requires a persistent landlord with real motivation to accomplish it, and they usually do that while losing money, not just for legal fees but in lost rent.

Tenants facing forcible eviction frequently take it out on the structure, too, to cost the landlord further money. Pursuing the tenant for recovery of damages is also costly, and may still leave the landlord with a net loss.

Mobbed up landlords act more directly and still send someone to get the person to see the wisdom of leaving, but the freedom to act like that is still costly in payoffs. Becoming the landlord, as Weird and TwentyTen say, is no magic wand to solve all problems.

 

[SensualCealy]

I wonder if the same applies if you purchase the home? To my knowledge, you purchase the house and give them notice the day you take ownership. Since she already lives there, and can arrange a quiet sale with the landlord to make things easier on the dear lady thats looking after her elderly husband, Id keep it quiet from the other tenants and ask for them to be removed by police escort- find out the details on this, how much time does she have to give, etc. OR even call the police and tell them she is purchasing the home, she is worried they will vandilize the property when they find out they have to leave and ask them of her options.

Dont think it would take too much to convince the landlady to sell considering she is such a great girl.

Good luck! When all else fails, if they have lots of visitors, have her call the police after tracking the plate numbers and tell them she thinks they are selling out of their house! Police show up pretty darn quick around here if you do that- worked for my neighbours!
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[cantdog]

Cealy darling, how evil. They threw my stuff out of the cellar so they could manufacture crystal down there!! Laughin. Great stuff.