Web Site Building

[silent_wolf]

Hi All,

Now im slowly but surly getting to know a lot of people on here, and everyone i meet is fantastic, so i thought id try my luck and seek some advice...

I want to build my own Home Page, so i can tell people about me put pics of friends up etc etc

Now i tried the Yahoo 1 and well to say the least it was a disaster so im appealing to everyones good nature and to help but out plssssssssssss


All suggestions will be greatly taken

SW

 

[Wiggles]

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[silent_wolf]

I cant figure out how to edit it, im usually great at this stuff maybe i have my blonde head on???


Arghhhhhhhhh

 

[Wiggles]

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[silent_wolf]

Haha


Thanks anyway

 

[silent_wolf]

I think im getting the hang of it

 

[Orlanth]

Learn HTML.

 

[silent_wolf]

Any chance of expanding on that??

 

[Orlanth]

HTML = HyperText Markup Language The link will teach you basic HTML.

 

[unclej]

hey wolf, i'm building one myself and learning a little html code has helped me figure out what's going on with the program that i'm using. (front page, by the way). put HTML Goodies into your search engine and you'll get a link to the most helpful site that i've found. gives you good basic instructions and explanations of every step of the way. html is time consuming but i'm finding that i can combine html and front page and do things fairlly quickly.

good luck!

 

[Orlanth]

hey wolf, i'm building one myself and learning a little html code has helped me figure out what's going on with the program that i'm using. (front page, by the way). put HTML Goodies into your search engine and you'll get a link to the most helpful site that i've found. gives you good basic instructions and explanations of every step of the way. html is time consuming but i'm finding that i can combine html and front page and do things fairlly quickly.

good luck!

Front page is a HTML editor.

You work it like a document, and it writes the HTML coding for you. You can also edit the HTML coding with Front page.

i don't like Front page, so I use Notepad to write the HTML coding.

 

[bknight2602]

Tell us of your progress. I wanted to do a web page but haven't taken the time or energy to learn HTML or use any of the handy cook book stuff. Actually I need someone creative to help!

 

[Orlanth]

Tell us of your progress. I wanted to do a web page but haven't taken the time or energy to learn HTML or use any of the handy cook book stuff. Actually I need someone creative to help!

http://goldendrop.com/ <=== I did that with HTML.

 

[Packerlvr]

http://goldendrop.com/ <=== I did that with HTML.

Okay, you did that, how much training have you had?

I have had none, but would like to learn. Are you up for a challenge? I understand some of the basic principles of HTML, but I don't understand how/where to put the pictures that html references to pull into a site. Maybe you can explain, if so I will be grateful.

Thanks

 

[Packerlvr]

Oh, and BTW

NICE SITE! Easy to manuever, great graphics!

 

[Orlanth]

Okay, you did that, how much training have you had?

I have had none, but would like to learn. Are you up for a challenge? I understand some of the basic principles of HTML, but I don't understand how/where to put the pictures that html references to pull into a site. Maybe you can explain, if so I will be grateful.

Thanks

The only training I got was self-learning lol. I have a lot of free time on my hands, or did have.

to add a pic to a site, add in <img src="pic.jpg"> Make sure that pic.jpg is in the dir of the htm(l) file. of put in <img src="www.website.com/packervr/pic.jpg">

Of course pic.jpg can beany name, becauseit's the name ofthe picture. Ang www.website.com/packervr/ is whatever your domain addy is.

 

[Packerlvr]

Hmmm

Okay that all makes sense. Now how do I get pic.jpg uploaded to the in the directory of the htm(l) file?

Once I write the code, get the pict on the directory, how do I upload everything?

Like I said, I understand the basics, but not enough to actually build a site from code. I have used a program called CuteSiteBuilder and it has a built in ftp.

 

[The Heretic]

http://goldendrop.com/ <=== I did that with HTML.

Not bad, but you used a table for the layout when you should have used CSS. You obviously know CSS since you used it in the STYLE section, so just expand on that a bit. I know tables are easy to use and it is tempting to use them for layout, but they are the wrong construct and it screws the page up for people who are blind, etc.

 

[The Heretic]

Front page is a HTML editor.

You work it like a document, and it writes the HTML coding for you. You can also edit the HTML coding with Front page.

i don't like Front page, so I use Notepad to write the HTML coding.

Don't get people using Front Page; they'll be happy until they want to play with the HTML it generates, or they start using its extensions and must find a host that supports those extensions. They would be better off using some other editor/generator - if they have a late version of Word they might as well use that as Front Page - the HTML is just as bad. Dreamweaver is good, but expensive.

I write my HTML by hand - that is the only real way to learn HTML. Then once it is learned using something like DreamWeaver to automate some of the generation is a good idea.

Of course, if all you are ever going to do is put up a few pages, then a program that generates HTML for you is okay.

 

[The Heretic]

Re: Hmmm

Okay that all makes sense. Now how do I get pic.jpg uploaded to the in the directory of the htm(l) file?

Once I write the code, get the pict on the directory, how do I upload everything?

Like I said, I understand the basics, but not enough to actually build a site from code. I have used a program called CuteSiteBuilder and it has a built in ftp.

I generally put my images in a subdirectory off where the HTML is - the convention is to call the directory "images". You then use whatever method your host supports to upload the images - either FTP or their built in "control panel" thingy. In your HTML markup you must reference the images like this: "images/arrowbubble.gif".

I keep my HTML and all supporting files in a directory structure on my local machine that mirrors the structure on the host. I also make sure that I edit/create locally, and backup the files regularly; host have been known to lose or corrupt website files and it is your responsibility to have a backup.

 

[silent_wolf]

Thanks to everyone that has posted ive been away for the new year but plan to carry on working my site very soon i will sit and read the new posts soon next few hours with any luck.

Again thanks to 1 and all that have posted the help is very very appriciated

 

[three eyes open]

I've used NoteTab to build two websites now. I' thinking of doing some serious tweaking to the older one; I didn't know HTML as well then as I do now and I'm learning about installing scripts into the cgi-bin. Once I get that down, I can ditch that ad-choked Bravenet photo album and guestbook.

-3eyes

 

[Orlanth]

Don't get people using Front Page; they'll be happy until they want to play with the HTML it generates, or they start using its extensions and must find a host that supports those extensions. They would be better off using some other editor/generator - if they have a late version of Word they might as well use that as Front Page - the HTML is just as bad. Dreamweaver is good, but expensive.

I write my HTML by hand - that is the only real way to learn HTML. Then once it is learned using something like DreamWeaver to automate some of the generation is a good idea.

Of course, if all you are ever going to do is put up a few pages, then a program that generates HTML for you is okay.

Did you only read only a bit, or all of what I said?

If you read all, then you would have read where I do not use any HTML editor, and use Notepad to write outthe code.

It would have also be clear that I was disscourgaging the use of Front page.

Please read allof what I say, if you want to comment on what I say.

 

[Orlanth]

Not bad, but you used a table for the layout when you should have used CSS. You obviously know CSS since you used it in the STYLE section, so just expand on that a bit. I know tables are easy to use and it is tempting to use them for layout, but they are the wrong construct and it screws the page up for people who are blind, etc.

I'm 65%blind, and I have no problem with it.

I use what I use, l like it... You can like it, or you don'tlike it... Justdon't give me crap.

 

[The Heretic]

Did you only read only a bit, or all of what I said?

I read all of what you wrote.

If you read all, then you would have read where I do not use any HTML editor, and use Notepad to write outthe code.

Agreed.

It would have also be clear that I was disscourgaging the use of Front page.

No - not necessarily. You stated that you didn't like Front Page, and that was all that you stated; you did not discourage the use of Front Page unless you feel that just because you didn't use FP that everybody else should be discouraged from using FP. I use Visual SlickEdit and don't like Emacs, but that doesn't mean I would discourage other people from using Emacs if they wished. I would discourage most people from using Front Page though.

Furthermore, you gave no reason as to why a person shouldn't use FP, nor any argument to that end. Again, I don't consider a simple statement as to what I do or don't as a recommendation for or argument against what other people should or shouldn't do.

Please read allof what I say, if you want to comment on what I say.

Please write clearly and expressively if you want people to understand what you have to say - especially if you are making recommendations beyond comments about what you do - don't assume that people will adopt what you do just because you do it.