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There's been uproar in the UK recently over the number of teenagers who carry weapons on the street, particularly knives. And it got me wondering - how many of us carry weapons of some sort with us when we're out and about?

I live in rural Wales, where things are pretty safe. But I do a lot of walking around (often on my own) at night, and for that reason I carry around a barely legal (it's licensed for use on aggressive animals) type of mace. No longterm damage caused by it, but one high power burst of spray will make sure it's a while before any would-be attacker can open his eyes again without screaming.

At the end of the day, it is a weapon, but yet I don't feel remotely bad about keeping it in my pocket. As a single woman it gives me the freedom to go wherever I want whenever I want

What about you?
 
I carry no weapons now other than my keys.

But in the past I have carried a gun and pepper spray.

I still am licensed to carry a consealed weapon. (sp)
 
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Only weapon I carry is the one between my ears. The most dangerous weapon any human being has.
 
I carry no weapons now other than my keys.

I don't have them to be used as a weapon. I have them as my keys. But of course I always have one of them ready to be used for jabbing when I deem it necessary. I would have to be pretty precise for a jab to the eyes or neck, as a strike against bone wouldn't do enough damage to suit me, but I'm sure if I did hit bone they wouldn't enjoy it too much :D
 
Let's distinguish between deadly and non-deadly weapons. Zade, darling, aside from your deadly wit the self-defense tools are of the latter variety.

I have considered getting a concealed pistol permit just so I could carry one in my glove compartment. No, GGs, not to vent my rage at the occasional rude driver or after a minor fender bender, but just for general prudence, because you never know what kind of f'ing maniacs and predators are lurking out there, and the only thing I'd hate to do more than shoot someone is have someone do something to me for which they should be shot. But I'd have to undergo an intrusive background check and take a pain-in-butt training course so I've never bothered.
 
I have one of these on my keyring. Does that count? :D

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An unarmed 100 pound woman has very little chance against a determined 200 pound male attacker.

A 100 pound woman who knows exactly what to do with a knife and is willing to do it, has a good chance against a determined 200 pound male attacker. If you are one of the women who knows exactly what to do, please explain to me, in detail what you would do [and skip the boring lies about your weight.]

A 100 pound woman who vaguely knows what to do with a handgun and is willing to do it, has a very good chance against a determined 200 pound male attacker. Tell me if you like. [Again, skip the boring lies about your weight.]
 
Only weapon I carry with me when I go out is my car. Ever wonder what two and half tons looks like coming at you at a faster then walking speed? People tend to get out of your way.

If I think I might need some protection I bring my pal along with me...

eighty-five pounds of Rottweiler who loves me dearly.

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There's been uproar in the UK recently over the number of teenagers who carry weapons on the street, particularly knives. And it got me wondering - how many of us carry weapons of some sort with us when we're out and about?

I live in rural Wales, where things are pretty safe. But I do a lot of walking around (often on my own) at night, and for that reason I carry around a barely legal (it's licensed for use on aggressive animals) type of mace. No longterm damage caused by it, but one high power burst of spray will make sure it's a while before any would-be attacker can open his eyes again without screaming.

At the end of the day, it is a weapon, but yet I don't feel remotely bad about keeping it in my pocket. As a single woman it gives me the freedom to go wherever I want whenever I want

What about you?
That very weapon was confiscated at the Canadian border. My daughter was carrying a spray thing, smaller than a lipstick, on her key chain. The border guard explained that a Canadian was a disarmed American, with health care.

I just carry tools.
 
The only weapon I know how to handle is me. I'm heavier than most, and I know how to use it to my advantage in a fight. I'm also a bigger coward than most, and I know how to use that to my advantage to avoid fights.

And I can't really leave me at home when I go out, now can I?
 
Nope, I don't carry anything. Of course, I'm a very big guy, so most people wouldn't think or bother to mess with me.

Hoodlums cross to the other side of the street when they see me coming. :catroar:

And not to brag or anything, but I can't put my hands in my pockets, because I don't have a license to conceal deadly weapons. :D
 
I'm a Brit and dont carry a weapon. Statistically you are MORE at risk with , than without a weapon. The Bad Guys rarely challemge you to a fair fight, and if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you are likely to be incapacitated before you can reach for "our friend".

If you do carry a knife and get it out, exactly how good are you at knife fighting? And what happens if you get disarmed.

I lived in the US for four years and was amazed at the gun culture there.Again, the best way to fall victim to gun crime in the States is - to own a gun! 9 times out of ten in a confrontation with a gunman HE has the jump on you, and your chances of getting to your gun are poor. If it is a "fair fight" do you know how difficult it is to hit a moving target when you are yourself frightened for your life? Also "hits" with handguns are rarely "Incapacitating" so you then have a very angry, hurt, and armed hoodlum to deal with - not good.

The rhetoric and reality of an "armed" citizenship are very different.
 
I'm a Brit and dont carry a weapon. Statistically you are MORE at risk with , than without a weapon. The Bad Guys rarely challemge you to a fair fight, and if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you are likely to be incapacitated before you can reach for "our friend".

If you do carry a knife and get it out, exactly how good are you at knife fighting? And what happens if you get disarmed.

I lived in the US for four years and was amazed at the gun culture there.Again, the best way to fall victim to gun crime in the States is - to own a gun! 9 times out of ten in a confrontation with a gunman HE has the jump on you, and your chances of getting to your gun are poor. If it is a "fair fight" do you know how difficult it is to hit a moving target when you are yourself frightened for your life? Also "hits" with handguns are rarely "Incapacitating" so you then have a very angry, hurt, and armed hoodlum to deal with - not good.

The rhetoric and reality of an "armed" citizenship are very different.


Oddly, as an American, I tend to agree with your viewpoint.

Recently my sister tried to convince me to carry a gun when I'm camping. My first thought was something like, "Why? It would only give me a false sense of security." It seems to me if I had a gun, I'd think I was safe and I wouldn't think of alternatives out of a sticky situation; I'd think of the gun as the answer, and I don't really agree with that.

I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule, but it seems to me if someone wants to do me harm, they are going to do with or without my help or permission. The smartest thing would be to not put myself in the sticky situation in the first place.
 
Poison darts and a bull whip.

Also, I'm so loaded with deadly drug residues that anyone who takes a bite of me is dead meat.
 
Oddly, as an American, I tend to agree with your viewpoint.

Recently my sister tried to convince me to carry a gun when I'm camping. My first thought was something like, "Why? It would only give me a false sense of security." It seems to me if I had a gun, I'd think I was safe and I wouldn't think of alternatives out of a sticky situation; I'd think of the gun as the answer, and I don't really agree with that.

I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule, but it seems to me if someone wants to do me harm, they are going to do with or without my help or permission. The smartest thing would be to not put myself in the sticky situation in the first place.
This made me think of an book by Robert A. Heinlein, Tunnel In The Sky.

The main character was taking an 'Alien World Survival' course. The graduating exercise is that you would be teleported to another planet and you had to survive for ten days.

The character asked his teacher what weapons should he take. The instructors advice was 'knife only'. Because carrying a gun people tended to think they were invincible. And that meant you were likely to pick a fight with something that isn't impressed by guns.

Knowing how vulnerable you are makes you careful.
 
I'm a Brit and dont carry a weapon. Statistically you are MORE at risk with , than without a weapon. The Bad Guys rarely challemge you to a fair fight, and if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you are likely to be incapacitated before you can reach for "our friend".

If you do carry a knife and get it out, exactly how good are you at knife fighting? And what happens if you get disarmed.

I lived in the US for four years and was amazed at the gun culture there.Again, the best way to fall victim to gun crime in the States is - to own a gun! 9 times out of ten in a confrontation with a gunman HE has the jump on you, and your chances of getting to your gun are poor. If it is a "fair fight" do you know how difficult it is to hit a moving target when you are yourself frightened for your life? Also "hits" with handguns are rarely "Incapacitating" so you then have a very angry, hurt, and armed hoodlum to deal with - not good.

The rhetoric and reality of an "armed" citizenship are very different.
Truer word was never spoken. Said nice and clear, too. Too bad none of the cowboys will hear it.
 
Well I was counting the weapons I carry on a daily basis and figured out that I care, 7 knieves of different length and size. I also carry a hand gun, with my consealed lisn in 3 different states. I don't carry mace, becuase it doesn't work on any one that has been exposed to military type mace. Plus it can be turned on you so easy. I am also trained in martial arts. If I am around home I have two rifles near me at all times. So if I included every weapon I can use, I carry close to 20 different weapons on my person at a given time.
 
The rhetoric and reality of an "armed" citizenship are very different.

Very true.

I don't think there's anything wrong in itself to carry a weapon. It is, when push comes to shove, one more option to defend oneself with. The problem with it is the false sense of security that it tends to bring. "If I get attacked, I'll just whip out my blade/shooter/nunchucks, and everything will be fine."

I often hear stuff like "Oh, but I know how to use my gun, I go to the range every saturday and squeeze out a couple." Sure you know. On a range. In a fear-free situation. The only way to know if you're good at handling a weapon, whichever it is, is if you're forced to use it.

Unless you have the ability to keep your head on straight in a life-or-death crisis situation, you could be carrying gherkin blades, kalashnikovs, thermo-nuclear missiles and vials of small-pox, and you'll still lose.
 
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